OT XXX: COVID Off Topic

[Huckleberry]

To Walter Reed he goes.

[max225]

[Tar]

I have a $1000 bet with my wife about who will win the election. Winner spends it on whatever they want , I defaulted to when my wife said that there's no way he will win another election.

I actually have no idea how America is siding but as a Canadian I think we have overcome the free trade buffoonery and have little risk left with that administration. I don't like the guy personally and think he's a bully and has questionable ethics at minimum. I won't be surprised if he wins and am kind of anticipating it.

[Tar]

Second wave is here, about 2k peeps nation wide testing positive. Ontario sitting at over 700, testing is beyond capacity since they had tight school rules like any symptoms even a runny nose requires 14 day quarantine or a negative COVID result from authorized testing center. People with kids absolutely decimated testing capacity to try and adhere to the stupid long list of symptoms keeping their kids out of school. They are easing up on a few symptoms, and in doing so would save us personally from losing four days of work during my little one's first cold which we discussed last week.

In prep for the second wave we are restricting head counts in gyms and sit down restaurants in hot spot regions (Toronto/Peel/Ottawa). A few other recommendations are put forth, such as shrinking bubble groupings but they didn't word it as mandatory with exception to limiting indoor gatherings to no greater than 10 people and highly recommending that we keep to our own household bubbles.

We generally have two flu seasons, September and January which coincides with back to school timeframes, no surprise. They have models that show the case counts rocketing up 150% in two weeks if they don't make some changes during this beginning of the second wave.

Fingers crossed they can keep things moving along smoothly. Generally I'm pretty with how things are being managed on a Provincial level. The financial repercussions are

[09vdubgti]

I was reading Hospitals in NJ, well not all but the one by Rutgers is at capacity again.

I'm not gonna lie I myself have been lacking in precaution. Daily numbers starting to go back up.

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[ChrisoftheNorth]

I was reading Hospitals in NJ, well not all but the one by Rutgers is at capacity again.

I'm not gonna lie I myself have been lacking in precaution. Daily numbers starting to go back up.

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Seems inevitable with the changing of seasons. Around here, nobody seems to care anymore. Masks are still required/enforced when going indoors, but that's about it. Going to get interesting fast I'm sure.

[max225]

I was reading Hospitals in NJ, well not all but the one by Rutgers is at capacity again.

I'm not gonna lie I myself have been lacking in precaution. Daily numbers starting to go back up.

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Seems inevitable with the changing of seasons. Around here, nobody seems to care anymore. Masks are still required/enforced when going indoors, but that's about it. Going to get interesting fast I'm sure.

We're still in nearly full lockdown mode. I went to the gym for the first time in 7 months yesterday it was weird... it was only open at 25% capacity, everyone was masked up etc. It didn't really feel safe to be honest. But I am completely conditioned to the "new normal' out here.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Seems inevitable with the changing of seasons. Around here, nobody seems to care anymore. Masks are still required/enforced when going indoors, but that's about it. Going to get interesting fast I'm sure.

We're still in nearly full lockdown mode. I went to the gym for the first time in 7 months yesterday it was weird... it was only open at 25% capacity, everyone was masked up etc. It didn't really feel safe to be honest. But I am completely conditioned to the "new normal' out here.

Oh, gyms are barely open here, but I don't gym so whatever.

Restaurants are at reduced capacities, but dive bars don't seem to give a shit. Some places are taking it more seriously than others. Downtown on the weekends is solid people, no masks, minimal social distancing. It feels weird to be a community table with strangers again, but it's happening.

[max225]

Yea not really happening here. What’s a bar

[Desertbreh]

Yea not really happening here. What’s a bar

Dis.

[D Griff]

We're still in nearly full lockdown mode. I went to the gym for the first time in 7 months yesterday it was weird... it was only open at 25% capacity, everyone was masked up etc. It didn't really feel safe to be honest. But I am completely conditioned to the "new normal' out here.

Oh, gyms are barely open here, but I don't gym so whatever.

Restaurants are at reduced capacities, but dive bars don't seem to give a shit. Some places are taking it more seriously than others. Downtown on the weekends is solid people, no masks, minimal social distancing. It feels weird to be a community table with strangers again, but it's happening.

Kind of how it is here... there are still a bunch of rules/regs but it doesn't seem to matter, areas where early 20s people hang out are packed and vibrant. You have to be at a table/seated and any time you get up, you're required to mask up, but some places don't seem to abide by these rules.

