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OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:41 am
by Tar
dubshow wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:38 am
Melon2.0 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:58 am That which is done, can be undone.
We'll never see a penny of the "savings" anyway.
any "savings" should be immediately applied to the debt...

if they dole out checks, we in for another roller coaster inflation ride. :yikes:
Zero chance we're going to be inflationary for a while. I'm expecting deflation, and the tax paybacks will be needed to keep some spending going. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong?

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:48 am
by golftdibrad1
Tar wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:41 am
dubshow wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:38 am

any "savings" should be immediately applied to the debt...

if they dole out checks, we in for another roller coaster inflation ride. :yikes:
Zero chance we're going to be inflationary for a while. I'm expecting deflation, and the tax paybacks will be needed to keep some spending going. Who knows, maybe I'm wrong?
Biden injected like a trillion dollars in the system in august, when i guess they internally were seeing the writing on the wall. And started drumming up bird flu. We see the results of bird flu, the inflation will hit right around april. pepper thy :knot: . and you heard it here first, the left will be screaming that its trumps fault, but it was not.

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:48 am
by dubshow
thats a solid point Tar, will just have to see how it plays out. I'm on board for the slash and hack approach. We will get results.

others seem to have little sympathy for the people in the private world duking it out in a volatile market since 1998. 2008. 2016. 2020.... mass layoffs in the bloated fed space seem long over due. Those roles of well paid, cushy and secure fed jobs, pensions etc, are memes that predate the internet.

I guess you should just learn to code? oh wait. :lol:

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OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:54 am
by dubshow
heh. scaled out for even greater context. Hope those oil bros didn't waste too much time learning to code.

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OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:57 am
by max225
The time we will get deflation is when the boomers get wiped by a stock market and housing crash. There is no reason why a house that was worth 150k in a flyover pos town is now worth 500k in a matter of 4 years. That amount of wealth is what is spinning up all this crazy spending …

As well as working a shit job contributing 5k a year to 401k and having it be worth 4 million by the time you’re 65… but cracks are showing in this Ponzi scheme

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:00 am
by golftdibrad1
dubshow wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:54 am heh. scaled out for even greater context. Hope those oil bros didn't waste too much time learning to code.

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Code: Select all

import time

while True:
    print("learn to code lol")
    time.sleep(1)


OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:01 am
by Melon2.0
I meant in a reduced tax burden in upcoming years.

As is projected Trump's current tax cut plan will increase the national debt.
But this is yet to be seen, there's a lot in play at the moment.

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:03 am
by dubshow
max225 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:57 am The time we will get deflation is when the boomers get wiped by a stock market and housing crash. There is no reason why a house that was worth 150k in a flyover pos town is now worth 500k in a matter of 4 years. That amount of wealth is what is spinning up all this crazy spending …

As well as working a shit job contributing 5k a year to 401k and having it be worth 4 million by the time you’re 65… but cracks are showing in this Ponzi scheme
I was gonna go to the house bread... but people my age (sub 40) are still dropping big money for big houses to grow families in...

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5412 ... 0611_zpid/

I can't wrap my head around this one. bought 1.15M in hood with houses 500-650k. The boomers in 90s houses will think there un-updated shit is worth 1m....

The finances of a 1.15m houses.... $10k+ house note, they have 2 kids, private nanny and daycare, new 100k lexus. thats like $15k in monthly basic living.... before eating.

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:05 am
by Melon2.0
max225 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:57 am The time we will get deflation is when the boomers get wiped by a stock market and housing crash. There is no reason why a house that was worth 150k in a flyover pos town is now worth 500k in a matter of 4 years. That amount of wealth is what is spinning up all this crazy spending …

As well as working a shit job contributing 5k a year to 401k and having it be worth 4 million by the time you’re 65… but cracks are showing in this Ponzi scheme
Yeah, that's one of the many reasons we are at where we are at. It's such a tangled web of fuckery.

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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:11 am
by Melon2.0
Let's switch gears.

:manuel:

De-classification of the JFK files.
Discuss.

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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:19 am
by dubshow
Melon2.0 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:11 am Let's switch gears.

:manuel:

De-classification of the JFK files.
Discuss.
:fuckyeah: all the players should come to light. i still don't think the release will satisfy all the many decades of conspiracy tho.

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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:22 am
by Melon2.0
dubshow wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:19 am i still don't think the release will satisfy all the many decades of conspiracy tho.
I agree. I think it will be a more detailed account of what's already in the Warren Report.

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:37 am
by max225
dubshow wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:03 am
max225 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 9:57 am The time we will get deflation is when the boomers get wiped by a stock market and housing crash. There is no reason why a house that was worth 150k in a flyover pos town is now worth 500k in a matter of 4 years. That amount of wealth is what is spinning up all this crazy spending …

As well as working a shit job contributing 5k a year to 401k and having it be worth 4 million by the time you’re 65… but cracks are showing in this Ponzi scheme
I was gonna go to the house bread... but people my age (sub 40) are still dropping big money for big houses to grow families in...

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5412 ... 0611_zpid/

I can't wrap my head around this one. bought 1.15M in hood with houses 500-650k. The boomers in 90s houses will think there un-updated shit is worth 1m....

The finances of a 1.15m houses.... $10k+ house note, they have 2 kids, private nanny and daycare, new 100k lexus. thats like $15k in monthly basic living.... before eating.
School rating of 2 and 7 figure house … fuck that
250k down
8k a month for just house and taxes
Nanny is 3k
Daycare is 2.5k
Groceries 1.5k
Car notes + gas 2k
Random shit like eating out and gifts 2k
Travel 1k
Well over 20k which is frankly a basic bitch budget with nothing fancy in here. No business class flying or Michelin dining

Who the fuck clears 20k in LA? A month ? That seems like a 1% er job and that house is not even nice

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:38 am
by max225
Melon2.0 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:11 am Let's switch gears.

