Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

[max225]

If anything I’m disappointed no one has brought up a V8 vantage manual.

Frankly it’s the perfect car for what I want if I wanted a 3rd car. But once again I’m looking for something more practical and capable of taking the miles and family members on occasion

[golftdibrad1]

If anything I’m disappointed no one has brought up a V8 vantage manual.

Frankly it’s the perfect car for what I want if I wanted a 3rd car. But once again I’m looking for something more practical and capable of taking the miles and family members on occasion

Considered it but they are kinda out your stated budget for one that would meet maxspec™

[D Griff]

Max hates convertibles and fun in general.

However, I agree this would be an EXCELLENT option for him.

A lotus elise / exige (provided he can fit) is another great option this space. Fun sports car thats virtually depreciation proof.

Lotus Elise is actually a decent choice but I think that’s more of a 3rd not second car. I do want to be able to drive it to work on occasion. The Elise is 100% fun and nothing else … I want like 50% fun 25 comfort and 25 % practicality if that makes sense

Having driven an Elise, you're 100% correct on this. It is actually pretty spacious for tall people though, in that sense that we fit, not that it's comfy.

S2000 is def tiny inside, it's one that works for me just barely and I think you've got 2-3 more inches, so not surprised.

[D Griff]

If anything I’m disappointed no one has brought up a V8 vantage manual.

Frankly it’s the perfect car for what I want if I wanted a 3rd car. But once again I’m looking for something more practical and capable of taking the miles and family members on occasion

I always forget about these... but man, if you don't want to deal with a 15 year old Porsche, can't imagine an Aston fitting the bill. I'm sure it's much worse to own.

[CaleDeRoo]

If anything I’m disappointed no one has brought up a V8 vantage manual.

Frankly it’s the perfect car for what I want if I wanted a 3rd car. But once again I’m looking for something more practical and capable of taking the miles and family members on occasion

The 4.7 Vantage is my attainable dream car

[D Griff]

If anything I’m disappointed no one has brought up a V8 vantage manual.

Frankly it’s the perfect car for what I want if I wanted a 3rd car. But once again I’m looking for something more practical and capable of taking the miles and family members on occasion

The 4.7 Vantage is my attainable dream car

[Melon2.0]

I'm 6'-2" ~190lbs.
I fit better in a Suzuki Cappuccino than I do in an S2K.
The worst one yet, Countach. It's way too small.

[Melon2.0]

If anything I’m disappointed no one has brought up a V8 vantage manual.

Frankly it’s the perfect car for what I want if I wanted a 3rd car. But once again I’m looking for something more practical and capable of taking the miles and family members on occasion

The 4.7 Vantage is my attainable dream car

Those Astons are art on wheels.

[max225]

If anything I’m disappointed no one has brought up a V8 vantage manual.

Frankly it’s the perfect car for what I want if I wanted a 3rd car. But once again I’m looking for something more practical and capable of taking the miles and family members on occasion

Considered it but they are kinda out your stated budget for one that would meet maxspec™

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... ref=search

Under $50k and under 40k miles. Seems like a to me.

Again we’re talking fantasy land right now but yea.

I bet the gti actually drives far better 99% of the time though.

But the Aston would essentially be reserved for that 1%
Travesty to say but it is what it is.

[max225]

If anything I’m disappointed no one has brought up a V8 vantage manual.

Frankly it’s the perfect car for what I want if I wanted a 3rd car. But once again I’m looking for something more practical and capable of taking the miles and family members on occasion

The 4.7 Vantage is my attainable dream car

[D Griff]

Considered it but they are kinda out your stated budget for one that would meet maxspec™

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... ref=search

Under $50k and under 40k miles. Seems like a to me.

Again we’re talking fantasy land right now but yea.

I bet the gti actually drives far better 99% of the time though.

But the Aston would essentially be reserved for that 1%
Travesty to say but it is what it is.

Man, that thing is pretty amazing. Kind of worth the roll of the dice, but I hear you, I probably wouldn't do it either. We're not all brave like Cale sending it in a DD 275K mile Audi.

The flip side is that the Aston would at least be pretty nice on the highway, you could commute in it.

[D Griff]

I'm 6'-2" ~190lbs.
I fit better in a Suzuki Cappuccino than I do in an S2K.
The worst one yet, Countach. It's way too small.

Have you been in a Countache? I've only seen on IRL one time.

[Johnny_P]

Considered it but they are kinda out your stated budget for one that would meet maxspec™

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... ref=search

Under $50k and under 40k miles. Seems like a to me.

Again we’re talking fantasy land right now but yea.

I bet the gti actually drives far better 99% of the time though.

But the Aston would essentially be reserved for that 1%
Travesty to say but it is what it is.

