Goldilocks Zone Brainstorming

[razr390]

My former boss works for Cognizant, a huge company that does a lot of consulting work. They have about 300k employees worldwide. He is 100% remote, tied to/based out of their DC office.

Every 100% WFH role that is at least director or above is usually tied to the company’s biggest office in their proximity. His company’s US HQ is in New Jersey, but they have regional offices everywhere.

I feel like it’s the same principle with Max’s scenario.

Troy, your wife’s management may be cooler with it if you show them you’re planning to stay nearby one of their corporate offices. NC might be your best bet to play it safe (rent for a year and evaluate)

[Desertbreh]

I’d move to Hawaii. Would be awesome.

Yea sure, and I’d love to wake up to a view of the Eiffel Tower also a man can dream

I've seen a few episodes of "Island Hunters" and such. You can buy a pretty nice retirement home in Hawaii for a lot less than you might imagine......dat COLA doe.

[max225]

Yea sure, and I’d love to wake up to a view of the Eiffel Tower also a man can dream

I've seen a few episodes of "Island Hunters" and such. You can buy a pretty nice retirement home in Hawaii for a lot less than you might imagine......dat COLA doe.

Quite aware, Big island is around 150-250k for a house, you just have to be faced with the possibility, of it turning into a used match every couple of years... The woman and I thought about Maui, but that's a millskie again. The big draw for us is the direct 4.5 hr flight... We can get to hawaii quicker than to Texas or NY

[Desertbreh]

I've seen a few episodes of "Island Hunters" and such. You can buy a pretty nice retirement home in Hawaii for a lot less than you might imagine......dat COLA doe.

Quite aware, Big island is around 150-250k for a house, you just have to be faced with the possibility, of it turning into a used match every couple of years... The woman and I thought about Maui, but that's a millskie again. The big draw for us is the direct 4.5 hr flight... We can get to hawaii quicker than to Texas or NY

The episodes I saw had guys getting $500Kish places on the Big Island, NOT on the beach, NOT in a Lava flow, but around Kona with an ocean view. New or recent construction. That's reasonable to me.

[SAWCE]

Yea sure, and I’d love to wake up to a view of the Eiffel Tower also a man can dream

I've seen a few episodes of "Island Hunters" and such. You can buy a pretty nice retirement home in Hawaii for a lot less than you might imagine......dat COLA doe.

$27 for a gallon of milk.

[troyguitar]

I'd stall my career at this level for the rest of my career if I could WFH 100% and live wherever I wanted. That would be a massive perk.

My point is, I don't think it is a predictable and sustainable practice. Say you move to PR, under the premise that you get to WFH 100%. Say shit hits the fan you get laid off, the fuck you gonna do, find a job in PR? No company has adapted a full 100% policy as such to sustain it. And that massive population shift hasn't happened. Otherwise everyone would live in much cheaper places.

TL;DR
This is 100% jumping the gun.

Yeah so there are a number of reasons why Charlotte remains at the top of the list - and why we almost bought a place in Charlotte last year NFG too. It's not our dream location but it could be our best reasonable choice.

A: If shit hits the fan right now, we are already fucked. Who else do you work for in Corning, NY but Corning, Inc? There are no more other jobs here than there are in Puerto Rico. It's Corning or being a Corona Cashier at the grocery store. Charlotte actually has other companies where we might be able to get real local jobs.

B: is about maxed out career-progress-wise within this company, any higher move would require A FUCKLOAD more time, effort, and stress with which she is unable to deal without physically making herself sick. She's pretty much looking at other companies for any further moves, with no more meaningful title/responsibility/salary increases but hopefully quality of life increases - like actual 21st century policies on vacation time or WFH flexibility or an office in a nice place. Corning gives 4 weeks of vacation after 15 fucking years of service. Google gives 5 weeks at like 3 years and has offices all over the globe from which you can work. has what, 12 weeks plus 100% remote flexibility? Fuck Corning. Going to 100% remote and moving to a real city is not our idea of a permanent move, it's continuing to be paid while looking for a better job.

C: Corning just finished building a secondary HQ in Charlotte. That's where she was hoping to end up working in the first place but it didn't happen because no luck. They have a corporate shuttle that flies between Charlotte and Corning 2 or 3 times a week. She could easily get between the two locations or even probably ride a desk in Charlotte if they just have to have her "on company property" for some reason. The only other city with direct flights to the Corning area is Detroit, if we lived anywhere else then getting to HQ would be a 1-2 stop flight.

