Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

[max225]

my 2022 was 48k 35% in 2 motherfucking model years.

And I bet they won't have any issues selling them. Can't forget about adm as well.

I'm assuming the trailhunter will be about the same price too.

Yes they will. But depends on production numbers too. If they make 500 of em, They will find suckers. 5k + doubt it.

The new Tacoma that just launched is already 3k off at many dealers.

[MexicanYarisTK]

Max alarm.

New Tacoma TurdPro is $65k.

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2024 ... ve-review/

:motherofgod:

[Desertbreh]

And I bet they won't have any issues selling them. Can't forget about adm as well.

I'm assuming the trailhunter will be about the same price too.

Yes they will. But depends on production numbers too. If they make 500 of em, They will find suckers. 5k + doubt it.

The new Tacoma that just launched is already 3k off at many dealers.

Four cylinder hybrid truck for $65K. What a time to be alive.

[coogles]

Yes they will. But depends on production numbers too. If they make 500 of em, They will find suckers. 5k + doubt it.

The new Tacoma that just launched is already 3k off at many dealers.

Four cylinder hybrid truck for $65K. What a time to be alive.

Unreal.

[golftdibrad1]

Yes they will. But depends on production numbers too. If they make 500 of em, They will find suckers. 5k + doubt it.

The new Tacoma that just launched is already 3k off at many dealers.

Four cylinder hybrid truck for $65K. What a time to be alive.

and 40k miatas

[max225]

Yes they will. But depends on production numbers too. If they make 500 of em, They will find suckers. 5k + doubt it.

The new Tacoma that just launched is already 3k off at many dealers.

Four cylinder hybrid truck for $65K. What a time to be alive.

You’ve been telling me I’m barking up the wrong tree here. Clearly this is an excellent deal

[max225]

Jason is saying the M3 is pointless now that the NEW model 3 Performance exists. I am how I feel about that... in a way he is right... if you were to actually DRIVE 1k miles a month the Model 3 is far superior... but for tactile feel/manual/looks etc... the M3 is better.

Discuss.

[Desertbreh]

Jason is saying the M3 is pointless now that the NEW model 3 Performance exists. I am how I feel about that... in a way he is right... if you were to actually DRIVE 1k miles a month the Model 3 is far superior... but for tactile feel/manual/looks etc... the M3 is better.

Discuss.

Wait. We are supposed to discuss the pointlessness of the full battle cry of a highly boosted BMW straight 6 with the man pedal because Elon has put bigger electric motors in his cheapest piece of tupperware?
Pretty short discussion.

[MexicanYarisTK]

Four cylinder hybrid truck for $65K. What a time to be alive.

and 40k miatas

New camry starts at $29k, startssss!!!

I remember $30k cars used to be more entry level premium brands

[max225]

Jason is saying the M3 is pointless now that the NEW model 3 Performance exists. I am how I feel about that... in a way he is right... if you were to actually DRIVE 1k miles a month the Model 3 is far superior... but for tactile feel/manual/looks etc... the M3 is better.

Discuss.

Wait. We are supposed to discuss the pointlessness of the full battle cry of a highly boosted BMW straight 6 with the man pedal because Elon has put bigger electric motors in his cheapest piece of tupperware?
Pretty short discussion.

I suppose you missed the big dick brakes, pretty nice seats, adaptive dampers and updated suspension

[CaleDeRoo]

The BEATR has finally left me stranded. I believe it sucked air into the clutch fluid since the pedal just sucks itself to the floor.

[max225]

My neighbor copped one

[wap]

My neighbor copped one

Finally saw one in the wild today. It looked both sci-fi and silly.

[D Griff]

Just odd to me... An auto C5 'vert is a shit tier car. I loved my C5 but 100% because of the 'performance for money'. If you have money, at least get like... a good Corvette? Also, auto C5s are quite slow, my 86 could possibly dust it to 60, your GTI 100% could.

I mean good on him if he doesn't care, but it is a weird ass choice for a billionaire. It has huge appeal for a 25 year old making $50K/year, hence my ownershit

Yeah, mang. Maybe it was his wife's car? He also own(ed?) an old '89 Bronco, so...
But he definitely has some cool car cred.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle ... collection

it’s cool he enjoys it. Makes me proud to have owned a C5 for many years

[D Griff]

Jason is saying the M3 is pointless now that the NEW model 3 Performance exists. I am how I feel about that... in a way he is right... if you were to actually DRIVE 1k miles a month the Model 3 is far superior... but for tactile feel/manual/looks etc... the M3 is better.

Discuss.

