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J-Ho-Fo-Show69 wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:22 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:02 am NW is no-mans land, but man I don't see the appeal to some of the south south Charlotte zips. The roads can't handle even half the traffic coming up from SC
Bro, you get outside 485 and it’s an hour drive no matter where you go. Charlotte is so far behind the north east when it comes to transit and it’s either too hot, too long of a ride, or people flat out refuse to ride their bikes to anything.
I have a hard time remembering people actually work in cities. What I experienced on Providence Rd all hours of the day no matter what day it was, is inexcusable, but I don't know how you'd fix it.

Maybe a light rail that connects the Bowl, Blakeney, Stonecrest, Waverly, Promenade, and the Arboretum. 50% of the traffic in 277 is just going to those places.
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max225 wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 12:52 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 10:02 am NW is no-mans land, but man I don't see the appeal to some of the south south Charlotte zips. The roads can't handle even half the traffic coming up from SC
What’s the difference between north/northwest Charlotte and the south? And they seem to be completely bifurcated as far as value trends ?
South Charlotte is Mountain View, North is Oakland?

Based on that image you shared the richest zip codes are getting even more expensive and others are not. #richgettingricher #RIPmuhtroy
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D Griff wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:35 pm
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What’s the difference between north/northwest Charlotte and the south? And they seem to be completely bifurcated as far as value trends ?
South Charlotte is Mountain View, North is Oakland?

Based on that image you shared the richest zip codes are getting even more expensive and others are not. #richgettingricher #RIPmuhtroy
That makes perfect sense. You guys were behind the curve I.e Cali shit… we had the same pattern 6 months ago. Now everything is dumping … we had appreciation in the highest zip codes and best schools until May this year and then bam … hammer dropped and now they are correcting as well. Oakland been correcting since 2013
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:31 pm
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Bro, you get outside 485 and it’s an hour drive no matter where you go. Charlotte is so far behind the north east when it comes to transit and it’s either too hot, too long of a ride, or people flat out refuse to ride their bikes to anything.
I have a hard time remembering people actually work in cities. What I experienced on Providence Rd all hours of the day no matter what day it was, is inexcusable, but I don't know how you'd fix it.

Maybe a light rail that connects the Bowl, Blakeney, Stonecrest, Waverly, Promenade, and the Arboretum. 50% of the traffic in 277 is just going to those places.
It’s pretty impossible to fix short term, you just have to slowly chip away at it. The biggest issue is zoning laws that force SFH and tons of parking and disallow businesses to be IN neighborhoods. Like if your local HT is on your block, most people would walk there. 90% of people will do the most convenient and/or cheapest thing.
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I find it wild that three friends on my street all drive to work at the banks downtown and spend hundreds per month on parking when it’s a very easy and pleasant bike ride OR light rail from here.
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D Griff wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:53 pm I find it wild that three friends on my street all drive to work at the banks downtown and spend hundreds per month on parking when it’s a very easy and pleasant bike ride OR light rail from here.
I already spend over a $100 for my apartment parking garage, if my work does the same car is staying at home or streetpark
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D Griff wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:52 pm
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I have a hard time remembering people actually work in cities. What I experienced on Providence Rd all hours of the day no matter what day it was, is inexcusable, but I don't know how you'd fix it.

Maybe a light rail that connects the Bowl, Blakeney, Stonecrest, Waverly, Promenade, and the Arboretum. 50% of the traffic in 277 is just going to those places.
It’s pretty impossible to fix short term, you just have to slowly chip away at it. The biggest issue is zoning laws that force SFH and tons of parking and disallow businesses to be IN neighborhoods. Like if your local HT is on your block, most people would walk there. 90% of people will do the most convenient and/or cheapest thing.
My HT was .7mi and it was just SLIGHTLY farther than I ever wanted to walk with a couple bags of groceries. I did see a couple older ladies taking their 3 wheel bikes with baskets back and forth, but dodging the Uruses and G63s would sketch me out.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:40 am
D Griff wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:52 pm

It’s pretty impossible to fix short term, you just have to slowly chip away at it. The biggest issue is zoning laws that force SFH and tons of parking and disallow businesses to be IN neighborhoods. Like if your local HT is on your block, most people would walk there. 90% of people will do the most convenient and/or cheapest thing.
My HT was .7mi and it was just SLIGHTLY farther than I ever wanted to walk with a couple bags of groceries. I did see a couple older ladies taking their 3 wheel bikes with baskets back and forth, but dodging the Uruses and G63s would sketch me out.
Is traffic better at the new pad?
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D Griff wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:31 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 11:40 am

