Car Talk 6: Best of times and Worst of Times

[max225]

This: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991- ... -turbo-14/

That's surprisingly reasonable for that car.

[coogles]

This: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991- ... -turbo-14/

I these

[D Griff]

This: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991- ... -turbo-14/

That's surprisingly reasonable for that car.

Dare I say, worth the money. That is a current/future classic.

I think the market is finally getting unfucked! (and I lost like $10K on an 86 ).

[max225]

That's surprisingly reasonable for that car.

Dare I say, worth the money. That is a current/future classic.

I think the market is finally getting unfucked! (and I lost like $10K on an 86 ).

It's kind of weird... some vehicles came down... others are holding steady. I.E used porsches are still well above MSRP. Which is

[D Griff]

Dare I say, worth the money. That is a current/future classic.

I think the market is finally getting unfucked! (and I lost like $10K on an 86 ).

It's kind of weird... some vehicles came down... others are holding steady. I.E used porsches are still well above MSRP. Which is

I don't even bother with looking at Porsche #poorlyfe

[Desertbreh]

This: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991- ... -turbo-14/

That's surprisingly reasonable for that car.

Concur.

[max225]

It's kind of weird... some vehicles came down... others are holding steady. I.E used porsches are still well above MSRP. Which is

I don't even bother with looking at Porsche #poorlyfe

I stopped after seeing 170k msrp GT3's that are 3 years old advertised back at 250k as of now.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

I honestly think having a GR86 is truly the way to go. You get plenty of sport car feel/performance (Great brakes, great handling super light weight) in a package that you can use.
Yes the local drunken milf won't go home with you after having 5 skinny margaritas. But who gives a fuck you can actually have fun and not pay $1699 for an oil change annually. And take out a mortgage sized loan to have it sit in a garage and collect dust.

[coogles]

Speaking of 86s, seems a viable oil pressure solution is on the way.

[D Griff]

I don't even bother with looking at Porsche #poorlyfe

I stopped after seeing 170k msrp GT3's that are 3 years old advertised back at 250k as of now.

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sal ... pe=listing

I honestly think having a GR86 is truly the way to go. You get plenty of sport car feel/performance (Great brakes, great handling super light weight) in a package that you can use.
Yes the local drunken milf won't go home with you after having 5 skinny margaritas. But who gives a fuck you can actually have fun and not pay $1699 for an oil change annually. And take out a mortgage sized loan to have it sit in a garage and collect dust.

My wife and I have these conversation cards, we normally grab one at dinner for fun (just a topic to talk about). Last night we got 'What would we do if we got a gift of $100K?" To which I literally have nothing. I guess I'm very lucky, but I'd probably donate like $10K, blow $10K on a nice trip, save the rest for maybe a new house in the future or whatever else we need. I probably would've said 'buy an Evora, Emira, GT4, etc. a couple of years ago but honestly have near zero desire for such things now. It's just more car to be bummed out about when some dipshit hits it, birds shit on it, I curb a wheel, etc. the whole PPF shop fucking me and seeing Gberb's PPF journery kind of made me realize I don't really want an expensive vehicle. I mean, I guess $35-40K OTD on both of our cars is pretty expensive but no real desire to go past that.

[Gberg2119]

It's kind of weird... some vehicles came down... others are holding steady. I.E used porsches are still well above MSRP. Which is

I don't even bother with looking at Porsche #poorlyfe

I still play with their configurator every so often but I never look at actual listings as they'd ruin the dream.

[max225]

35-50k in todays world is not "expensive" per say since the average transaction price is 48k. I keep waiting for the shoe to drop but somehow the average american family making 70k can afford a 48k car and a 470k house and many vacations as AIRBnB is thriving... I just don't get it anymore and I stopped caring.

[Gberg2119]

Cybertruk fails to sell after being bid to $158k and not meeting reserve. You love to see it.



https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RyYX4 ... ion-series

[D Griff]

Cybertruk fails to sell after being bid to $158k and not meeting reserve. You love to see it.



https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RyYX4 ... ion-series

LOfuckingL man. I hope whoever tried to flip that lost their fucking ass. These will be reduced to $70K new in 18 months.

The pictures of that really allow you to see how each panel looks different. Such quality. Wow.

[max225]

Cybertruk fails to sell after being bid to $158k and not meeting reserve. You love to see it.



https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3RyYX4 ... ion-series

the current "owner" if that is in fact even the case was a complete dick/bitch. Not disclosing how they can sell it without violating the non sale agreement with Tesla that is being brutally enforced by tesla.

[MexicanYarisTK]

35-50k in todays world is not "expensive" per say since the average transaction price is 48k. I keep waiting for the shoe to drop but somehow the average american family making 70k can afford a 48k car and a 470k house and many vacations as AIRBnB is thriving... I just don't get it anymore and I stopped caring.

I am very much anti airbnb, considering the fact that you pay 190$ for cleaning fee and you have to leave spotless. Unless maybe there isn't an accommodation I can find outside for intended destination

[wap]

35-50k in todays world is not "expensive" per say since the average transaction price is 48k. I keep waiting for the shoe to drop but somehow the average american family making 70k can afford a 48k car and a 470k house and many vacations as AIRBnB is thriving... I just don't get it anymore and I stopped caring.

I am very much anti airbnb, considering the fact that you pay 190$ for cleaning fee and you have to leave spotless. Unless maybe there isn't an accommodation I can find outside for intended destination

:metoo:

[max225]

35-50k in todays world is not "expensive" per say since the average transaction price is 48k. I keep waiting for the shoe to drop but somehow the average american family making 70k can afford a 48k car and a 470k house and many vacations as AIRBnB is thriving... I just don't get it anymore and I stopped caring.