[troyguitar]

I like to dream about France or California but the reality is that we will never live there. We might live in North Carolina some day if we're lucky.

[D Griff]

My point is, I don't think it is a predictable and sustainable practice. Say you move to PR, under the premise that you get to WFH 100%. Say shit hits the fan you get laid off, the fuck you gonna do, find a job in PR? No company has adapted a full 100% policy as such to sustain it. And that massive population shift hasn't happened. Otherwise everyone would live in much cheaper places.

TL;DR
This is 100% jumping the gun.

Yeah so there are a number of reasons why Charlotte remains at the top of the list - and why we almost bought a place in Charlotte last year NFG too. It's not our dream location but it could be our best reasonable choice.

A: If shit hits the fan right now, we are already fucked. Who else do you work for in Corning, NY but Corning, Inc? There are no more other jobs here than there are in Puerto Rico. It's Corning or being a Corona Cashier at the grocery store. Charlotte actually has other companies where we might be able to get real local jobs.

B: is about maxed out career-progress-wise within this company, any higher move would require A FUCKLOAD more time, effort, and stress with which she is unable to deal without physically making herself sick. She's pretty much looking at other companies for any further moves, with no more meaningful title/responsibility/salary increases but hopefully quality of life increases - like actual 21st century policies on vacation time or WFH flexibility or an office in a nice place. Corning gives 4 weeks of vacation after 15 fucking years of service. Google gives 5 weeks at like 3 years and has offices all over the globe from which you can work. has what, 12 weeks plus 100% remote flexibility? Fuck Corning. Going to 100% remote and moving to a real city is not our idea of a permanent move, it's continuing to be paid while looking for a better job.

C: Corning just finished building a secondary HQ in Charlotte. That's where she was hoping to end up working in the first place but it didn't happen because no luck. They have a corporate shuttle that flies between Charlotte and Corning 2 or 3 times a week. She could easily get between the two locations or even probably ride a desk in Charlotte if they just have to have her "on company property" for some reason. The only other city with direct flights to the Corning area is Detroit, if we lived anywhere else then getting to HQ would be a 1-2 stop flight.

Definitely plenty of job opportunity here, what does she do specifically?

[razr390]

Yeah so there are a number of reasons why Charlotte remains at the top of the list - and why we almost bought a place in Charlotte last year NFG too. It's not our dream location but it could be our best reasonable choice.

A: If shit hits the fan right now, we are already fucked. Who else do you work for in Corning, NY but Corning, Inc? There are no more other jobs here than there are in Puerto Rico. It's Corning or being a Corona Cashier at the grocery store. Charlotte actually has other companies where we might be able to get real local jobs.

B: is about maxed out career-progress-wise within this company, any higher move would require A FUCKLOAD more time, effort, and stress with which she is unable to deal without physically making herself sick. She's pretty much looking at other companies for any further moves, with no more meaningful title/responsibility/salary increases but hopefully quality of life increases - like actual 21st century policies on vacation time or WFH flexibility or an office in a nice place. Corning gives 4 weeks of vacation after 15 fucking years of service. Google gives 5 weeks at like 3 years and has offices all over the globe from which you can work. has what, 12 weeks plus 100% remote flexibility? Fuck Corning. Going to 100% remote and moving to a real city is not our idea of a permanent move, it's continuing to be paid while looking for a better job.

C: Corning just finished building a secondary HQ in Charlotte. That's where she was hoping to end up working in the first place but it didn't happen because no luck. They have a corporate shuttle that flies between Charlotte and Corning 2 or 3 times a week. She could easily get between the two locations or even probably ride a desk in Charlotte if they just have to have her "on company property" for some reason. The only other city with direct flights to the Corning area is Detroit, if we lived anywhere else then getting to HQ would be a 1-2 stop flight.

Definitely plenty of job opportunity here, what does she do specifically?

She pays most of the bills

[MexicanYarisTK]

I'd stall my career at this level for the rest of my career if I could WFH 100% and live wherever I wanted. That would be a massive perk.