My HT was .7mi and it was just SLIGHTLY farther than I ever wanted to walk with a couple bags of groceries. I did see a couple older ladies taking their 3 wheel bikes with baskets back and forth, but dodging the Uruses and G63s would sketch me out.
Is traffic better at the new pad?
Yeah it's not even comparable. Obviously when I leave for work there's no traffic regardless of where I live, but on the weekends I'm much more likely to get in the car and go somewhere to eat because the roads aren't gridlocked with luxury SUVs
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:50 pm
D Griff wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:31 pm

Is traffic better at the new pad?
Yeah it's not even comparable. Obviously when I leave for work there's no traffic regardless of where I live, but on the weekends I'm much more likely to get in the car and go somewhere to eat because the roads aren't gridlocked with luxury SUVs
You guys have traffic on weekends?
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max225 wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:08 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 12:50 pm

Yeah it's not even comparable. Obviously when I leave for work there's no traffic regardless of where I live, but on the weekends I'm much more likely to get in the car and go somewhere to eat because the roads aren't gridlocked with luxury SUVs
You guys have traffic on weekends?
I consider "traffic" as you'll wait multiple cycles of a traffic light to get through it.

The yellow just to leave my old neighborhood would probably be 2-3 cycles of a light depending on which direction.

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Some people are used to it, but for the first 25+ years of my life I didn't experience this so I run out of patience quickly. You'll probably laugh me right out of this discussion :lolol:
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:40 pm
max225 wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:08 pm

You guys have traffic on weekends?
I consider "traffic" as you'll wait multiple cycles of a traffic light to get through it.

The yellow just to leave my old neighborhood would probably be 2-3 cycles of a light depending on which direction.

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Some people are used to it, but for the first 25+ years of my life I didn't experience this so I run out of patience quickly. You'll probably laugh me right out of this discussion :lolol:
I also hate it, hence why I don’t really drive… the wife has mentioned that the traffic down there is wild when she leaves work as well. She is usually done at 3:30 PM too, not even full on rush hour yet.
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D Griff wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:38 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:40 pm

I consider "traffic" as you'll wait multiple cycles of a traffic light to get through it.

The yellow just to leave my old neighborhood would probably be 2-3 cycles of a light depending on which direction.

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Some people are used to it, but for the first 25+ years of my life I didn't experience this so I run out of patience quickly. You'll probably laugh me right out of this discussion :lolol:
I also hate it, hence why I don’t really drive… the wife has mentioned that the traffic down there is wild when she leaves work as well. She is usually done at 3:30 PM too, not even full on rush hour yet.
It seems to get better closer to the city, as I've never thought it was that bad going to your house or Jeremy's, but that was always on the weekend?
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:41 pm
D Griff wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:38 pm

I also hate it, hence why I don’t really drive… the wife has mentioned that the traffic down there is wild when she leaves work as well. She is usually done at 3:30 PM too, not even full on rush hour yet.
It seems to get better closer to the city, as I've never thought it was that bad going to your house or Jeremy's, but that was always on the weekend?
I think it is better up here, but it's still very bad, especially from 3-7 PM during the week. Things are closer together here, so less distance to drive. Plus that whole Providence, Matthews, Marvin, Waxhaw area was basically the country 20-30 years ago, so you have all these small winding two lane roads that no carry a ton of volume post 485 development and it's a hot mess.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:41 pm
D Griff wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:38 pm

I also hate it, hence why I don’t really drive… the wife has mentioned that the traffic down there is wild when she leaves work as well. She is usually done at 3:30 PM too, not even full on rush hour yet.
It seems to get better closer to the city, as I've never thought it was that bad going to your house or Jeremy's, but that was always on the weekend?
The walkability score there is probably negative 20. So when you have zero other options except to drive? You induce a situation where everyone drives everywhere, even for simple trips.

When you get closer to Dan and I, you have the ability to walk, bike, or take the light rail. The options open up space on the road so it doesn’t seem as congested, even though the density here is higher.
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D Griff wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:53 pm I find it wild that three friends on my street all drive to work at the banks downtown and spend hundreds per month on parking when it’s a very easy and pleasant bike ride OR light rail from here.
Biking is tough because if they have to dress professionally, it’s a pain in the ass to either change and/or shower once at work.

Now, not taking the light rail, when they could easily bike or drive their car to the park and ride? Inexcusable.
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J-Ho-Fo-Show69 wrote: Mon Jul 14, 2025 9:07 pm
D Griff wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2025 5:53 pm I find it wild that three friends on my street all drive to work at the banks downtown and spend hundreds per month on parking when it’s a very easy and pleasant bike ride OR light rail from here.
Biking is tough because if they have to dress professionally, it’s a pain in the ass to either change and/or shower once at work.

Now, not taking the light rail, when they could easily bike or drive their car to the park and ride? Inexcusable.
Fair points. I have biked in professional clothes many times four miles though, it's NBD, people in other countries do it all the time. Also, all those banks have on site gyms where one could shower/get ready.

