DFD

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:11 am**

Floating calipers are just fine.

Typical disc brakes have a solid piece that mounts to the hub, and the caliper body moves from the pressure of one or more pistons.

Fixed are the caliper body is hard mounted to the hub and the pistons alone push the pads onto the rotor.
You get much more even pressure over the pad surface.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:22 am**

golftdibrad1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:24 am
Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:15 am

I'm pretty sure the rears are sliders. Audi, BMW, and MB all cheap out and put sliders on the rear.
Rears dont ever do much and dont call for waxables. Hell, MOST street cars dont either. The biggest benefit of quick pad changes isnt utilized by 99% of people with waxables anyway

Who cares? They look good and if they offered the option I would pay it just for OCDs sake. It's purely cost cutting and I don't want costs cut on what is theoretically a top tier car.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:23 am**

Melon2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:11 am Floating calipers are just fine.

Typical disc brakes have a solid piece that mounts to the hub, and the caliper body moves from the pressure of one or more pistons.

Fixed are the caliper body is hard mounted to the hub and the pistons alone push the pads onto the rotor.
You get much more even pressure over the pad surface.

Sometimes that's not good enough.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:25 am**

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:22 am
golftdibrad1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:24 am

Rears dont ever do much and dont call for waxables. Hell, MOST street cars dont either. The biggest benefit of quick pad changes isnt utilized by 99% of people with waxables anyway
Who cares? They look good and if they offered the option I would pay it just for OCDs sake. It's purely cost cutting and I don't want costs cut on what is theoretically a top tier car.

Especially when the prior generations had them AND cost less.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:29 am**

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:23 am
Melon2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:11 am Floating calipers are just fine.

Typical disc brakes have a solid piece that mounts to the hub, and the caliper body moves from the pressure of one or more pistons.

Fixed are the caliper body is hard mounted to the hub and the pistons alone push the pads onto the rotor.
You get much more even pressure over the pad surface.

Sometimes that's not good enough.

putting the foot down where it matters.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:33 am**

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:23 am Sometimes that's not good enough.

Depends on the context of the application, I agree with you there.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:42 am**

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:22 am
golftdibrad1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:24 am

Rears dont ever do much and dont call for waxables. Hell, MOST street cars dont either. The biggest benefit of quick pad changes isnt utilized by 99% of people with waxables anyway
Who cares? They look good and if they offered the option I would pay it just for OCDs sake. It's purely cost cutting and I don't want costs cut on what is theoretically a top tier car.

I dont; its just a pay to play. adds cost to the vehicle. If you can afford that class of vehicle, go for it.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:59 pm**

Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:25 am
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:22 am

Who cares? They look good and if they offered the option I would pay it just for OCDs sake. It's purely cost cutting and I don't want costs cut on what is theoretically a top tier car.

Especially when the prior generations had them AND cost less.

Parked next to a 45th Anniversary Camaro SS this morning. Waxable red Brembros, front and rear. A FUCKING CAMARO.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:13 pm**

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:59 pm Parked next to a 45th Anniversary Camaro SS this morning. Waxable red Brembros, front and rear. A FUCKING CAMARO.

Camaros are for the poors.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:16 pm**

max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:04 am
SAWCE wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:57 am What’s a slider brake vs brake with pistons? :flamesuit:
One has pistons on both sides of the rotor and the other gets put on a geo metro

Lol thanks. I see a few Geo Metros still beating around up here :impressive:

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:22 pm**

SAWCE wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:16 pm
max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:04 am

One has pistons on both sides of the rotor and the other gets put on a geo metro
Lol thanks. I see a few Geo Metros still beating around up here

Those have drums in the back, talk about old tech!

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:25 pm**

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:59 pm
Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:25 am

Especially when the prior generations had them AND cost less.
Parked next to a 45th Anniversary Camaro SS this morning. Waxable red Brembros, front and rear. A FUCKING CAMARO.

Yet we have a 100k m3 with slidies

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:25 pm**

golftdibrad1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:22 pm
SAWCE wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:16 pm

Lol thanks. I see a few Geo Metros still beating around up here
Those have drums in the back, talk about old tech!

I have drums in the taco … and fixed calipers up front. Probably the only vehicle on the planet with this combo

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:28 pm**

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:59 pm
Gberg2119 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:25 am

Especially when the prior generations had them AND cost less.
Parked next to a 45th Anniversary Camaro SS this morning. Waxable red Brembros, front and rear. A FUCKING CAMARO.