My point is, I don't think it is a predictable and sustainable practice. Say you move to PR, under the premise that you get to WFH 100%. Say shit hits the fan you get laid off, the fuck you gonna do, find a job in PR? No company has adapted a full 100% policy as such to sustain it. And that massive population shift hasn't happened. Otherwise everyone would live in much cheaper places.

TL;DR
This is 100% jumping the gun.

say if this wasn't the case, there wouldn't be THAT much rush hour traffic in my area. Not to mention, lot of people move there for their career as an attorney for the most part and many others. At this point, freelancing is the only way to move pretty much anywhere cheap.

On the contrary, If I was in the position like that, I'd compromise cheap cost and a good place to live. I don't mind living in Baltimore, it's scene is pretty chill depending on which part if you don't mind venturing elsewhere by car here and there & drive to DC often to see friends, family and other stuff I like to do, since Baltimore county itself is so cheap compared to my neck of the woods even. If there's no reason for me to live in the DC metro other than work period without having to show up at an office, I'd say fuck it and move to Barcelona.

[max225]

My point is, I don't think it is a predictable and sustainable practice. Say you move to PR, under the premise that you get to WFH 100%. Say shit hits the fan you get laid off, the fuck you gonna do, find a job in PR? No company has adapted a full 100% policy as such to sustain it. And that massive population shift hasn't happened. Otherwise everyone would live in much cheaper places.

TL;DR
This is 100% jumping the gun.

Yeah so there are a number of reasons why Charlotte remains at the top of the list - and why we almost bought a place in Charlotte last year NFG too. It's not our dream location but it could be our best reasonable choice.

A: If shit hits the fan right now, we are already fucked. Who else do you work for in Corning, NY but Corning, Inc? There are no more other jobs here than there are in Puerto Rico. It's Corning or being a Corona Cashier at the grocery store. Charlotte actually has other companies where we might be able to get real local jobs.

B: is about maxed out career-progress-wise within this company, any higher move would require A FUCKLOAD more time, effort, and stress with which she is unable to deal without physically making herself sick. She's pretty much looking at other companies for any further moves, with no more meaningful title/responsibility/salary increases but hopefully quality of life increases - like actual 21st century policies on vacation time or WFH flexibility or an office in a nice place. Corning gives 4 weeks of vacation after 15 fucking years of service. Google gives 5 weeks at like 3 years and has offices all over the globe from which you can work. has what, 12 weeks plus 100% remote flexibility? Fuck Corning. Going to 100% remote and moving to a real city is not our idea of a permanent move, it's continuing to be paid while looking for a better job.

C: Corning just finished building a secondary HQ in Charlotte. That's where she was hoping to end up working in the first place but it didn't happen because no luck. They have a corporate shuttle that flies between Charlotte and Corning 2 or 3 times a week. She could easily get between the two locations or even probably ride a desk in Charlotte if they just have to have her "on company property" for some reason. The only other city with direct flights to the Corning area is Detroit, if we lived anywhere else then getting to HQ would be a 1-2 stop flight.

And here is your answer, Charlotte is the way

[max225]

I like to dream about France or California but the reality is that we will never live there. We might live in North Carolina some day if we're lucky.

I don’t understand the France piece but ok.

[troyguitar]

Yeah so there are a number of reasons why Charlotte remains at the top of the list - and why we almost bought a place in Charlotte last year NFG too. It's not our dream location but it could be our best reasonable choice.

A: If shit hits the fan right now, we are already fucked. Who else do you work for in Corning, NY but Corning, Inc? There are no more other jobs here than there are in Puerto Rico. It's Corning or being a Corona Cashier at the grocery store. Charlotte actually has other companies where we might be able to get real local jobs.

B: is about maxed out career-progress-wise within this company, any higher move would require A FUCKLOAD more time, effort, and stress with which she is unable to deal without physically making herself sick. She's pretty much looking at other companies for any further moves, with no more meaningful title/responsibility/salary increases but hopefully quality of life increases - like actual 21st century policies on vacation time or WFH flexibility or an office in a nice place. Corning gives 4 weeks of vacation after 15 fucking years of service. Google gives 5 weeks at like 3 years and has offices all over the globe from which you can work. has what, 12 weeks plus 100% remote flexibility? Fuck Corning. Going to 100% remote and moving to a real city is not our idea of a permanent move, it's continuing to be paid while looking for a better job.

