Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

[coogles]

I’ll stay in my lane with corvettes and BRZs.

I enjoyed my 240sx more than the C5.5. It wasn't fast, but we know what speed offers on public roads!

5/7 would BRZ/GR86

I need to get mine out more, and it needs an exhaust. But it's a good time, would recommend.

[golftdibrad1]

I enjoyed my 240sx more than the C5.5. It wasn't fast, but we know what speed offers on public roads!

5/7 would BRZ/GR86

I need to get mine out more, and it needs an exhaust. But it's a good time, would recommend.

mIaTaS ArE tOo SlOw yet erreyone creamin themsleves over a 230hp toyoda.

[coogles]

I need to get mine out more, and it needs an exhaust. But it's a good time, would recommend.

mIaTaS ArE tOo SlOw yet erreyone creamin themsleves over a 230hp toyoda.

Strawman much? Who said Miatas are too slow? The '86 is slow too.

[razr390]

I have been thinking for a while that particularly the four cylinder versions will depreciate in a more traditional way, hopefully you're right on that. I'd happily buy a poverty Boxster/Cayman four cylinder car for a lower price, if it's not the best engine ever made in the thing. That would be nice but I doubt I'll ever be able to have one at the rate things are going.

diamonds have shit resale. Y'all may remember I got engaged years ago in the .com days... I bought a ring and literally six months later it was worth one fourth what I paid. I tried to sell it in several avenues and it was worthless. Fortunately Blue Nile bought it back for like 75%... so I used them again when I came around to the real round. I guess they do maintain that 25% value for eternity after the initial dump though.

I think the Porsche thing will all fall apart soon enough. The whole point of a sports car is to have a fun, great sounding and unique motor… nothing can be said in that regard for the p cars unless you’re N/A and rev to the moon. Imo they are some of the most overpriced vehicles currently for sale next to Teslas and Rav4CRIME editions.

For ex you can get a great looking and sounding C8 for 1/2 of what a 911 will run … and I frankly think it’ll be a better “investment” long term.

This is where you are wrong. Porsche has acquired a client base with the same loyalty as Ferrari. Add in special editions and exclusive manufacture customization… this isn’t a house of cards anymore.

Ask Fled. Most of the people buying the 911’s especially toward the top of the price range are fiercely brand loyal and will hold onto their cars until they upgrade and when they do they sell it to the dealer who keeps the price inflated for resale.

[golftdibrad1]

mIaTaS ArE tOo SlOw yet erreyone creamin themsleves over a 230hp toyoda.

Strawman much? Who said Miatas are too slow? The '86 is slow too.

[Johnny_P]

I think the Porsche thing will all fall apart soon enough. The whole point of a sports car is to have a fun, great sounding and unique motor… nothing can be said in that regard for the p cars unless you’re N/A and rev to the moon. Imo they are some of the most overpriced vehicles currently for sale next to Teslas and Rav4CRIME editions.

For ex you can get a great looking and sounding C8 for 1/2 of what a 911 will run … and I frankly think it’ll be a better “investment” long term.

This is where you are wrong. Porsche has acquired a client base with the same loyalty as Ferrari. Add in special editions and exclusive manufacture customization… this isn’t a house of cards anymore.

Ask Fled. Most of the people buying the 911’s especially toward the top of the price range are fiercely brand loyal and will hold onto their cars until they upgrade and when they do they sell it to the dealer who keeps the price inflated for resale.

They have to be brand loyal. Otherwise they won’t get an invitation to buy a rare model like a GT3RS or whatever.

[razr390]

This is where you are wrong. Porsche has acquired a client base with the same loyalty as Ferrari. Add in special editions and exclusive manufacture customization… this isn’t a house of cards anymore.

Ask Fled. Most of the people buying the 911’s especially toward the top of the price range are fiercely brand loyal and will hold onto their cars until they upgrade and when they do they sell it to the dealer who keeps the price inflated for resale.