It's even more of a travesty when you option the $9,000 ceramics. Even that doesn't get you a fixed rear and I don't even know if all the rotors are ceramic. I thought audi was doing something where only the front rotors were ceramic for that option on some cars.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:29 pm**

Melon2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:13 pm
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:59 pm Parked next to a 45th Anniversary Camaro SS this morning. Waxable red Brembros, front and rear. A FUCKING CAMARO.
Camaros are for the poors.

Nothings lacking when you're Cadillacing

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:34 pm**

golftdibrad1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:43 am
max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:26 am

It was the" shady dealer rebuilt ND" comment that got me... that's a risk my dude
After looking a little more, not so shady. They do this as a business erry day
https://www-carpaautobroker-com.transla ... _hist=true

Its definitely a risk, no doubt about it.

Pro: They offered not unreasonable trade on the orange car.
Pro: Looks like they are a school for crafts, they could really make the orange car nice, teach some kids, and make some money on it
Pro: save trade value of orange car on taxes (~1k)
Pro: save ~10k on price of similar miles / year/ etc ND
Pro (to me): the 'new' is most certainly knocked off

Con: permanent 'equity' hit
Con: Insurance may be more and allstate already said no to rebuilt title, so maybe more difficult as well
Con: Forever questions about quality of repair, straightness, etc.

Con: Insurance is nearly double the non-rebuilt title cars. Effectively will zero out any savings. Probably makes this a pass.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:35 pm**

max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:25 pm
golftdibrad1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:22 pm

Those have drums in the back, talk about old tech!
I have drums in the taco … and fixed calipers up front. Probably the only vehicle on the planet with this combo

outside of some classic old dedicated club racers you are very likely correct. Very :wtf:

combo

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:01 pm**

golftdibrad1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:35 pm
max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:25 pm

I have drums in the taco … and fixed calipers up front. Probably the only vehicle on the planet with this combo
outside of some classic old dedicated club racers you are very likely correct. Very combo

My TJ wrangler has entered the chat!! That setup is pretty common from mid 90s on!

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:30 pm**

max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:25 pm
golftdibrad1 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:22 pm

Those have drums in the back, talk about old tech!
I have drums in the taco … and fixed calipers up front. Probably the only vehicle on the planet with this combo

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:33 pm**

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:29 pm
Melon2.0 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 1:13 pm

Camaros are for the poors.
Nothings lacking when you're Cadillacing

Truck and the E30 have fixed four piston up front, and single piston floating in the rear.
Cadillac brakes are just insane 380mm two piece rotor upfront, with 6 piston, single piece 340.5mm rotor in the rear, 4 piston with separate parking brake caliper.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 3:34 pm**

Drums in a truck made sense before they all had ABS. Don't need those rears locking up and spinning the fuck out.
Also, drums last a long fucking time, it's odd seeing them in a modern age for sure though. I wouldn't buy a vehicle with drums anymore, unless it was sub $10,000 new (2024 dollars), which doesn't exist in our market.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 4:46 pm**

Got 0 issues with the brakes in the taco. They easily overpower the tires.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:48 pm**

adoob wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 8:04 pm
fledonfoot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:44 pm It’s taken a week for the Miata to get from Tulsa to Charlotte. At this rate I might not see it this week
Out of the loop but did you swap the 86 for a miat?

Oh, no.

I flipped the GR86 for a hefty profit after 6 months. Ended up with a Pro4-X Frontier for a while and after that turned into a bag of shit offloaded it for a 24 Prius Prime.

My purchases go from extreme to extreme, usually. Focus ST to Silverado to GTI to Tacoma to Corolla Hybrid to GR86 to Pro4X to Prius Prime in the last 7 years.

I don’t like money.

Miata replaces nothing and is a second car. Prius is perfect appliance for commuting. So I’ll probably trade that for a Polestar 2.

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:56 pm**

Poopstar 2 at 299 a month seems like a no brainer for a throwaway EV

Posted: **Thu Jun 13, 2024 10:00 pm**

max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 13, 2024 9:56 pm Poopstar 2 at 299 a month seems like a no brainer for a throwaway EV

It’s like $340 after tax with $4k out of pocket. I’m just going to burn down the Prius lease. Buyout on it is $19k so will probably buy it because it’s a fantastic appliance and finally did the second car thing to split mileage.

DFD

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