Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

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Y’all forgot about the pizza cutter wheels?

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[max225]

Y’all forgot about the pizza cutter wheels?

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These fucking monsters

[CaleDeRoo]

Those Detroits? are way fucking better than the Swheelstikas

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These fucking monsters

Oh, Detroits. They were

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Those Detroits? are way fucking better than the Swheelstikas

[Desertbreh]

Y’all forgot about the pizza cutter wheels?

Those are better than the Beer Hall Putsch Ramz

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Late Entry

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Late Entry

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[Johnny_P]

Sounds like its still a pretty good all-around package to use short term. Curious to see actual depreciation on it, outside this bubble we appear to be in.

[Desertbreh]

Sounds like its still a pretty good all-around package to use short term. Curious to see actual depreciation on it, outside this bubble we appear to be in.

Honestly I had to look at it very SRS myself. 31 grand, massive versatility, a 105 mph 1/4 trap speed, a real manual, brand new? How bad could it be other than the Karl Donitz ramz?

[Johnny_P]

Sounds like its still a pretty good all-around package to use short term. Curious to see actual depreciation on it, outside this bubble we appear to be in.

Honestly I had to look at it very SRS myself. 31 grand, massive versatility, a 105 mph 1/4 trap speed, a real manual, brand new? How bad could it be other than the Karl Donitz ramz?

I mean this is the GTI’s arena though. A smaller ish car that is decent to drive, moderately fun, quick, and doesn’t feel like a pile of shit, at an affordable price.

If you’re looking for a performance car this isn’t it. But if you just want a decent DD that’s “fine” at everything this finds a good balance.

[Desertbreh]

Honestly I had to look at it very SRS myself. 31 grand, massive versatility, a 105 mph 1/4 trap speed, a real manual, brand new? How bad could it be other than the Karl Donitz ramz?

I mean this is the GTI’s arena though. A smaller ish car that is decent to drive, moderately fun, quick, and doesn’t feel like a pile of shit, at an affordable price.

If you’re looking for a performance car this isn’t it. But if you just want a decent DD that’s “fine” at everything this finds a good balance.

I dunno man. 13.5@105 is better than fine? And I am amazed to this day that my Mk6 swallowed whole a framed print that would not fit in my 2003 Tahoe. I guess I wil satisfy my curiosity and try one out.

[D Griff]

Y’all forgot about the pizza cutter wheels?

I thought the Detroits were dope. It's really all gone down hill from there though, and I don't think I even really love the Detroits anymore.

These MK8 ones are something I really couldn't do , would be willing to eat some money to not have to look at those for a year.

[D Griff]

I mean this is the GTI’s arena though. A smaller ish car that is decent to drive, moderately fun, quick, and doesn’t feel like a pile of shit, at an affordable price.

If you’re looking for a performance car this isn’t it. But if you just want a decent DD that’s “fine” at everything this finds a good balance.

I dunno man. 13.5@105 is better than fine? And I am amazed to this day that my Mk6 swallowed whole a framed print that would not fit in my 2003 Tahoe. I guess I wil satisfy my curiosity and try one out.

They are fast in a straight line. It seems like these new ones are also pretty dang fast in turns, they now have standard LSD, they seem to have performed quite well in track tests and shit.

The MK6 was sort of an understeery pig that felt great to drive to me when I was 22 but the more other stuff I drove, the more meh it became. They have also always been a tad numb as well, IMO, but most reports seem to indicate the MK8 drives better than ever so I will withhold judgment on that.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Y’all forgot about the pizza cutter wheels?

I thought the Detroits were dope. It's really all gone down hill from there though, and I don't think I even really love the Detroits anymore.

These MK8 ones are something I really couldn't do , would be willing to eat some money to not have to look at those for a year.

The Denvers aka poverty 17" Detroits were my favorite of all GTI wheels.

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The E-LSD in my MK7 was a huge improvement over the open diff in the MK6. That said, it still didn't feel like a real mechanical LSD. It was really smooth, which I think was the point, but it did not have that locked-up feeling of the mechanical diffs in the 8th and 9th gen Civic Sis I've driven. My understanding is it also has a limited ability to maintain a 50/50 split once you start tuning these cars. The clutches in there can only handle so much torque before they'll start overpowering the inside wheel. So, say a stock MK7 has 260 ft lb, maybe the stock LSD can handle 300 ft lb, but, over that, it won't be able to maintain that 50/50 split. Obviously it's still a huge improvement over an open diff, but it won't be as effective as a mechanical unit with increased output.

[D Griff]

The E-LSD in my MK7 was a huge improvement over the open diff in the MK6. That said, it still didn't feel like a real mechanical LSD. It was really smooth, which I think was the point, but it did not have that locked-up feeling of the mechanical diffs in the 8th and 9th gen Civic Sis I've driven. My understanding is it also has a limited ability to maintain a 50/50 split once you start tuning these cars. The clutches in there can only handle so much torque before they'll start overpowering the inside wheel. So, say a stock MK7 has 260 ft lb, maybe the stock LSD can handle 300 ft lb, but, over that, it won't be able to maintain that 50/50 split. Obviously it's still a huge improvement over an open diff, but it won't be as effective as a mechanical unit with increased output.

Interesting. I'd like to try it out sometime, still a pretty awesome thing to have/improvement over the open diff MK6 which loved going straight

The Sis I have driven were pretty amazing with the LSD, it's a neat feeling being pulled through a corner without understeer and one wheel peel.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

The E-LSD in my MK7 was a huge improvement over the open diff in the MK6. That said, it still didn't feel like a real mechanical LSD. It was really smooth, which I think was the point, but it did not have that locked-up feeling of the mechanical diffs in the 8th and 9th gen Civic Sis I've driven. My understanding is it also has a limited ability to maintain a 50/50 split once you start tuning these cars. The clutches in there can only handle so much torque before they'll start overpowering the inside wheel. So, say a stock MK7 has 260 ft lb, maybe the stock LSD can handle 300 ft lb, but, over that, it won't be able to maintain that 50/50 split. Obviously it's still a huge improvement over an open diff, but it won't be as effective as a mechanical unit with increased output.

Interesting. I'd like to try it out sometime, still a pretty awesome thing to have/improvement over the open diff MK6 which loved going straight

The Sis I have driven were pretty amazing with the LSD, it's a neat feeling being pulled through a corner without understeer and one wheel peel.

Yep, hard to beat a real mechanical LSD.

[Gberg2119]

Even the black wheel package on Mk8 is totally . I've seen people put black pretorias on and it's much better.

[max225]

Yea these wheels aren’t lookers either.

It’s funny the woman told me “what do you think of those wheels” when we were done with the test drive. So even she doesn’t like em.

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I thought the Detroits were dope. It's really all gone down hill from there though, and I don't think I even really love the Detroits anymore.

These MK8 ones are something I really couldn't do , would be willing to eat some money to not have to look at those for a year.

The Denvers aka poverty 17" Detroits were my favorite of all GTI wheels.

Loved mine.

[max225]

My fav were the trashcan wheels.

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My fav were the trashcan wheels.

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[D Griff]

My fav were the trashcan wheels.

I am trying to recall the name of these and find the trash can comparison memes

They were , I agree.

[Desertbreh]

My fav were the trashcan wheels.

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