[Huckleberry]

I was reading Hospitals in NJ, well not all but the one by Rutgers is at capacity again.

I'm not gonna lie I myself have been lacking in precaution. Daily numbers starting to go back up.

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The White House is leading by example. Now the Joint Chiefs of Staff are all quarantining due to exposure.
It's not a surprise that the numbers are going back up now. That's been predicted from the start. What's sad is that the administration has spent so much time releasing conflicting/inconsistent/bad information that people are picking and choosing what to adhere to, or just writing it off as a hoax altogether. The latter choice receiving false feelings of vindication from the president reasserting the idea.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Oh, gyms are barely open here, but I don't gym so whatever.

Restaurants are at reduced capacities, but dive bars don't seem to give a shit. Some places are taking it more seriously than others. Downtown on the weekends is solid people, no masks, minimal social distancing. It feels weird to be a community table with strangers again, but it's happening.

Kind of how it is here... there are still a bunch of rules/regs but it doesn't seem to matter, areas where early 20s people hang out are packed and vibrant. You have to be at a table/seated and any time you get up, you're required to mask up, but some places don't seem to abide by these rules.

Yep, sounds the same.

[coogles]

I've noticed around here mask usage is falling off quickly. When I took the Atlas in for it's free 10k service, only the service writer was wearing one, not a single other person in the place had on a mask, from techs to salespeople. They did have little UV-C "virus killer" lights up everywhere, but who knows how effective those things are. I made a quick Target run and at least half of folks weren't wearing one, and when I took my dog to the vet yesterday for her routine semi-annual visit the "doc" walked into this tiny little room and wasn't wearing one. No one in the little grooming area was wearing one either, just the front desk people.

I know I live in Trump land now, but a few weeks ago mask usage was much more universal. How people can be tired of something so inconsequential as a mask is beyond me. It's just a fucking mask. Wear it, .

[razr390]

I've noticed around here mask usage is falling off quickly. When I took the Atlas in for it's free 10k service, only the service writer was wearing one, not a single other person in the place had on a mask, from techs to salespeople. They did have little UV-C "virus killer" lights up everywhere, but who knows how effective those things are. I made a quick Target run and at least half of folks weren't wearing one, and when I took my dog to the vet yesterday for her routine semi-annual visit the "doc" walked into this tiny little room and wasn't wearing one. No one in the little grooming area was wearing one either, just the front desk people.

I know I live in Trump land now, but a few weeks ago mask usage was much more universal. How people can be tired of something so inconsequential as a mask is beyond me. It's just a fucking mask. Wear it, .

Oddly enough in Texas cowboy land the big cities all have a mask requirement in closed/non-social distance places.

Our governor basically made businesses accountable for enforcing mask requirements so every business now requires you have a mask or else they get fined (it’s a smart workaround from placing the burden directly on the “I kNoWd MuH rAiGhTz!” crowd.

It’s working okay, I’ve never been to any place that I’ve seen people get riled up like the news and whatnot shows. Most people here probably wear it just as the formality even if they don’t agree with it personally.

[D Griff]

I've noticed around here mask usage is falling off quickly. When I took the Atlas in for it's free 10k service, only the service writer was wearing one, not a single other person in the place had on a mask, from techs to salespeople. They did have little UV-C "virus killer" lights up everywhere, but who knows how effective those things are. I made a quick Target run and at least half of folks weren't wearing one, and when I took my dog to the vet yesterday for her routine semi-annual visit the "doc" walked into this tiny little room and wasn't wearing one. No one in the little grooming area was wearing one either, just the front desk people.

I know I live in Trump land now, but a few weeks ago mask usage was much more universal. How people can be tired of something so inconsequential as a mask is beyond me. It's just a fucking mask. Wear it, .

Yeah I mean I'm as tired of the masks as anyone and I question how bad COVID really is pretty deeply BUT it is a small price to pay to keep everyone safer, why you wouldn't use one. They are still quite universally used here, although still about 50% of people seem to keep them down below the nostrils, which has been the case since the beginning.

