Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

[D Griff]

Guys, have y'all been to OH? It is the 7th most populous state in the US...

Is 7th place supposed to mean something

I was curious about it, as I wanted to see if it was truly bad or if places were kind of alright. But I don’t have friends or fam there and never had the need/desire to go.

I mean, I don't think it's a contest. But it's not like there aren't other Bentleys or high end autos there. Loads of people both rich and poor. Cincinnati and Columbus are both pretty cool cities. Cleveland is more what you'd expect if you're a flyover naysayer.

[MrH42]

Guys, have y'all been to OH? It is the 7th most populous state in the US...

Clearly they haven't...

Everyone acts like Ohio is basically like Idaho but with corn instead of potatoes. There are 3 giant metro areas

[dubshow]

Guys, have y'all been to OH? It is the 7th most populous state in the US...

i drove up to the south part years ago. and been to Cincinnati. Its a large bland state. 3/7.

[D Griff]

Guys, have y'all been to OH? It is the 7th most populous state in the US...

Clearly they haven't...

Everyone acts like Ohio is basically like Idaho but with corn instead of potatoes. There are 3 giant metro areas

Nothing like Californians, New Yorkers, and Texans acting like the rest of the US isn't even worth seeing.

Obviously if you're not in CA, TX, NY, or FL you're too poor to own anything but a Corolla or aging F150.

[D Griff]

I've spent a lot of time in OH over the years working there since 2014. Lots of great things about it. Cities with awesome waterfronts, culture, food, woods, hills with driving roads, you name it.

[D Griff]

I'd say the one state where all of these assumptions are really true is Missishiti.

[SAWCE]

I’ve heard Cincinnati is cool as fuck. Only draw Ohio has ever had for me is going to Columbus to see the Arnold classic though. But I’m boring and don’t have any interest in recreational travel.

[golftdibrad1]

I'd say the one state where all of these assumptions are really true is Missishiti.

yea... the wife is from MS. its meh. culture is borrowed. cities meh. lots of poorness. lots of woods. cost of living is really low however. Thats really the only upside.

[CaleDeRoo]

Not hard for people to find when them and all their rich friends buy and sell expensive cars every year. That part doesn't REALLY matter, but I have no reason not to believe him.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rJyLj4 ... y-bentayga

link for easy clicking. that thing is sexy af.

It's honestly fucking sick.

[CaleDeRoo]

I’d be curious what the 3rd owner bought it for in november, last yr

I think he said 105. Bought and registered through his business, for his wife. "My wife didn't like the attention and was too scared to park it near other cars. She asked for a X5 instead like all her friends have".

I actually saw her yesterday in her white over brown X5M.


Edit: fuckin Dan

[dubshow]

I’d be curious what the 3rd owner bought it for in november, last yr

I think he said 105. Bought and registered through his business, for his wife. "My wife didn't like the attention and was too scared to park it near other cars. She asked for a X5 instead like all her friends have".

I actually saw her yesterday in her white over brown X5M.


Edit: fuckin Dan

our local resident rich car guy (10x ferraris, enzo, pagani, p1, etc) drives his shit all over town. His name is Dan too. His cars show up in local car groups posting all over. parking in gravel lots etc with young kids like ZOMG YOU CANT DO THAT. And the old guys are like Dan gonna Dan.

[CaleDeRoo]

Oh my edit was for Dan nailing the guess on what the seller paid a year ago.

Those types of guys are cool.

[max225]

Oh my edit was for Dan nailing the guess on what the seller paid a year ago.

Those types of guys are cool.

It was a 5/7 guess.

[dubshow]

Oh my edit was for Dan nailing the guess on what the seller paid a year ago.

Those types of guys are cool.

he is griff.

[max225]

Clearly they haven't...

Everyone acts like Ohio is basically like Idaho but with corn instead of potatoes. There are 3 giant metro areas

Nothing like Californians, New Yorkers, and Texans acting like the rest of the US isn't even worth seeing.

Obviously if you're not in CA, TX, NY, or FL you're too poor to own anything but a Corolla or aging F150.

Why are you reaching here? You mentioned something like OH is the 7th most populous state. The comment in return was that it was something not quite aspirational. That doesn't really sell it as anything special. Like finishing 7th in a race. As mentioned I am sure parts of Ohio are cool, but that doesn't make it BFE.

Ohio is the 38th/50 in the states as far as income so while I am sure there are "rich" areas it is certainly not a prime target for a Bentley Owner.

[D Griff]

Nothing like Californians, New Yorkers, and Texans acting like the rest of the US isn't even worth seeing.

Obviously if you're not in CA, TX, NY, or FL you're too poor to own anything but a Corolla or aging F150.

Why are you reaching here? You mentioned something like OH is the 7th most populous state. The comment in return was that it was something not quite aspirational. That doesn't really sell it as anything special. Like finishing 7th in a race. As mentioned I am sure parts of Ohio are cool, but that doesn't make it BFE.

Ohio is the 38th/50 in the states as far as income so while I am sure there are "rich" areas it is certainly not a prime target for a Bentley Owner.

