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Huckleberry wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:33 am

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:50 am

That’s a fairly obscure fact that doesn't need to be known by a saleshole. Knowing a gear ratio won’t sell the vehicle. They are trained to financially ruin you, not educate you on vehicle features

It's not obscure at all, especially when it comes to trucks. It isn't like I asked how many gallons of coolant the cooling system holds. Gear ratios greatly affect acceleration, fuel economy, and towing capacities. It is pertinent information for a truck.

Huckleberry wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:33 am It's not obscure at all, especially when it comes to trucks. It isn't like I asked how many gallons of coolant the cooling system holds. Gear ratios greatly affect acceleration, fuel economy, and towing capacities. It is pertinent information for a truck.

Melon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:41 am

Huckleberry wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:33 am It's not obscure at all, especially when it comes to trucks. It isn't like I asked how many gallons of coolant the cooling system holds. Gear ratios greatly affect acceleration, fuel economy, and towing capacities. It is pertinent information for a truck.

Any smart truck buyer will want a specific gear ratio.
I prefer a 3.55 or 3.73.
All GM offered in the Canyon was their fucking beloved 3.42. Which is fine.

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am

Melon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:41 am



Any smart truck buyer will want a specific gear ratio.
I prefer a 3.55 or 3.73.
All GM offered in the Canyon was their fucking beloved 3.42. Which is fine.

Doesn’t the transmission ratio matter as much as the final gear ?

You can have a 2:73 rear end and an 8 speed that does way better than a 3.45 and a 4 speed

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am

Melon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:41 am



Any smart truck buyer will want a specific gear ratio.
I prefer a 3.55 or 3.73.
All GM offered in the Canyon was their fucking beloved 3.42. Which is fine.

Doesn’t the transmission ratio matter as much as the final gear ?

You can have a 2:73 rear end and an 8 speed that does way better than a 3.45 and a 4 speed

Melon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:55 am

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am
Doesn’t the transmission ratio matter as much as the final gear ?

You can have a 2:73 rear end and an 8 speed that does way better than a 3.45 and a 4 speed

The transmission is usually a set variable and comes with whatever engine choice you have.

That being said companies gear them differently. IIRC the Tundra has 4.10 and 4.33 options, where domestic might only go up to 3.73

Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:57 am

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:50 am
Doesn’t the transmission ratio matter as much as the final gear ?

You can have a 2:73 rear end and an 8 speed that does way better than a 3.45 and a 4 speed

These days, more transmission gears with a GOOD auto somewhat reduces the importance of final drive gear. BUT it's something truck buyers are used to.

Great example is the JL/T Rubicons with the 4:1 t-case. With the 8-speed and it's short 1-3 gearing, the 4:1 low range is honestly too much. and 4-speed autos benefit, but that's not really standard condition anymore.

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:07 pm

Melon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:55 am

The transmission is usually a set variable and comes with whatever engine choice you have.

That being said companies gear them differently. IIRC the Tundra has 4.10 and 4.33 options, where domestic might only go up to 3.73

So.. this explains why the Tacoma is the most superior truck with the 4.30 rear gear ratio standard on the manual.

Melon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:31 pm

Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:57 am
These days, more transmission gears with a GOOD auto somewhat reduces the importance of final drive gear. BUT it's something truck buyers are used to.

Great example is the JL/T Rubicons with the 4:1 t-case. With the 8-speed and it's short 1-3 gearing, the 4:1 low range is honestly too much. and 4-speed autos benefit, but that's not really standard condition anymore.

It gives fine tuning for tow ratings as well.
Either choose something like a 3.11 for cruising, or 3.73 for towing.

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:50 am

Huckleberry wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:10 am

Yeah, the average person knows dick-all about the vehicle they are purchasing, just like the average salesman knows dick-all about the vehicle they are selling.

I remember when I was test driving a Taco, I asked the salesman what the rear gear ratio was and he replied with, "What's a rear gear ratio?" This led to me explaining how a differential works and never getting my question answered. I didn't like the truck enough to look it up after the fact.

That’s a fairly obscure fact that doesn't need to be known by a saleshole. Knowing a gear ratio won’t sell the vehicle. They are trained to financially ruin you, not educate you on vehicle features

Melon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:40 am

max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:02 am I am particularly by custom plates that spell out the name of the car

Fast M3
Blk m5
Prius Vee

POORVTT

[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:50 pm

MexicanYarisTK wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:50 pm

My GTI built in puebla has held up pretty good as far as "superior" interior, especially when some people were the fact that it looks like a brand new car on the inside, considering it is almost a 100k mile car.

Quality control is quality control. As long as it's a company value it shouldn't matter where it's made.

MexicanYarisTK wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:20 pm

[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:50 pm

Quality control is quality control. As long as it's a company value it shouldn't matter where it's made.

the robots don't even know that they're in a lesser developing country than the people cars fatherland. That being said, back in the mk6 days jetta's were always regarded within a more inferior quality which essentially puts mexico as the answer for that, but in reality they're roughly the same regardless.