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Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times
- J-Ho-Fo-Show69
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- golftdibrad1
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Heh. I call it how I see it. I could maximize confusion with a 'Libertarians for Trump' sticker, a 'y'all means all' sticker, and some variation of MOLAN LABE/come and take it.
The guy that brought a 981.2 cockster s even said something along the lines of "its slower, but after driving it, I get it"
Desertbreh wrote: I'm happy for Brad because nobody jerks it to the Miata harder on this forum and that is the Crown Prince of Miatas.D Griff wrote: Inserting 'nobody jerks it harder to the Miata than Brad' quote.
- golftdibrad1
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Lotus has become stratospherically expensive and un-obtanioum, and heavy(er). They forgot about simplify then add lightness.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:04 ambut he said pinnacle sports car... I get the argument that hyper cars and such aren't really sports cars, hence the Spyder. That is pretty pinnacle to me. I do think there's an argument for a Lotus though. I'm
on the C8 as they're quite big and edging more to the super car area, but Corvettes also. Having owned a Miata and a Corvette, the Corvette was just like... a fast Miata. I think if given the opportunity, I'd get a Corvette again before a Miata. I'm also tall
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I think my comment revolves around new shit being too stiff, too fast, too much grip, too uncomfortable, too wide, too complicated, too expensive, just TOO MUCH. I mean is all that shit you listed bad cars? no. But they take away alot of that sporting fun aspect of a car by both taking you to go to jail speeds before you can explore the limits of grip and having a bad outcome on the other side due to said speed should the loose nut behind the wheel get it wrong. Combine that with the fantastic cost involved and there are a lot of rich assholes out there with more money than skill in very, very, very fast cars.
Corvette did used to be / feel like a bigger faster more rattly miata. I cannot comment on C8 driving dynamics personally but they definitely went for more traditional supercar layout and feedback from reviews suggest it drives like one. Incredible value for the money, but thats still a cheap supercar not a sports car.
The Miata and the 86 do the sports car for the people thing well; its fun as fuck, not over-tired, quick but not fast, and comfortable to use every day. Oh and not closer to 100k than not too. IMHO Miata is better, thats all.
Desertbreh wrote: I'm happy for Brad because nobody jerks it to the Miata harder on this forum and that is the Crown Prince of Miatas.D Griff wrote: Inserting 'nobody jerks it harder to the Miata than Brad' quote.
I mean... I own an 86 and have owned a Miata, I don't disagree, they're great sports cars for regular folks. I certainly don't have the second lightest/simplest car for sale in this country accidentally. I also noted in a thread here recently that my favorite driving memory ever was in a Fiat 124, so I love these things. Pinnacle is just a strong word. All very subjective though, the Miata is definitely a fantastic sports car and great value, especially used.golftdibrad1 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 10:47 amLotus has become stratospherically expensive and un-obtanioum, and heavy(er). They forgot about simplify then add lightness.D Griff wrote: ↑Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:04 am
but he said pinnacle sports car... I get the argument that hyper cars and such aren't really sports cars, hence the Spyder. That is pretty pinnacle to me. I do think there's an argument for a Lotus though. I'm
on the C8 as they're quite big and edging more to the super car area, but Corvettes also. Having owned a Miata and a Corvette, the Corvette was just like... a fast Miata. I think if given the opportunity, I'd get a Corvette again before a Miata. I'm also tall
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I think my comment revolves around new shit being too stiff, too fast, too much grip, too uncomfortable, too wide, too complicated, too expensive, just TOO MUCH. I mean is all that shit you listed bad cars? no. But they take away alot of that sporting fun aspect of a car by both taking you to go to jail speeds before you can explore the limits of grip and having a bad outcome on the other side due to said speed should the loose nut behind the wheel get it wrong. Combine that with the fantastic cost involved and there are a lot of rich assholes out there with more money than skill in very, very, very fast cars.
Corvette did used to be / feel like a bigger faster more rattly miata. I cannot comment on C8 driving dynamics personally but they definitely went for more traditional supercar layout and feedback from reviews suggest it drives like one. Incredible value for the money, but thats still a cheap supercar not a sports car.
The Miata and the 86 do the sports car for the people thing well; its fun as fuck, not over-tired, quick but not fast, and comfortable to use every day. Oh and not closer to 100k than not too. IMHO Miata is better, thats all.
- golftdibrad1
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Desertbreh wrote: I'm happy for Brad because nobody jerks it to the Miata harder on this forum and that is the Crown Prince of Miatas.D Griff wrote: Inserting 'nobody jerks it harder to the Miata than Brad' quote.
- Desertbreh
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- max225
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It was also at 68F when I got back to it despite being out in the sun. Comfort is through the roof.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Mon Aug 05, 2024 11:59 am The appliance holds a lot more wine than them other thangs.

- max225
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I wonder about a couple things. First how reliable those motors are… I know Toyota toyota … but Toyota doesn’t supercharge that motor. And frankly it’s a lazy POS in my truck. And second wonder how lotus worked its “magic” on it.
I think all Emiras were on some sort of legislative hold in the us until now. And they are popping up everywhere.
I really like it but … depreciation may be a concern