They have to be brand loyal. Otherwise they won’t get an invitation to buy a rare model like a GT3RS or whatever.

Exactly. That plus the sales model that Porsche has established means they’re going to be loyal. This ain’t no house of cards.

[max225]

I think the Porsche thing will all fall apart soon enough. The whole point of a sports car is to have a fun, great sounding and unique motor… nothing can be said in that regard for the p cars unless you’re N/A and rev to the moon. Imo they are some of the most overpriced vehicles currently for sale next to Teslas and Rav4CRIME editions.

For ex you can get a great looking and sounding C8 for 1/2 of what a 911 will run … and I frankly think it’ll be a better “investment” long term.

This is where you are wrong. Porsche has acquired a client base with the same loyalty as Ferrari. Add in special editions and exclusive manufacture customization… this isn’t a house of cards anymore.

Ask Fled. Most of the people buying the 911’s especially toward the top of the price range are fiercely brand loyal and will hold onto their cars until they upgrade and when they do they sell it to the dealer who keeps the price inflated for resale.

Time will tell… paying over msrp on a used base 911 is lunacy and it won’t last. I specifically mentioned N/A vehicles in my post as I do consider them to be investment grade future classics.

[D Griff]

I’ll stay in my lane with corvettes and BRZs.

Brz is what ? 3 months away now ? Seems close

Yep, Still slated for December delivery at the moment.

[D Griff]

I need to get mine out more, and it needs an exhaust. But it's a good time, would recommend.

mIaTaS ArE tOo SlOw yet erreyone creamin themsleves over a 230hp toyoda.

I just said that Miatas (NAs) are old and old cars involve a certain level of pain in the ass. You just spent six weekends installing a Kia engine after all. I also am too tall really, which is sad.

They are slow AF though, a BRZ/86 has 1.3X the powah and does 0-60 in four seconds or so less, that is a big difference.

[Desertbreh]

I’ll stay in my lane with corvettes and BRZs.

I enjoyed my 240sx more than the C5.5. It wasn't fast, but we know what speed offers on public roads!

5/7 would BRZ/GR86

A Corvette makes plenty of sense in CA, USA. Not so much in Polar Bear CA.

[coogles]

Brz is what ? 3 months away now ? Seems close

Yep, Still slated for December delivery at the moment.

#BRZBOIZ

[Tar]

I enjoyed my 240sx more than the C5.5. It wasn't fast, but we know what speed offers on public roads!

5/7 would BRZ/GR86

A Corvette makes plenty of sense in CA, USA. Not so much in Polar Bear CA.

Are there no speed traps in CA, USA? I'd love a C7, but there's a 20k upcharge for an extra 200HP that doesn't get utilized without the threat of losing your license and committing a CRIME!

I'm most intrigued by small displacement mid-engined things lately, hoping a newer version of the classic MR2 comes back. C8 is cool as shit too, but I feel like they are missing the mark with an auto only transmission.... And the price is obviously the main sticking point.

[Desertbreh]

A Corvette makes plenty of sense in CA, USA. Not so much in Polar Bear CA.

Are there no speed traps in CA, USA? I'd love a C7, but there's a 20k upcharge for an extra 200HP that doesn't get utilized without the threat of losing your license and committing a CRIME!

I'm most intrigued by small displacement mid-engined things lately, hoping a newer version of the classic MR2 comes back. C8 is cool as shit too, but I feel like they are missing the mark with an auto only transmission.... And the price is obviously the main sticking point.

Not in my area and interstate travel is a 90mph thing with a RD.

[max225]

A Corvette makes plenty of sense in CA, USA. Not so much in Polar Bear CA.

Are there no speed traps in CA, USA? I'd love a C7, but there's a 20k upcharge for an extra 200HP that doesn't get utilized without the threat of losing your license and committing a CRIME!

