Great spec … I’m kind of curious about how bmw is going about infotainment.
2022 I drive 7 (different interior)
2023 I drive 8
2024 + I drive 8.5
They are all vastly different. Now that I have used 8.5 a lot I really really like it. It’s significantly improved over 8.0.
IX-Lemon Life.
From what I've read, M cars might get ID8.5 but it won't have the new quick select menu at the bottom or any of the new UI aside from the new climate menu.
However, I do think it's total to release ID8 for 2023 with zero upgrade path to ID8.5. I guess screw everyone who bought a 2023. Major fail on BMW's part.
However, I do think it's total to release ID8 for 2023 with zero upgrade path to ID8.5. I guess screw everyone who bought a 2023. Major fail on BMW's part.
So hotGberg2119 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:39 pmmax225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 1:16 pm
US treasuries pay 5.5% a year now... and it doesn't even need state taxes. 100% risk free other than losing the money of course to inflation. Interest rates on new cars are 4-10%... so that's a non starter anyways... imagine paying 1k a month in INTEREST on a defender
It seems like I4+Taco make for the most sensible proposition... but I may go an ultimate move next... There is a chance I can punt the i4 also... get another IX life... sell the taco and get something fun... this way the IX turns into the commuter/family car and possibly get something like an M2/Type R/M3 as a weekender. more on that later once the IX schedule clears up.
https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KVQAGW ... campaign=n
This sitch is
This whole thing is going to turn into buying two new BMWs?
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I’m not understanding this but I’m interested to hear what comes of it
Sell the BMW that is lemoned yet has nothing wrong for the exact same thing, and potentially the same service ineptitude, and also sell the sedan for a gas version of the same sedan. And both from the same company at that.
You must hate money
Sell the BMW that is lemoned yet has nothing wrong for the exact same thing, and potentially the same service ineptitude, and also sell the sedan for a gas version of the same sedan. And both from the same company at that.
You must hate money
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Not quite.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:08 pm I’m not understanding this but I’m interested to hear what comes of it
Sell the BMW that is lemoned yet has nothing wrong for the exact same thing, and potentially the same service ineptitude, and also sell the sedan for a gas version of the same sedan. And both from the same company at that.
You must hate money
1. Getting a buy back and not selling on a now fucked with IX and essentially have the car for “free” for 2 months. 0 cash outlay
2. I4 Trade in at Breakeven. I may lose the $4200 down for having had the car for 4 months. Still less than the tax alone on a new car. But this is tbd
3. Replace IX with another IX that’s not fucked because I actually really like the car. But I won’t be returning to that dealer. IX costs 1/2 to run than a defender.
4. Sell taco and pocket 45-50k and put it at 5.5% roi
5. Possibly get a fun car that I currently don’t have so the garage will now be family IX\commuter + fun car.
I don’t need 3 cars that I have now. Only reason why I have them now is because of the IX fiasco.
How is this hating money ? hating money is the current sitch at 2600 a month.
The other crazy part is … EVs got even cheaper than when I was shopping back in July. I can get a throwaway model 3 at $330 a month. That’s a lot cheaper than the i4 at 550
i4 is nice though, Model 3 .max225 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:39 pmNot quite.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Oct 19, 2023 3:08 pm I’m not understanding this but I’m interested to hear what comes of it
Sell the BMW that is lemoned yet has nothing wrong for the exact same thing, and potentially the same service ineptitude, and also sell the sedan for a gas version of the same sedan. And both from the same company at that.
You must hate money
1. Getting a buy back and not selling on a now fucked with IX and essentially have the car for “free” for 2 months. 0 cash outlay
2. I4 Trade in at Breakeven. I may lose the $4200 down for having had the car for 4 months. Still less than the tax alone on a new car. But this is tbd
3. Replace IX with another IX that’s not fucked because I actually really like the car. But I won’t be returning to that dealer. IX costs 1/2 to run than a defender.
4. Sell taco and pocket 45-50k and put it at 5.5% roi
5. Possibly get a fun car that I currently don’t have so the garage will now be family IX\commuter + fun car.
I don’t need 3 cars that I have now. Only reason why I have them now is because of the IX fiasco.
How is this hating money ? hating money is the current sitch at 2600 a month.
The other crazy part is … EVs got even cheaper than when I was shopping back in July. I can get a throwaway model 3 at $330 a month. That’s a lot cheaper than the i4 at 550
I will be if you get another IX, but I do think family EV + fun sedan makes sense though, sounds like a decent plan.
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Yeah current model 3 is blah. facelifted one is a bit better and at least won’t be lost in a parking lot for the next 2 years…. The lease term can be shorter on the tesla and it’s actually cheaper. Either way time. The IX needs to go for now … I did inquire about money to keep and avoid buy back but who knows.