On one hand I don’t think it’ll drop super fast at this point. On the other hand I don’t think there are many potential buyers for these. I think most people go straight to a 911 and dont even cross shop this.

[max225]

To elaborate a little bit on the current picture and situation.

It may seem strange to some but I have near 0 interest in piling on MILES on a special low slung sports car and or driving it daily.

Sure growing up, when I turned 21 I bought myself a C5 corvette and proceeded to daily it .. I mean DAILY. Put 15k miles on it in my first year before coming to my senses. Rain or shine I took that thing to work, to the canyons to street park in SF, everywhere.

It is NOT how I want to spend my time in a vehicle right now. Rough, cramped, loud, scrapy McScrape, fuel inefficient etc. I think there is a time and a place for that and that time is not NOW for me.

I’m currently spending 99.9% of my time driving a BMW minivan with 550hp. It’s fast and it’s comfortable and it does an amazing job at what it is designed to do.

What am I looking for ?

I’m looking for something smaller, lighter, a bit more fun, light ish on the wallet (sub 50k otd), that doesn’t require wrenching, and doesn’t beat me up if I do decide to pile on the miles.

I think the answer has been found. I know some y’all mean very well and are suggesting, more fun, more unique vehicles but they simply don’t fit the current “need”.

We go to sporty and that thing will end up parked causing me count the penny’s because it’s sitting there with no use but still requiring maintenance and insurance. You go too boring ?! And you end up exactly where I am now and is the point. It has to be a balance.

My situation like everyone’s changes over time and it does prompt some sort of change in vehicle for me … likely going to be doing this again if/when the woman finds a job and the kid gets older and more independent.

[Johnny_P]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... ref=search

Under $50k and under 40k miles. Seems like a to me.

Again we’re talking fantasy land right now but yea.

I bet the gti actually drives far better 99% of the time though.

But the Aston would essentially be reserved for that 1%
Travesty to say but it is what it is.

Man, that thing is pretty amazing. Kind of worth the roll of the dice, but I hear you, I probably wouldn't do it either. We're not all brave like Cale sending it in a DD 275K mile Audi.

The flip side is that the Aston would at least be pretty nice on the highway, you could commute in it.

Problem is these are garage queen type cars. Paint chips from highway driving behind Cletus in his 2004 Silverado with one working tail light will tank the “value” of it. I think.

[max225]

Man, that thing is pretty amazing. Kind of worth the roll of the dice, but I hear you, I probably wouldn't do it either. We're not all brave like Cale sending it in a DD 275K mile Audi.

The flip side is that the Aston would at least be pretty nice on the highway, you could commute in it.

Problem is these are garage queen type cars. Paint chips from highway driving behind Cletus in his 2004 Silverado with one working tail light will tank the “value” of it. I think.

it’s the car you get for 3000 miles a year of “weekend date nights and canyon dates with friends”

[Johnny_P]

To elaborate a little bit on the current picture and situation.

It may seem strange to some but I have near 0 interest in piling on MILES on a special low slung sports car and or driving it daily.

Sure growing up, when I turned 21 I bought myself a C5 corvette and proceeded to daily it .. I mean DAILY. Put 15k miles on it in my first year before coming to my senses. Rain or shine I took that thing to work, to the canyons to street park in SF, everywhere.

It is NOT how I want to spend my time in a vehicle right now. Rough, cramped, loud, scrapy McScrape, fuel inefficient etc. I think there is a time and a place for that and that time is not NOW for me.

I’m currently spending 99.9% of my time driving a BMW minivan with 550hp. It’s fast and it’s comfortable and it does an amazing job at what it is designed to do.

What am I looking for ?

I’m looking for something smaller, lighter, a bit more fun, light ish on the wallet (sub 50k otd), that doesn’t require wrenching, and doesn’t beat me up if I do decide to pile on the miles.

I think the answer has been found. I know some y’all mean very well and are suggesting, more fun, more unique vehicles but they simply don’t fit the current “need”.

We go to sporty and that thing will end up parked causing me count the penny’s because it’s sitting there with no use but still requiring maintenance and insurance. You go too boring ?! And you end up exactly where I am now and is the point. It has to be a balance.

My situation like everyone’s changes over time and it does prompt some sort of change in vehicle for me … likely going to be doing this again if/when the woman finds a job and the kid gets older and more independent.

I think a GTI is a fine choice. They’ve always felt pretty nice, with a good balance of sport versus comfort, and they’re not total putters. Decent back seat too. Like they don’t feel like shitboxes.

If I didn’t care about mpg and fuel costs I’d have gone with an Audi or BMW I think. But the GTI has always kind of felt like it’s in that class of car just at a lower price of entry.