[SAWCE]

I've noticed around here mask usage is falling off quickly. When I took the Atlas in for it's free 10k service, only the service writer was wearing one, not a single other person in the place had on a mask, from techs to salespeople. They did have little UV-C "virus killer" lights up everywhere, but who knows how effective those things are. I made a quick Target run and at least half of folks weren't wearing one, and when I took my dog to the vet yesterday for her routine semi-annual visit the "doc" walked into this tiny little room and wasn't wearing one. No one in the little grooming area was wearing one either, just the front desk people.

I know I live in Trump land now, but a few weeks ago mask usage was much more universal. How people can be tired of something so inconsequential as a mask is beyond me. It's just a fucking mask. Wear it, .

Oddly enough in Texas cowboy land the big cities all have a mask requirement in closed/non-social distance places.

Our governor basically made businesses accountable for enforcing mask requirements so every business now requires you have a mask or else they get fined (it’s a smart workaround from placing the burden directly on the “I kNoWd MuH rAiGhTz!” crowd.

It’s working okay, I’ve never been to any place that I’ve seen people get riled up like the news and whatnot shows. Most people here probably wear it just as the formality even if they don’t agree with it personally.

That’s about how it is here. Everywhere makes you wear one to come in. Employees are typically good about having their mouth and nose covered appropriately, patrons are hit or miss with some people doing it right and some people just covering their mouths. Haven’t seen anyone give anyone else shit for being made to wear one or for wearing one incorrectly.

[wap]

I've noticed around here mask usage is falling off quickly. When I took the Atlas in for it's free 10k service, only the service writer was wearing one, not a single other person in the place had on a mask, from techs to salespeople. They did have little UV-C "virus killer" lights up everywhere, but who knows how effective those things are. I made a quick Target run and at least half of folks weren't wearing one, and when I took my dog to the vet yesterday for her routine semi-annual visit the "doc" walked into this tiny little room and wasn't wearing one. No one in the little grooming area was wearing one either, just the front desk people.

I know I live in Trump land now, but a few weeks ago mask usage was much more universal. How people can be tired of something so inconsequential as a mask is beyond me. It's just a fucking mask. Wear it, .

Yeah I mean I'm as tired of the masks as anyone and I question how bad COVID really is pretty deeply BUT it is a small price to pay to keep everyone safer, why you wouldn't use one. They are still quite universally used here, although still about 50% of people seem to keep them down below the nostrils, which has been the case since the beginning.

always me, though I keep my yap shut.
Don't these dummies understand how breathing works, FFS??

[Desertbreh]

I've noticed around here mask usage is falling off quickly. When I took the Atlas in for it's free 10k service, only the service writer was wearing one, not a single other person in the place had on a mask, from techs to salespeople. They did have little UV-C "virus killer" lights up everywhere, but who knows how effective those things are. I made a quick Target run and at least half of folks weren't wearing one, and when I took my dog to the vet yesterday for her routine semi-annual visit the "doc" walked into this tiny little room and wasn't wearing one. No one in the little grooming area was wearing one either, just the front desk people.

I know I live in Trump land now, but a few weeks ago mask usage was much more universal. How people can be tired of something so inconsequential as a mask is beyond me. It's just a fucking mask. Wear it, .

Yeah I mean I'm as tired of the masks as anyone and I question how bad COVID really is pretty deeply BUT it is a small price to pay to keep everyone safer, why you wouldn't use one. They are still quite universally used here, although still about 50% of people seem to keep them down below the nostrils, which has been the case since the beginning.

It's not bad at all for 35 yoa guys who are in shape, it's a thing if you're an obese 74 year old. Might even put you in the hospital.

[max225]

Yeah I mean I'm as tired of the masks as anyone and I question how bad COVID really is pretty deeply BUT it is a small price to pay to keep everyone safer, why you wouldn't use one. They are still quite universally used here, although still about 50% of people seem to keep them down below the nostrils, which has been the case since the beginning.

It's not bad at all for 35 yoa guys who are in shape, it's a thing if you're an obese 74 year old. Might even put you in the hospital.

Seems like they just go back to leading the country after 3 days in the hospital feeling better than 20 years ago.

[D Griff]

Yeah I mean I'm as tired of the masks as anyone and I question how bad COVID really is pretty deeply BUT it is a small price to pay to keep everyone safer, why you wouldn't use one. They are still quite universally used here, although still about 50% of people seem to keep them down below the nostrils, which has been the case since the beginning.

It's not bad at all for 35 yoa guys who are in shape, it's a thing if you're an obese 74 year old. Might even put you in the hospital.