The I’m dealing with seems quite inept at his job as well… so I’m not expecting miracles. Every communication takes 2 days to turn around and only 1/2 the questions are addressed.
The I’m dealing with seems quite inept at his job as well… so I’m not expecting miracles. Every communication takes 2 days to turn around and only 1/2 the questions are addressed.
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Yeah I mean I get it in that the iX is a nice ass car. Just surprised that you’d get another knowing how much of a pain in the ass these cars are from a troubleshooting and system design aspect.
Is the i4 AWD?
Is the i4 AWD?
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Major update:
1. BMW is willing to pay me $2500 to "keep" the car and I can still "lemon" it later if I wanted to... that ain't happening.
2. Looks like they won't be making a mileage deduction given that the car was so new if I do decide to turn it in.
3. Once I get the paperwork back from bmw it will take them 3 weeks or so to complete the turn in.
4. They will re-imburse for floor mats+insurance
Getting the worksheet later today. So as far as path forward this car is DONE. It is 99% going back to BMW as there is 0 incentive to keep it. I think prices will continue to go down.
So I have a "free" IX for another month... and I have an I4 which is getting exactly 0 use. I'll be getting some trade values over the next few days to see if I can it. As I have no use for the I4 at this point and going forward a single IX (or other EV) makes more sense than a I4+IX combo.
1. BMW is willing to pay me $2500 to "keep" the car and I can still "lemon" it later if I wanted to... that ain't happening.
2. Looks like they won't be making a mileage deduction given that the car was so new if I do decide to turn it in.
3. Once I get the paperwork back from bmw it will take them 3 weeks or so to complete the turn in.
4. They will re-imburse for floor mats+insurance
Getting the worksheet later today. So as far as path forward this car is DONE. It is 99% going back to BMW as there is 0 incentive to keep it. I think prices will continue to go down.
So I have a "free" IX for another month... and I have an I4 which is getting exactly 0 use. I'll be getting some trade values over the next few days to see if I can it. As I have no use for the I4 at this point and going forward a single IX (or other EV) makes more sense than a I4+IX combo.
I thought you loved the i4 though?max225 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:41 pm Major update:
1. BMW is willing to pay me $2500 to "keep" the car and I can still "lemon" it later if I wanted to... that ain't happening.
2. Looks like they won't be making a mileage deduction given that the car was so new if I do decide to turn it in.
3. Once I get the paperwork back from bmw it will take them 3 weeks or so to complete the turn in.
4. They will re-imburse for floor mats+insurance
Getting the worksheet later today. So as far as path forward this car is DONE. It is 99% going back to BMW as there is 0 incentive to keep it. I think prices will continue to go down.
So I have a "free" IX for another month... and I have an I4 which is getting exactly 0 use. I'll be getting some trade values over the next few days to see if I can it. As I have no use for the I4 at this point and going forward a single IX (or other EV) makes more sense than a I4+IX combo.
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I do… but I am currently in a situation where the i4 and taco get exactly 0 use. So there are 3 ways to go about it… I want to keep it at a 2 car solution.D Griff wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 1:31 pmI thought you loved the i4 though?max225 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 12:41 pm Major update:
1. BMW is willing to pay me $2500 to "keep" the car and I can still "lemon" it later if I wanted to... that ain't happening.
2. Looks like they won't be making a mileage deduction given that the car was so new if I do decide to turn it in.
3. Once I get the paperwork back from bmw it will take them 3 weeks or so to complete the turn in.
4. They will re-imburse for floor mats+insurance
Getting the worksheet later today. So as far as path forward this car is DONE. It is 99% going back to BMW as there is 0 incentive to keep it. I think prices will continue to go down.
So I have a "free" IX for another month... and I have an I4 which is getting exactly 0 use. I'll be getting some trade values over the next few days to see if I can it. As I have no use for the I4 at this point and going forward a single IX (or other EV) makes more sense than a I4+IX combo.
Scenario 1:
Keep i4 and taco and call it a day
Scenario 2:
Replace i4 with something that works as a commuter and family car (only IX/Mach E or model Y fit this) and keep the taco.
Scenario 3:
Keep i4 replace Tacoma with fun family car (G Wagen, Defender, macan gts, new Land Cruiser or rivian) a lot of variables here but it needs to be a bit more spacious than an i4 for family shit and a lot more fun/unique.
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I’d imagine resale on the defender would be ridiculously high because there’s going to be enormous demand for them. Seems like a good pick as long as the hype stays strong.
I want one, not gonna lie
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Kind of my issue with it … at the same time i4 isn’t quite big enough to be a full on family car. The car seat sitch this country decided to force down people’s throats is just stupid.
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