You getting the black one?

[Johnny_P]

Problem is these are garage queen type cars. Paint chips from highway driving behind Cletus in his 2004 Silverado with one working tail light will tank the “value” of it. I think.

it’s the car you get for 3000 miles a year of “weekend date nights and canyon dates with friends”

Yeah these would be pretty firmly in the 3rd car category.

[golftdibrad1]

Considered it but they are kinda out your stated budget for one that would meet maxspec™

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... ref=search

Under $50k and under 40k miles. Seems like a to me.

Again we’re talking fantasy land right now but yea.

I bet the gti actually drives far better 99% of the time though.

But the Aston would essentially be reserved for that 1%
Travesty to say but it is what it is.

[Gberg2119]

Comes out my “stalling” may have been due to the overzealous hill hold assist … others are bitching about it… weird cuz I haven’t stalled a manual in a long time

I always thought hill hold was very sticky in both my Mk7 and 7.5 but fine in my Mk6. The hill hold is fine in the BMW as well.

[Gberg2119]

maxxxxxx
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2005- ... a-coupe-37

ever think about panamera?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2013- ... a-turbo-11

Back to the good ol poorsche Argument.

I actually looked at fancy grand coupes
AMG gt53
Panamera
Rs5
They are all 50k+ for a non ragged ok example and will continue to depreciate like crazy. I have near 0 interest in a high mile (50k+) German car.

Speaking of fake AMG's, a buddy of mine just got a GLE53 "coupe" suv and it came with sliding calipers up front. Sliders on a $100k suv!

[Johnny_P]

Comes out my “stalling” may have been due to the overzealous hill hold assist … others are bitching about it… weird cuz I haven’t stalled a manual in a long time

I always thought hill hold was very sticky in both my Mk7 and 7.5 but fine in my Mk6. The hill hold is fine in the BMW as well.

Was it on in your R? I thought that was a very easy car to drive.

[D Griff]

To elaborate a little bit on the current picture and situation.

It may seem strange to some but I have near 0 interest in piling on MILES on a special low slung sports car and or driving it daily.

Sure growing up, when I turned 21 I bought myself a C5 corvette and proceeded to daily it .. I mean DAILY. Put 15k miles on it in my first year before coming to my senses. Rain or shine I took that thing to work, to the canyons to street park in SF, everywhere.

It is NOT how I want to spend my time in a vehicle right now. Rough, cramped, loud, scrapy McScrape, fuel inefficient etc. I think there is a time and a place for that and that time is not NOW for me.

I’m currently spending 99.9% of my time driving a BMW minivan with 550hp. It’s fast and it’s comfortable and it does an amazing job at what it is designed to do.

What am I looking for ?

I’m looking for something smaller, lighter, a bit more fun, light ish on the wallet (sub 50k otd), that doesn’t require wrenching, and doesn’t beat me up if I do decide to pile on the miles.

I think the answer has been found. I know some y’all mean very well and are suggesting, more fun, more unique vehicles but they simply don’t fit the current “need”.

We go to sporty and that thing will end up parked causing me count the penny’s because it’s sitting there with no use but still requiring maintenance and insurance. You go too boring ?! And you end up exactly where I am now and is the point. It has to be a balance.

My situation like everyone’s changes over time and it does prompt some sort of change in vehicle for me … likely going to be doing this again if/when the woman finds a job and the kid gets older and more independent.

I think a GTI is a fine choice. They’ve always felt pretty nice, with a good balance of sport versus comfort, and they’re not total putters. Decent back seat too. Like they don’t feel like shitboxes.

If I didn’t care about mpg and fuel costs I’d have gone with an Audi or BMW I think. But the GTI has always kind of felt like it’s in that class of car just at a lower price of entry.

You getting the black one?

Knowing now what your actual goals are, GTI is pretty dece. They're nice cars. I think a GTI is a bit more fun than a 3 series or Audi that isn't modded/top trip/M.

I'd still go for the Hype R as that's a car I've coveted for a long time and it feels a lot more special, but they're both solid choices. Get what you pay for, get something cooler/more special if you're paying more.

[D Griff]

Hill hold in my was super aggressive. It's really a non issue in the 86 as well as my BMW. The just didn't really roll back as much, I guess because the sticky meats had so much rolling resistance?

[Gberg2119]

I always thought hill hold was very sticky in both my Mk7 and 7.5 but fine in my Mk6. The hill hold is fine in the BMW as well.

Was it on in your R? I thought that was a very easy car to drive.

Probably not. I had it off the majority of the time because I found it annoying. The good thing is that it was just a button behind the parking brake so if I ever wanted to turn it back on it was just a button press and not buried in the infotainment somewhere.