I'm reaching no more than you are... occasionally the comments that everyone outside of CA is too poor to do XYZ get old and I'm just pointing out that they are utterly baseless.

[max225]

Why are you reaching here? You mentioned something like OH is the 7th most populous state. The comment in return was that it was something not quite aspirational. That doesn't really sell it as anything special. Like finishing 7th in a race. As mentioned I am sure parts of Ohio are cool, but that doesn't make it BFE.

Ohio is the 38th/50 in the states as far as income so while I am sure there are "rich" areas it is certainly not a prime target for a Bentley Owner.

I'm reaching no more than you are... occasionally the comments that everyone outside of CA is too poor to do XYZ get old and I'm just pointing out that they are utterly baseless.

No one said that. I said Ohio Bentley ownership is odd. So yes you're reaching.

[D Griff]

Oh my edit was for Dan nailing the guess on what the seller paid a year ago.

Those types of guys are cool.

Wow so $3K/month... that is a no from me dog.

[D Griff]

Wow driving a Bentley in Ohio takes same balls

Quoting to fact check...

Why does this take balls? And you've never been to the state of OH.

I could see a lot about this taking balls - buying a car that depreciates $3K/month takes balls. Buying something that will probably have insane electrical issues takes balls. I just don't see how which state it is is relevant. This is OH, not a third world country.

[dubshow]

[Gberg2119]

I am pretty convinced after listening to Doug's pod that no reserve is indeed the best way. Those dudes obviously have the market data. If you can't list it for no reserve, you can't afford to sell it to 'upgrade'.

I'm not sure what the point/end game is of clinging to the idea of a high reserve/value when the car just isn't there. It's only going to keep going down. Keep it and drive it or accept that it's not worth what you want it to be worth and take what you can.

For most people, they can only justify a move if the numbers work out. Even if they have plenty of money, like I'm guessing the Bentley guy does, there's still some math that has to work. The reserve just allows you to set the floor for the maneuver.

I don't think most people are just done with a vehicle and will just sell it for whatever. There's always a point when it makes more sense to keep it.

I believe that no reserve does likely bring in more action, but I don't think it's meaningful at all. I would have a hard time just throwing a car out there with no reserve, especially with something like this Bentley. If it was something super common where there are transactions happening daily in volume, then it's a much safer bet. But something as unique as this, it's hard to determine market value prior to listing and is a much bigger risk to list with no reserve.

At the time of selling my R, similar ones were listed in the $38-40k range. I was hoping for $38k because it was pretty mint and had an extra set of OE wheels. C&B wanted the reserve at $34k so we split it and set it at $36k. Ended up selling for just above that but when you factor in their fees plus shipping the guy probably did end up spending in that $38-40k range. IIRC trade offer from the was $33k.

I never considered no reserve . You've gotta hope you get that one specific buyer on your auction. Wasn't willing to take the chance.

[dubshow]

Wow driving a Bentley in Ohio takes same balls

Quoting to fact check...

Why does this take balls? And you've never been to the state of OH.

I could see a lot about this taking balls - buying a car that depreciates $3K/month takes balls. Buying something that will probably have insane electrical issues takes balls. I just don't see how which state it is is relevant. This is OH, not a third world country.

i stand corrected. there is a bentley service/dealer in columbus. My statements are retracted.

https://www.bentleycolumbus.com/

interesting. Meanwhile ATL or Austin is nearest to the swamp. We suck again!

[max225]

Wow driving a Bentley in Ohio takes same balls

Quoting to fact check...

Why does this take balls? And you've never been to the state of OH.

I could see a lot about this taking balls - buying a car that depreciates $3K/month takes balls. Buying something that will probably have insane electrical issues takes balls. I just don't see how which state it is is relevant. This is OH, not a third world country.

It takes balls in the same ways it takes balls to drive a lifted F350 diesel dually in SF. Doesn't matter if someone "Visited" the state. The data on it is pretty clear.

[dubshow]

Quoting to fact check...

Why does this take balls? And you've never been to the state of OH.

I could see a lot about this taking balls - buying a car that depreciates $3K/month takes balls. Buying something that will probably have insane electrical issues takes balls. I just don't see how which state it is is relevant. This is OH, not a third world country.

It takes balls in the same ways it takes balls to drive a lifted F350 diesel dually in SF. Doesn't matter if someone "Visited" the state. The data on it is pretty clear.

homie, stand down. They have a ton of luxo dealers in Columbus. its a small bubble within a large state.

Not worth Max'ing out on this topic.

[D Griff]

Quoting to fact check...

Why does this take balls? And you've never been to the state of OH.

I could see a lot about this taking balls - buying a car that depreciates $3K/month takes balls. Buying something that will probably have insane electrical issues takes balls. I just don't see how which state it is is relevant. This is OH, not a third world country.

i stand corrected. there is a bentley service/dealer in columbus. My statements are retracted.

https://www.bentleycolumbus.com/

interesting. Meanwhile ATL or Austin is nearest to the swamp. We suck again!

I think it comes down to population really. Columbus is pretty large, a lot bigger than New Orleans or Baton Rouge.

I the swamp in its own way. Such great food, hospitality, culture, etc.