Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:40 am
At this age, maintenance is worth more than miles IMO.
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Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:55 am
The thing is, either way you have to light an additional $5 K on fire for rod bearings, cooling system, fluids, bushings, etc.max225 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:13 amFor 5-8k extra you can have one with 1/3 the the farts is the point. Why light money on fire for someone else’s abused carCaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:06 am There's plenty of well kept E46s out there with 150-220k. I have no doubts with maintenance an e90 m3 can crest 200k with no issues if you keep up with it. If you want to Dan I say fuck it. If you put 5-8k and know the car is completely sorted what do the miles matter? The worn drivers seat would bug me but seats are out there for sale as well.
Say I bought that car or a similar one, dropped a couple of weekends and $5K into it. I'm $20K all in, and, IMO I would trust it more mechanically than say an 80K mile car without the $5K in maintenance done. It's also already high miles, so
about putting more on/the value. It will always be a $15K car or whatever. I also could take it on track and about the paintwork and such too much.I think many of y'all don't really understand what tracking a car really looks like. My C5 looked basically mint until I started tracking it and the paint is now pretty shitty. You will spin off track into gravel, get hit by flying tire chunks, etc. It is not something you do in a nice car that you're trying to keep BaT spec.
The truth is if I really want to keep doing track stuff, I already have a superior vehicle for it versus anything else being discussed. I am just a bit ready for a new experience.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:58 am
I hear you let me look for some others. It’s not like the 180k mile example is mint as far as maintenance goes. I have had more bmws than anyone else on this forum... (I am pretty sure). And let me tell youD Griff wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:55 amThe thing is, either way you have to light an additional $5 K on fire for rod bearings, cooling system, fluids, bushings, etc.
Say I bought that car or a similar one, dropped a couple of weekends and $5K into it. I'm $20K all in, and, IMO I would trust it more mechanically than say an 80K mile car without the $5K in maintenance done. It's also already high miles, so
I think many of y'all don't really understand what tracking a car really looks like. My C5 looked basically mint until I started tracking it and the paint is now pretty shitty. You will spin off track into gravel, get hit by flying tire chunks, etc. It is not something you do in a nice car that you're trying to keep BaT spec.
The truth is if I really want to keep doing track stuff, I already have a superior vehicle for it versus anything else being discussed. I am just a bit ready for a new experience.
These cars do not age like a C5. Which I have also had for a long time. Bmws get really really finicky with over 100k miles.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:04 am
You are likely right... it is probably not a great choice for me in general as I don't want to wrench every weekend. I don't mind spending one day every month or two, a weekend quarterly, etc. but there are other hobbies I enjoy.max225 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:58 amI hear you let me look for some others. It’s not like the 180k mile example is mint as far as maintenance goes. I have had more bmws than anyone else on this forum... (I am pretty sure). And let me tell youD Griff wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:55 am
The thing is, either way you have to light an additional $5 K on fire for rod bearings, cooling system, fluids, bushings, etc.
Say I bought that car or a similar one, dropped a couple of weekends and $5K into it. I'm $20K all in, and, IMO I would trust it more mechanically than say an 80K mile car without the $5K in maintenance done. It's also already high miles, so
I think many of y'all don't really understand what tracking a car really looks like. My C5 looked basically mint until I started tracking it and the paint is now pretty shitty. You will spin off track into gravel, get hit by flying tire chunks, etc. It is not something you do in a nice car that you're trying to keep BaT spec.
The truth is if I really want to keep doing track stuff, I already have a superior vehicle for it versus anything else being discussed. I am just a bit ready for a new experience.
These cars do not age like a C5. Which I have also had for a long time. Bmws get really really finicky with over 100k miles.
It is just a
car that I really like and does everything outside of the maintenance/reliability piece well.Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:14 am
Griff, if you wanted I can put you in touch with my buddy who preps cars for track days/racing. Mostly BMWs and Porsches, if you wanted any insight into what these cars really need. They’re the on-site shop for Watkins Glen IIRC too.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:04 amYou are likely right... it is probably not a great choice for me in general as I don't want to wrench every weekend. I don't mind spending one day every month or two, a weekend quarterly, etc. but there are other hobbies I enjoy.max225 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:58 am
I hear you let me look for some others. It’s not like the 180k mile example is mint as far as maintenance goes. I have had more bmws than anyone else on this forum... (I am pretty sure). And let me tell you
These cars do not age like a C5. Which I have also had for a long time. Bmws get really really finicky with over 100k miles.
It is just a
But that’s real world, hands on experience; so not really worth much.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:30 am
I'm just curious what they tend to do for maintenance (more than just accelerated routine items?) and what they've actually seen in terms of failures resulting from track activity. So much gets blown up on the internet, would be interesting to hear real feedback without feelings.Apex wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:14 amGriff, if you wanted I can put you in touch with my buddy who preps cars for track days/racing. Mostly BMWs and Porsches, if you wanted any insight into what these cars really need. They’re the on-site shop for Watkins Glen IIRC too.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:04 am
You are likely right... it is probably not a great choice for me in general as I don't want to wrench every weekend. I don't mind spending one day every month or two, a weekend quarterly, etc. but there are other hobbies I enjoy.
It is just a
But that’s real world, hands on experience; so not really worth much.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:45 am
LSSApex wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:14 amGriff, if you wanted I can put you in touch with my buddy who preps cars for track days/racing. Mostly BMWs and Porsches, if you wanted any insight into what these cars really need. They’re the on-site shop for Watkins Glen IIRC too.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:04 am
You are likely right... it is probably not a great choice for me in general as I don't want to wrench every weekend. I don't mind spending one day every month or two, a weekend quarterly, etc. but there are other hobbies I enjoy.