But I digress, I imagine they've never even thought about not driving, it's just the normal thing to most people.
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We've had quite a week with the house purchase! Inspection came back with some concerning things, mainly the roof is OLD (we could tell when we looked at the house and knew this) and the HVAC has some condensation on lines in the attic (TBD). Additionally the screened in porch has some issues/not built to code.

My BIL works in insurance and based on records he has access to thinks the roof is original from 1989, but impossible to know for sure, kind of wild. HVAC... well, Jeremy's contractor recommended replacing the system as we were negotiating with the sellers, but TBD if that will be needed or not.

We ended up settling on them giving us $8300, it was all pretty darn stressful but it didn't seem worth backing out on the :dill: for given we'd possibly lose our due diligence or need to pay a lawyer a bunch of dough.

Here's to hoping the HVAC is salvageable, but very glad that's over and now starting to get excited. This location, garage, screened in porch/outdoor area, and two stories/more space will all be a nice upgrade.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:28 pm We've had quite a week with the house purchase! Inspection came back with some concerning things, mainly the roof is OLD (we could tell when we looked at the house and knew this) and the HVAC has some condensation on lines in the attic (TBD). Additionally the screened in porch has some issues/not built to code.

My BIL works in insurance and based on records he has access to thinks the roof is original from 1989, but impossible to know for sure, kind of wild. HVAC... well, Jeremy's contractor recommended replacing the system as we were negotiating with the sellers, but TBD if that will be needed or not.

We ended up settling on them giving us $8300, it was all pretty darn stressful but it didn't seem worth backing out on the :dill: for given we'd possibly lose our due diligence or need to pay a lawyer a bunch of dough.

Here's to hoping the HVAC is salvageable, but very glad that's over and now starting to get excited. This location, garage, screened in porch/outdoor area, and two stories/more space will all be a nice upgrade.
How much is a new roof? HVAC is what it is, systems wear out and die. Getting a new HVAC is a lot "funner" that getting a roof......there is usually a NOTICEABLE improvement in performance/comfort.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:41 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:28 pm We've had quite a week with the house purchase! Inspection came back with some concerning things, mainly the roof is OLD (we could tell when we looked at the house and knew this) and the HVAC has some condensation on lines in the attic (TBD). Additionally the screened in porch has some issues/not built to code.

My BIL works in insurance and based on records he has access to thinks the roof is original from 1989, but impossible to know for sure, kind of wild. HVAC... well, Jeremy's contractor recommended replacing the system as we were negotiating with the sellers, but TBD if that will be needed or not.

We ended up settling on them giving us $8300, it was all pretty darn stressful but it didn't seem worth backing out on the :dill: for given we'd possibly lose our due diligence or need to pay a lawyer a bunch of dough.

Here's to hoping the HVAC is salvageable, but very glad that's over and now starting to get excited. This location, garage, screened in porch/outdoor area, and two stories/more space will all be a nice upgrade.
How much is a new roof? HVAC is what it is, systems wear out and die. Getting a new HVAC is a lot "funner" that getting a roof......there is usually a NOTICEABLE improvement in performance/comfort.
Roof is like $10K. New HVAC system seems to be $10-12K.

The roof should probably get done sooner than later. The HVAC thing remains to be seen, I'm not opposed to dropping a couple grand to keep the system going and hoping that lasts a number of years, but we shall see.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:58 pm
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How much is a new roof? HVAC is what it is, systems wear out and die. Getting a new HVAC is a lot "funner" that getting a roof......there is usually a NOTICEABLE improvement in performance/comfort.
Roof is like $10K. New HVAC system seems to be $10-12K.

The roof should probably get done sooner than later. The HVAC thing remains to be seen, I'm not opposed to dropping a couple grand to keep the system going and hoping that lasts a number of years, but we shall see.
keep/repair the system in there if its working, the new gas and new systems are retarted expensive right now.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:58 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Jul 16, 2025 4:41 pm

How much is a new roof? HVAC is what it is, systems wear out and die. Getting a new HVAC is a lot "funner" that getting a roof......there is usually a NOTICEABLE improvement in performance/comfort.
Roof is like $10K. New HVAC system seems to be $10-12K.

The roof should probably get done sooner than later. The HVAC thing remains to be seen, I'm not opposed to dropping a couple grand to keep the system going and hoping that lasts a number of years, but we shall see.
Ah the joys of the house iNveStMenT. Was all of this not disclosed prior ? These seem fairly basic items that go wrong ….

Prices here maybe a bit higher… prob closer to 20k for roof, the ac seems like you should just keep running till it pops… then replace the unit for 8-12k…
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Griff, it's a bit of a roll of the dice, but you could do what we did. We needed a roof for a while and we basically waited for a bad hail storm and when we got a massive one we called our insurance company and got a $27k roof for free fiddy. We got top of the line shingles with a 50 year warranty so it'll probably be the first and last roof we'll ever need.

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