I'm most intrigued by small displacement mid-engined things lately, hoping a newer version of the classic MR2 comes back. C8 is cool as shit too, but I feel like they are missing the mark with an auto only transmission.... And the price is obviously the main sticking point.

They are kind of coming back as of late. But In general left lane is 85-100 on the regular. I am consistently tailgated when going 85… so I move over. Yes 85 is considered slow. The weird and annoying part is you have people going 50 in the middle and left lanes on the regular also… so you have this giant divergence of speed in a small space

[D Griff]

Are there no speed traps in CA, USA? I'd love a C7, but there's a 20k upcharge for an extra 200HP that doesn't get utilized without the threat of losing your license and committing a CRIME!

I'm most intrigued by small displacement mid-engined things lately, hoping a newer version of the classic MR2 comes back. C8 is cool as shit too, but I feel like they are missing the mark with an auto only transmission.... And the price is obviously the main sticking point.

They are kind of coming back as of late. But In general left lane is 85-100 on the regular. I am consistently tailgated when going 85… so I move over. Yes 85 is considered slow. The weird and annoying part is you have people going 50 in the middle and left lanes on the regular also… so you have this giant divergence of speed in a small space

I wish people in this country got how lanes work…

[max225]

They are kind of coming back as of late. But In general left lane is 85-100 on the regular. I am consistently tailgated when going 85… so I move over. Yes 85 is considered slow. The weird and annoying part is you have people going 50 in the middle and left lanes on the regular also… so you have this giant divergence of speed in a small space

I wish people in this country got how lanes work…

I wish people knew how to drive and adhered to speed limits … it’s over or under by 30 with no inbetween

[CaleDeRoo]

Is it the place in VA that imports a bunch of JDM stuff? I've heard they're sketchy but they have epic inventory.

It is in Richmond. The fuel pump went out of his way home, but they came and got the car, paid for his flight, and and delivering the car to his house repaired for the trouble.

I think it's a '93/94








I hate cellphone wide angle lenses. The proportions of this car in person are not as goofy

My friend has this thing on the Dyno for over the weekend. It put down 208hp to the wheels. For reference my friend's Magnum SRT8 put down 330hp on the same Dyno same day.

[D Griff]

It is in Richmond. The fuel pump went out of his way home, but they came and got the car, paid for his flight, and and delivering the car to his house repaired for the trouble.

I think it's a '93/94








I hate cellphone wide angle lenses. The proportions of this car in person are not as goofy

My friend has this thing on the Dyno for over the weekend. It put down 208hp to the wheels. For reference my friend's Magnum SRT8 put down 330hp on the same Dyno same day.

at all at 100 whp/1k pounds of car or so, pretty similar to a C5

[CaleDeRoo]

My friend has this thing on the Dyno for over the weekend. It put down 208hp to the wheels. For reference my friend's Magnum SRT8 put down 330hp on the same Dyno same day.

at all at 100 whp/1k pounds of car or so, pretty similar to a C5

Yeah I'd peg it right around 10lbs/HP since I think that weight might be slightly optimistic, but that thing must cover ground quick AF on a back road.

[MexicanYarisTK]

Brz is what ? 3 months away now ? Seems close

Yep, Still slated for December delivery at the moment.

and f30 is bye bye?

[MexicanYarisTK]

After and I will move in together the next summer, im strongly considering trading my accord for a supra

[Desertbreh]

After and I will move in together the next summer, im strongly considering trading my accord for a supra

What does one have to do with other? Newsflash
Attaturk: Women destroy freedom. I would get the dickmobile PRIOR to shacking

[max225]

After and I will move in together the next summer, im strongly considering trading my accord for a supra

What does one have to do with other? Newsflash
Attaturk: Women destroy freedom. I would get the dickmobile PRIOR to shacking

Yep. Ain’t nobody will duck into a Supra and get their head bobbed every stop light.

[Gberg2119]

GR Rolla reviews out now. Of course it's good. Can't wait to see the markups.