I am very much anti airbnb, considering the fact that you pay 190$ for cleaning fee and you have to leave spotless. Unless maybe there isn't an accommodation I can find outside for intended destination

Yet somehow there are 100s of thousands of them in this country and they are generating iNcOmE and creating massive housing shortages.

[CaleDeRoo]

I saw an Emira last weekend in this spec. It looked incredible

[wap]

I saw an Emira last weekend in this spec. It looked incredible

That's hot.

[Johnny_P]

35-50k in todays world is not "expensive" per say since the average transaction price is 48k. I keep waiting for the shoe to drop but somehow the average american family making 70k can afford a 48k car and a 470k house and many vacations as AIRBnB is thriving... I just don't get it anymore and I stopped caring.

I am very much anti airbnb, considering the fact that you pay 190$ for cleaning fee and you have to leave spotless. Unless maybe there isn't an accommodation I can find outside for intended destination

It works pretty well for kids but yeah. I’d much rather stay in a hotel.

[Johnny_P]

I am very much anti airbnb, considering the fact that you pay 190$ for cleaning fee and you have to leave spotless. Unless maybe there isn't an accommodation I can find outside for intended destination

Yet somehow there are 100s of thousands of them in this country and they are generating iNcOmE and creating massive housing shortages.

There really should be legislation against this. Hawaii found a way to do it. Short term rentals are not allowed outside of Waikiki. You have to rent it for 6 months or something. Because yeah housing costs are ridiculous and only became worse as homes were bought to be short term rentals, reducing the housing stock for residents.

[J-Ho-Fo-Show69]

I am very much anti airbnb, considering the fact that you pay 190$ for cleaning fee and you have to leave spotless. Unless maybe there isn't an accommodation I can find outside for intended destination

It works pretty well for kids but yeah. I’d much rather stay in a hotel.

If I’m traveling alone, I’d rather stay in a hotel, but if we’re doing a couples trip, like we’re doing this weekend with D Griff to Wilmington, I’d much rather have an Airbnb. Just a heck of a lot more fun than hanging out in the lobby of the hotel, or much awkward one of our hotel rooms. I also can’t cook in my hotel room if I wanted, or have a yard for my dog. Which you all know I love more than anything.

As an airbnb owner myself, I try to make it as easy for the guest as possible. I’ve stayed in some shit airbnbs in the past. Bachelor party to Atlantic City where it was 15 dudes and they stocked the house with 4 towels….. like thanks! Walmart run so I can dry off after a shower. Which we didn’t! Air dried by the pool was most guys choice. Also, AC is. Shithole!

Alas, I’m not taking away some lake lure residents primary house with my house in the mountains. No lake lure local employee is living there. I don’t get Charlotte airbnbs personally. That market has to be pretty dry. Not many people vacationing in the Queen City! Mostly corporate shit. Which I have to imagine they have deals with hotels, etc. Charlotte is epitome of great place to live, shitty to vacation to.

You inventory is being scooped up by hedge funds and private equity. Which accounted for like 35% of all Charlotte transactions last year. That’s where legislation needs to take action. We’re slowly becoming a nation of renters.

[D Griff]

It works pretty well for kids but yeah. I’d much rather stay in a hotel.

If I’m traveling alone, I’d rather stay in a hotel, but if we’re doing a couples trip, like we’re doing this weekend with D Griff to Wilmington, I’d much rather have an Airbnb. Just a heck of a lot more fun than hanging out in the lobby of the hotel, or much awkward one of our hotel rooms. I also can’t cook in my hotel room if I wanted, or have a yard for my dog. Which you all know I love more than anything.

As an airbnb owner myself, I try to make it as easy for the guest as possible. I’ve stayed in some shit airbnbs in the past. Bachelor party to Atlantic City where it was 15 dudes and they stocked the house with 4 towels….. like thanks! Walmart run so I can dry off after a shower. Which we didn’t! Air dried by the pool was most guys choice. Also, AC is. Shithole!

Alas, I’m not taking away some lake lure residents primary house with my house in the mountains. No lake lure local employee is living there. I don’t get Charlotte airbnbs personally. That market has to be pretty dry. Not many people vacationing in the Queen City! Mostly corporate shit. Which I have to imagine they have deals with hotels, etc. Charlotte is epitome of great place to live, shitty to vacation to.

You inventory is being scooped up by hedge funds and private equity. Which accounted for like 35% of all Charlotte transactions last year. That’s where legislation needs to take action. We’re slowly becoming a nation of renters.

Agreed on all this. Airbnb is nice with family, larger group, etc. That said I could see the value in regulating it in some places (Hawaii maybe makes sense for reasons mentioned above). Lake Lue is interesting as I’m sure it is tough for locals to afford anything but I think wealthy out of town people would buy properties even if they couldn’t rent them Tough problem to solve, touristy area locals are basically limited to service industry gigs and properties are expensive. At least LL you could live in BFE WNC and that’s probably still cheapish.

I don’t know enough about it to really say but I think you’re right on a lot of probs being caused by banks and foreigners buying our property. Like why are a shitton of American and Canadian homes owned by Chinese? Fuck off with buying up our houses and making our poors poorer if you’re living on the opposite side of the globe.

[D Griff]

I saw an Emira last weekend in this spec. It looked incredible

If I was going to $100k on a car, I think Emira would be it.

[coogles]

I would still 718 Spyder over an Emira, but it'd be close.