Wait. We are supposed to discuss the pointlessness of the full battle cry of a highly boosted BMW straight 6 with the man pedal because Elon has put bigger electric motors in his cheapest piece of tupperware?
Pretty short discussion.

not much to add here. Is this Jason Camisa? I’m convinced he’s paid by Tessie if so. Putting down the same 0-60 or Nurburgring time does not make two vehicles equal. Tessies are fast appliances, not much more. Great dailies for some, but no one is turning around to give it a last look as they walk away in the parking lot.

[Desertbreh]

Wait. We are supposed to discuss the pointlessness of the full battle cry of a highly boosted BMW straight 6 with the man pedal because Elon has put bigger electric motors in his cheapest piece of tupperware?
Pretty short discussion.

not much to add here. Is this Jason Camisa? I’m convinced he’s paid by Tessie if so. Putting down the same 0-60 or Nurburgring time does not make two vehicles equal. Tessies are fast appliances, not much more. Great dailies for some, but no one is turning around to give it a last look as they walk away in the parking lot.

Zero street cred at Pebble Beach.

[Desertbreh]

Wait. We are supposed to discuss the pointlessness of the full battle cry of a highly boosted BMW straight 6 with the man pedal because Elon has put bigger electric motors in his cheapest piece of tupperware?
Pretty short discussion.

I suppose you missed the big dick brakes, pretty nice seats, adaptive dampers and updated suspension

I appreciate that, and I appreciate the 5N, and the quarter million dollar Lucid Sapphire sings to me, but its tough sledding.

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

Just odd to me... An auto C5 'vert is a shit tier car. I loved my C5 but 100% because of the 'performance for money'. If you have money, at least get like... a good Corvette? Also, auto C5s are quite slow, my 86 could possibly dust it to 60, your GTI 100% could.

I mean good on him if he doesn't care, but it is a weird ass choice for a billionaire. It has huge appeal for a 25 year old making $50K/year, hence my ownershit

Yeah, mang. Maybe it was his wife's car? He also own(ed?) an old '89 Bronco, so...
But he definitely has some cool car cred.
https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/lifestyle ... collection

That bronco II kinda slaps! Needs a different color but I fux with it. How hipster of him to get the bronco II.

Also must have a full time mechanic for his Austin Healy.

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

Wait. We are supposed to discuss the pointlessness of the full battle cry of a highly boosted BMW straight 6 with the man pedal because Elon has put bigger electric motors in his cheapest piece of tupperware?
Pretty short discussion.

not much to add here. Is this Jason Camisa? I’m convinced he’s paid by Tessie if so. Putting down the same 0-60 or Nurburgring time does not make two vehicles equal. Tessies are fast appliances, not much more. Great dailies for some, but no one is turning around to give it a last look as they walk away in the parking lot.

[Gberg2119]

Jason is saying the M3 is pointless now that the NEW model 3 Performance exists. I am how I feel about that... in a way he is right... if you were to actually DRIVE 1k miles a month the Model 3 is far superior... but for tactile feel/manual/looks etc... the M3 is better.

Discuss.

Wait. We are supposed to discuss the pointlessness of the full battle cry of a highly boosted BMW straight 6 with the man pedal because Elon has put bigger electric motors in his cheapest piece of tupperware?
Pretty short discussion.

Here's his instagram review for what it's worth. Sure, it looks alright but if there's one positive about it it's the price. $53k for this seems pretty solid while the Ionic 5N is closer to $70k. May lead to epic depreciation of performance ev's.

[Gberg2119]

not much to add here. Is this Jason Camisa? I’m convinced he’s paid by Tessie if so. Putting down the same 0-60 or Nurburgring time does not make two vehicles equal. Tessies are fast appliances, not much more. Great dailies for some, but no one is turning around to give it a last look as they walk away in the parking lot.

[max225]

Yea I don't think anyone is going to read/listen to any of it... They'll see EV and proceeded to shit all over it because reasons.

Camisa specifically said that 0-60 is irrelevant as is the HP # as of late... given the super high EV performance figures for those.

[Gberg2119]

Looks like it has fixed rear calipers.

[D Griff]

Yea I don't think anyone is going to read/listen to any of it... They'll see EV and proceeded to shit all over it because reasons.

Camisa specifically said that 0-60 is irrelevant as is the HP # as of late... given the super high EV performance figures for those.

You of all people who have owned multiple Tessies and an M3 said yourself it's not really a comparison?

The M3 has noises, a manual, sensations, actually looks cool, no epic depreciation, history, C&C cred...

I dunno. Tesla is a better commuter. M3 is a better everything else.

[D Griff]

not much to add here. Is this Jason Camisa? I’m convinced he’s paid by Tessie if so. Putting down the same 0-60 or Nurburgring time does not make two vehicles equal. Tessies are fast appliances, not much more. Great dailies for some, but no one is turning around to give it a last look as they walk away in the parking lot.