Car Talk 1: Passengers matter

[max225]

https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-volkswage ... 1788803175

New 18 GTi data

Are we getting this in 2020?

Otherwise no care.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-volkswage ... 1788803175

New 18 GTi data

Are we getting this in 2020?

Otherwise no care.

Article claims they're coming as MY18 models here.

[max225]

Are we getting this in 2020?

Otherwise no care.

Article claims they're coming as MY18 models here.

I see, perhaps that means I should wait even longer

But the GTI gets some notable improvements. Power is up from 210 HP to 227 HP, and the Performance Package goes from 230 HP to 245 HP. That’s pretty excellent.

However... the current gen is horribly under-rated. There is no way it is at 227hp, that thing felt like a solid 270/280.
So I wonder if they are actually "upping" the power or just moving the #s around.

[max225]

Looks like my ass dyno is pretty accurate

http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-st-v ... grill.html

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Looks like my ass dyno is pretty accurate

http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-st-v ... grill.html

Dang, those stock WHP #'s are

[max225]

Looks like my ass dyno is pretty accurate

http://www.focusst.org/forum/focus-st-v ... grill.html

Dang, those stock WHP #'s are

It felt more powerful than a WRX which is advertised at 270hp, it is impossible to explain that gap

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Dang, those stock WHP #'s are

It felt more powerful than a WRX which is advertised at 270hp, it is impossible to explain that gap

I want to go drive a MK7 GTI. Still haven't.

[max225]

It felt more powerful than a WRX which is advertised at 270hp, it is impossible to explain that gap

I want to go drive a MK7 GTI. Still haven't.

Very different experience from a Mk6. Think 30% extra power, and 30% extra refinement, while in the same exact package.
One thing I didn't like is that I couldn't really tell the car had an LSD, it still spun the wheels a fair amount, although perhaps both were spinning.
Also the handling is comparable to my TDI, I can't say I was blown away, maybe a slight bit better.

The mk6 GTI felt pretty much the same as my TDI when it came in daily driving, the MK7 has more low end than my fucking diesel. It is nuts, and it pulls hard until 7k rpm.

It is a VERY VERY VERY good all arounder.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I want to go drive a MK7 GTI. Still haven't.

Very different experience from a Mk6. Think 30% extra power, and 30% extra refinement, while in the same exact package.
The mk6 GTI felt pretty much the same as my TDI when it came in daily driving, the MK7 has more low end than my fucking diesel. It is nuts, and it pulls hard until 7k rpm.

It is a VERY VERY VERY good all arounder.

Sounds almost like my Stage 1 MK6.

[max225]

Very different experience from a Mk6. Think 30% extra power, and 30% extra refinement, while in the same exact package.
The mk6 GTI felt pretty much the same as my TDI when it came in daily driving, the MK7 has more low end than my fucking diesel. It is nuts, and it pulls hard until 7k rpm.

It is a VERY VERY VERY good all arounder.

Sounds almost like my Stage 1 MK6.

Also I think they went full retard on the Sounductor?! AZN mk2 commented and said "I really like the engine sound", it "sounds sporty" and honestly it wasn't bad. The car wasn't quiet ... fake noise be damned I'll take it.

[Desertbreh]

https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-volkswage ... 1788803175

New 18 GTi data

Yeah but I don't like the steering wheel.

[max225]

https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-volkswage ... 1788803175

New 18 GTi data

Yeah but I don't like the steering wheel.

Yep.. It is the one thing that is worse about the MK7 vs mk6

[Johnny_P]

Dang, those stock WHP #'s are

It felt more powerful than a WRX which is advertised at 270hp, it is impossible to explain that gap

Hmmmmmmmmm do they lease well?

[max225]

It felt more powerful than a WRX which is advertised at 270hp, it is impossible to explain that gap

Hmmmmmmmmm do they lease well?

Nope... unless you want poverty spec. Which frankly isn't all that bad.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I always went poverty spec with my GTIs. They were 5/7, each one.

[Johnny_P]

Hmmmmmmmmm do they lease well?

Nope... unless you want poverty spec. Which frankly isn't all that bad.

I hate no traction 1 wheel peels, so I'd probably opt for the Sport or PP one or whatever its called now.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Nope... unless you want poverty spec. Which frankly isn't all that bad.

I hate no traction 1 wheel peels, so I'd probably opt for the Sport or PP one or whatever its called now.

PP diff is electronically controlled, probably still result in the one wheel peel.

[Johnny_P]

http://www.northpennvw.com/VehicleDetai ... 2870187533

$25,700 not bad I guess. Includes HIDZ now. No sunroof either.

[Calvinball]

I want to go drive a MK7 GTI. Still haven't.

Very different experience from a Mk6. Think 30% extra power, and 30% extra refinement, while in the same exact package.
One thing I didn't like is that I couldn't really tell the car had an LSD, it still spun the wheels a fair amount, although perhaps both were spinning.
Also the handling is comparable to my TDI, I can't say I was blown away, maybe a slight bit better.

The mk6 GTI felt pretty much the same as my TDI when it came in daily driving, the MK7 has more low end than my fucking diesel. It is nuts, and it pulls hard until 7k rpm.

It is a VERY VERY VERY good all arounder.

LSD doesn't can't help much with straight line acceleration if the tires are lame, was it on stock failseasons?

[Calvinball]

It felt more powerful than a WRX which is advertised at 270hp, it is impossible to explain that gap

Anytime I hear anything like this with VW now I automatically assume it's because it's not in the reduced power mode they use to pass emissions and get certified on.

I'm sure I'm right, as well.

[Johnny_P]

Very different experience from a Mk6. Think 30% extra power, and 30% extra refinement, while in the same exact package.
One thing I didn't like is that I couldn't really tell the car had an LSD, it still spun the wheels a fair amount, although perhaps both were spinning.
Also the handling is comparable to my TDI, I can't say I was blown away, maybe a slight bit better.

The mk6 GTI felt pretty much the same as my TDI when it came in daily driving, the MK7 has more low end than my fucking diesel. It is nuts, and it pulls hard until 7k rpm.

It is a VERY VERY VERY good all arounder.

LSD doesn't can't help much with straight line acceleration if the tires are lame, was it on stock failseasons?

Speaking from experience?

Sorry

[Calvinball]

LSD doesn't can't help much with straight line acceleration if the tires are lame, was it on stock failseasons?

Speaking from experience?

Sorry

Oh absolutely.

The tires on my car are absolute shit. I get second gear slippage if I'm hittin it...with 175 tq. :dafuq:

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Speaking from experience?

Sorry

Oh absolutely.

The tires on my car are absolute shit. I get second gear slippage if I'm hittin it...with 175 tq. :dafuq:

I think my leaf blower has more torque.

[troyguitar]

Speaking from experience?

Sorry

Oh absolutely.

The tires on my car are absolute shit. I get second gear slippage if I'm hittin it...with 175 tq. :dafuq:

Vibetrix lights it up in 1st with 127 peak ft-lbs ol:

[Calvinball]

Oh absolutely.

The tires on my car are absolute shit. I get second gear slippage if I'm hittin it...with 175 tq. :dafuq:

I think my leaf blower has more torque.