C: Corning just finished building a secondary HQ in Charlotte. That's where she was hoping to end up working in the first place but it didn't happen because no luck. They have a corporate shuttle that flies between Charlotte and Corning 2 or 3 times a week. She could easily get between the two locations or even probably ride a desk in Charlotte if they just have to have her "on company property" for some reason. The only other city with direct flights to the Corning area is Detroit, if we lived anywhere else then getting to HQ would be a 1-2 stop flight.

Definitely plenty of job opportunity here, what does she do specifically?

Whatever someone will let her do, she's never had multiple job opportunities from which to choose. What do you want for 2 master's degrees from the best school in the world? Right now she manages a small team doing market/competition analysis for glass companies... in automotive applications.

That was a fucking bait and switch story itself. She was originally supposed to have a similar job but in the more general display glass development division. A week after we moved up here they reorganized the whole thing and punted her into a tiny new division focused on automotive with a new boss and 50% more responsibility without any discussion or raise.

[razr390]

I like to dream about France or California but the reality is that we will never live there. We might live in North Carolina some day if we're lucky.

I don’t understand the France piece but ok.

He just really likes baguettes

[troyguitar]

I like to dream about France or California but the reality is that we will never live there. We might live in North Carolina some day if we're lucky.

I don’t understand the France piece but ok.

I love that place. I love the language. I love the food. I love the art. I love the people, the wine, the history, the architecture, the attitude and the whole way of life there.

It took 20 years to get to go visit once in 2018 and it was the best time of my life. I cried when I finally made it. I cried when I had to leave.

[max225]

I don’t understand the France piece but ok.

I love that place. I love the language. I love the food. I love the art. I love the people, the wine, the history, the architecture, the attitude and the whole way of life there.

It took 20 years to get to go visit once in 2018 and it was the best time of my life. I cried when I finally made it. I cried when I had to leave.

That’s how I feel about Maui, minus the crying. But I have to be realistic too.

[troyguitar]

Being realistic sucks. It's fucking snowing like crazy now and I'm realistically stuck in this shit for the foreseeable future.

[MexicanYarisTK]

He just really likes baguettes

I mean, have you had a fresh baked baguette?

my shithole country has baguettes too

[Desertbreh]

Being realistic sucks. It's fucking snowing like crazy now and I'm realistically stuck in this shit for the foreseeable future.

QFT

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Being realistic sucks. It's fucking snowing like crazy now and I'm realistically stuck in this shit for the foreseeable future.

We had a random squall move through a few hours ago and the wife had a meltdown. Crying, carrying on, lots of "stuck in this shit for the foreseeable future talk"

Got the ganja out, all is now. Allman Brothers on and everything

[CaleDeRoo]

Being realistic sucks. It's fucking snowing like crazy now and I'm realistically stuck in this shit for the foreseeable future.

Damn it's blue skies here. Sorry Troy.

[Desertbreh]

Being realistic sucks. It's fucking snowing like crazy now and I'm realistically stuck in this shit for the foreseeable future.

We had a random squall move through a few hours ago and the wife had a meltdown. Crying, carrying on, lots of "stuck in this shit for the foreseeable future talk"

Got the ganja out, all is now. Allman Brothers on and everything

The JB Weld of personal life.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

We had a random squall move through a few hours ago and the wife had a meltdown. Crying, carrying on, lots of "stuck in this shit for the foreseeable future talk"

Got the ganja out, all is now. Allman Brothers on and everything

The JB Weld of personal life.

It really is.

Smoked a bowl, crying stopped, we cooked up some awesome veggie stir fry on brown rice.with a fantastic Viognier...life is a ok.

You can dwell on what sucks, or find a way to cope that isn't full blown drug addiction.

[MexicanYarisTK]

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The JB Weld of personal life.

It really is.

Smoked a bowl, crying stopped, we cooked up some awesome veggie stir fry on brown rice.with a fantastic Viognier...life is a ok.

You can dwell on what sucks, or find a way to cope that isn't full blown drug addiction.

agreed.

[Apex]

It really is.

Smoked a bowl, crying stopped, we cooked up some awesome veggie stir fry on brown rice.with a fantastic Viognier...life is a ok.

You can dwell on what sucks, or find a way to cope that isn't full blown drug addiction.

So much fucking this.

Less moping, more coping.

Blow some sunshine up yer ass and smile once in awhile.