:manuel:

De-classification of the JFK files.
Discuss.
Has it fucking happened ? This was promised 8 years ago and Jack shit

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:49 am
by Melon2.0
max225 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:38 am Has it fucking happened ? This was promised 8 years ago and Jack shit
I believe they're to be released here in the next few days.

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:12 am
by SAWCE
golftdibrad1 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:45 am :pout: more

you are :wrong:
golftdibrad1 wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:11 pm Here is a lesson in civics. Not the 50k hypeR kind.


https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/18 ... 1790832859


CRY HARDER so I can CLOWN YOU HARDER

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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:25 am
by golftdibrad1
SAWCE wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:12 am
golftdibrad1 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:45 am :pout: more

you are :wrong:


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Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:26 am
by golftdibrad1
SAWCE wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:12 am
golftdibrad1 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 7:45 am :pout: more

you are :wrong:


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https://x.com/chadfelixg/status/1893656697706533326

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OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:43 am
by dubshow
max225 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:37 am
dubshow wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:03 am

I was gonna go to the house bread... but people my age (sub 40) are still dropping big money for big houses to grow families in...

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/5412 ... 0611_zpid/

I can't wrap my head around this one. bought 1.15M in hood with houses 500-650k. The boomers in 90s houses will think there un-updated shit is worth 1m....

The finances of a 1.15m houses.... $10k+ house note, they have 2 kids, private nanny and daycare, new 100k lexus. thats like $15k in monthly basic living.... before eating.
School rating of 2 and 7 figure house … fuck that
250k down
8k a month for just house and taxes
Nanny is 3k
Daycare is 2.5k
Groceries 1.5k
Car notes + gas 2k
Random shit like eating out and gifts 2k
Travel 1k
Well over 20k which is frankly a basic bitch budget with nothing fancy in here. No business class flying or Michelin dining

Who the fuck clears 20k in LA? A month ? That seems like a 1% er job and that house is not even nice
i love your super jaded cali view points. :lol:

blows my mind when a nice $1m house is "basic bitch". I'd say in greater BR area, about 10-15% of houses are in the 1m+ range. most decent ones hover in the 300-500k range.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge ... bf41c.html

example couple comes from a wealthy family, both med drs. one is likely 300-400k and wife is part time 80k

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:45 am
by dubshow
golftdibrad1 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:26 am
SAWCE wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:12 am


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so they were all nazis!? EVERYONE I DISLIKE IS A NAZI!? :hubba:

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:56 am
by SAWCE
Brad, honest question, do you think that any of what Trump/Musk have done has overstepped what their bounds should be?

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:57 am
by golftdibrad1
dubshow wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:45 am
so they were all nazis!? EVERYONE I DISLIKE IS A NAZI!? :hubba:

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OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:09 pm
by golftdibrad1
SAWCE wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:56 am Brad, honest question, do you think that any of what Trump/Musk have done has overstepped what their bounds should be?
"Should be" under the constitution? Nope. The executive runs/administers the government. See above civics lesson.

Not specifically appropriated under congressional spending authority? afuera!
Waste, cutting payroll to reduce expenditure to maybe for once in our lifetimes not needing to raise the debt ceiling? afuera!
Elimination of departments not authorized by congressional act? afuera!
To the unchecked radical bureaucratic overreach? afuera!

I can feel sorry for a person and / or good peoples (ie, you) whos gov jobs are being eliminated, remote work promises not kept, etc.

However on a macro level this has / needs to happen. Those chucklefucks in DC have got to balance the budget, root out the corruption, and start being accountable to we the people again. Like in any war, there will be casualties; be thankful its not a shooting one.

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:09 pm
by dubshow
Sauce, I feel this is well within the fed - exec branch to audit and reduce spending. Elon is an advisor role. He is a ploy/scapegoat.

Clinton did this very same thing. Exec penned/willed an audit group. The last admin that cared about a balanced budget. Any fed group that has spawned from the 70s now has a target on it. They had a need when created but over the decades have wildly overstepped the initial intent. No charity, group, bureaucracy has EVER scaled BACK their mission, bounds, or funding. Its always perpetual growth, even once their agenda is accomplished.

from my perspective, the DOGE effort has been hyper transparent in audit findings. which are staggering and things we already knew.

OT 21: DFD Giveth and DFD Taketh Away

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:09 pm
by max225
dubshow wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 11:43 am
max225 wrote: Mon Feb 24, 2025 10:37 am

School rating of 2 and 7 figure house … fuck that
250k down
8k a month for just house and taxes
Nanny is 3k
Daycare is 2.5k
Groceries 1.5k
Car notes + gas 2k
Random shit like eating out and gifts 2k
Travel 1k
Well over 20k which is frankly a basic bitch budget with nothing fancy in here. No business class flying or Michelin dining

Who the fuck clears 20k in LA? A month ? That seems like a 1% er job and that house is not even nice
i love your super jaded cali view points. :lol:

blows my mind when a nice $1m house is "basic bitch". I'd say in greater BR area, about 10-15% of houses are in the 1m+ range. most decent ones hover in the 300-500k range.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge ... bf41c.html

example couple comes from a wealthy family, both med drs. one is likely 300-400k and wife is part time 80k
Call me crazy but to me … a 7 figure house is a huge liability and expense that shouldn’t be common place. Because the jobs required to maintain that level of debt are just super difficult to come by… yet somehow it’s all too common nowadays.

It really feels like 2008 all over again