Hey, I'm only 31

I'm not going to get into debating it here again, but I kind of echo Max's questioning of the available data. I also suspect that many of the 200K deaths are people who would've shit the bed this year regardless, although many were not.

All of that being said, I think that until we actually have better data, which will take time and take the gov/media not everything, it makes sense to just wear the mask and skip evenings at the night club for the potential greater good of our fellow countrymen/women. I wouldn't be doing much of anything outside of the house besides riding my bike/hiking with a few friends or maybe chillin' on the beach but my wife is rather insistent on socializing more. I think that it stems from the fact that her employer requires her to go everyday and be around a bunch of children and adults. Her life is much more "back-to-normal" at this point.

[Huckleberry]

It's not bad at all for 35 yoa guys who are in shape, it's a thing if you're an obese 74 year old. Might even put you in the hospital.

Seems like they just go back to leading the country after 3 days in the hospital feeling better than 20 years ago.

Magical cocktails of unobtainium and steroids will do that.

[Huckleberry]

I've noticed around here mask usage is falling off quickly. When I took the Atlas in for it's free 10k service, only the service writer was wearing one, not a single other person in the place had on a mask, from techs to salespeople. They did have little UV-C "virus killer" lights up everywhere, but who knows how effective those things are. I made a quick Target run and at least half of folks weren't wearing one, and when I took my dog to the vet yesterday for her routine semi-annual visit the "doc" walked into this tiny little room and wasn't wearing one. No one in the little grooming area was wearing one either, just the front desk people.

I know I live in Trump land now, but a few weeks ago mask usage was much more universal. How people can be tired of something so inconsequential as a mask is beyond me. It's just a fucking mask. Wear it, .

So, the virus needs to be exposed to UV-C over a duration of time in order to be effective. It's not long, somewhere along the lines of 30 seconds or so, but the light also has to be a specific distance from the surface and it has to be emitting a specific wavelength. Also, UV-C is not great for humans to be exposed to. It is the same kind of UV that is produced from a welding arc. If the lights are actually producing UV-C at the proper wavelength, then the employees could begin developing vision problems and skin burns from the prolonged exposure. However, the chances that those bulbs are emitting the necessary amounts of UV-C are slim.

[coogles]

I've noticed around here mask usage is falling off quickly. When I took the Atlas in for it's free 10k service, only the service writer was wearing one, not a single other person in the place had on a mask, from techs to salespeople. They did have little UV-C "virus killer" lights up everywhere, but who knows how effective those things are. I made a quick Target run and at least half of folks weren't wearing one, and when I took my dog to the vet yesterday for her routine semi-annual visit the "doc" walked into this tiny little room and wasn't wearing one. No one in the little grooming area was wearing one either, just the front desk people.

I know I live in Trump land now, but a few weeks ago mask usage was much more universal. How people can be tired of something so inconsequential as a mask is beyond me. It's just a fucking mask. Wear it, .

So, the virus needs to be exposed to UV-C over a duration of time in order to be effective. It's not long, somewhere along the lines of 30 seconds or so, but the light also has to be a specific distance from the surface and it has to be emitting a specific wavelength. Also, UV-C is not great for humans to be exposed to. It is the same kind of UV that is produced from a welding arc. If the lights are actually producing UV-C at the proper wavelength, then the employees could begin developing vision problems and skin burns from the prolonged exposure. However, the chances that those bulbs are emitting the necessary amounts of UV-C are slim.

Right? I didn't think humans were supposed to be exposed to that stuff in high doses.

[Huckleberry]

So, the virus needs to be exposed to UV-C over a duration of time in order to be effective. It's not long, somewhere along the lines of 30 seconds or so, but the light also has to be a specific distance from the surface and it has to be emitting a specific wavelength. Also, UV-C is not great for humans to be exposed to. It is the same kind of UV that is produced from a welding arc. If the lights are actually producing UV-C at the proper wavelength, then the employees could begin developing vision problems and skin burns from the prolonged exposure. However, the chances that those bulbs are emitting the necessary amounts of UV-C are slim.

Right? I didn't think humans were supposed to be exposed to that stuff in high doses.

Yeah, it's not good for prolonged UV-C exposure. The potential saving grace for the employees is that the lamps probably aren't emitting much more than a blue light. There is a lot of snake oil that has flooded the market claiming to save the world from COVID.