It is just a
But that’s real world, hands on experience; so not really worth much.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:53 am
CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:45 amLSSApex wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:14 am
Griff, if you wanted I can put you in touch with my buddy who preps cars for track days/racing. Mostly BMWs and Porsches, if you wanted any insight into what these cars really need. They’re the on-site shop for Watkins Glen IIRC too.
But that’s real world, hands on experience; so not really worth much.
He gets to work on some really cool machinery.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:00 pm
All those mods ... and a sunroofCaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:45 amLSSApex wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:14 am
Griff, if you wanted I can put you in touch with my buddy who preps cars for track days/racing. Mostly BMWs and Porsches, if you wanted any insight into what these cars really need. They’re the on-site shop for Watkins Glen IIRC too.
But that’s real world, hands on experience; so not really worth much.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:03 pm
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:04 pm
That was in 2017. The car wasn't specced from new by the owner 
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:09 pm
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:09 pm
I would definitely be interested in someApex wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:14 amGriff, if you wanted I can put you in touch with my buddy who preps cars for track days/racing. Mostly BMWs and Porsches, if you wanted any insight into what these cars really need. They’re the on-site shop for Watkins Glen IIRC too.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:04 am
You are likely right... it is probably not a great choice for me in general as I don't want to wrench every weekend. I don't mind spending one day every month or two, a weekend quarterly, etc. but there are other hobbies I enjoy.
It is just a
But that’s real world, hands on experience; so not really worth much.
feedback from real race people on both makes, honestly. I still am fairly interested in both a Boxster/Cayman and a few BMWs.Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:02 pm
It was last time I looked, but it's been a while.
Dealers order cars, not people. Sunroofs are good for residuals and customers tend to like them a lot.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:10 pm
I dunno... people HATE on them on the bimmerforums. It's like not getting the chrono package on the Poorschas
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:13 pm
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:14 pm
Just sharing... I specifically skipped on the sunroof equipped ones when I was looking for my F80. It seemed like more than 50% had the Carboner roof.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:15 pm
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:47 pm
I view sunroofs like Targas or convertibles.........they are ok at low speeds on a cloudy day. Otherwise:
1. Massive wind noise interrupts the toons, phone, or whatever I have going.
2. Sun destroys all visibility as it comes in on the wrong side of my sunglasses. This is the worst problem.
3. Entry point for bugs, road debris, detritus.
4. My skin is super northern European at this point, I burn like a motherf$#er
And that's not even factoring in the possibility of an Oktoberfest roof like Johnny's
That said I have two sunroofs and one targa top because most of the world feels I am 100%
1. Massive wind noise interrupts the toons, phone, or whatever I have going.
2. Sun destroys all visibility as it comes in on the wrong side of my sunglasses. This is the worst problem.
3. Entry point for bugs, road debris, detritus.
4. My skin is super northern European at this point, I burn like a motherf$#er
And that's not even factoring in the possibility of an Oktoberfest roof like Johnny's
That said I have two sunroofs and one targa top because most of the world feels I am 100%
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:53 pm
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showt ... 14&page=28Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:47 pm I view sunroofs like Targas or convertibles.........they are ok at low speeds on a cloudy day. Otherwise:
1. Massive wind noise interrupts the toons, phone, or whatever I have going.
2. Sun destroys all visibility as it comes in on the wrong side of my sunglasses. This is the worst problem.
3. Entry point for bugs, road debris, detritus.
4. My skin is super northern European at this point, I burn like a motherf$#er
And that's not even factoring in the possibility of an Oktoberfest roof like Johnny's
That said I have two sunroofs and one targa top because most of the world feels I am 100%
1611 forum bros agree, 422 disagree.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:09 pm
I enjoy an open roof experience, I love popping my targa off, going topless in the 
, or driving a true roadster. I wear sunscreen 
Sunroof is kind of meh to me, I would take it or leave it depending on car. They rob headroom and as a relatively tall guy with a really long torso, that is a no from me, dog. My head legit was in the headliner in my wife's old Fusion with the seat all the way down... it was uncomfortable and made me hate driving that car. I've never had a sunroof in my own car, but I've had two 'verts and a targa. I think I could live with it in a BMW, ze Germans accel at head room.
, or driving a true roadster. I wear sunscreen Sunroof is kind of meh to me, I would take it or leave it depending on car. They rob headroom and as a relatively tall guy with a really long torso, that is a no from me, dog. My head legit was in the headliner in my wife's old Fusion with the seat all the way down... it was uncomfortable and made me hate driving that car. I've never had a sunroof in my own car, but I've had two 'verts and a targa. I think I could live with it in a BMW, ze Germans accel at head room.
Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:05 am
D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:09 pm I enjoy an open roof experience, I love popping my targa off, going topless in the
Sunroof is kind of meh to me, I would take it or leave it depending on car. They rob headroom and as a relatively tall guy with a really long torso, that is a no from me, dog. My head legit was in the headliner in my wife's old Fusion with the seat all the way down... it was uncomfortable and made me hate driving that car. I've never had a sunroof in my own car, but I've had two 'verts and a targa. I think I could live with it in a BMW, ze Germans accel at head room.
on all.Tire Kicking By Griff
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 4:51 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 6:33 pm
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Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 7:02 pm
I think the M2 would do what you'd buy that M3 for but better in nearly every way.