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Gberg2119 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:12 pm
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I don't think it matters too much, but I would probably do it when you get the chance, especially considering you're autox'ing.
Might as well. I'll have the indy place do it which means I can probably get something better than whatever the OEM fluid is. RBF600 most likely.
I always use ATE which is quite a bit cheaper than RBF600 and seems to hold up great on track, so I'm sure it would work for autox nicely.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:17 pm
Gberg2119 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:12 pm

Might as well. I'll have the indy place do it which means I can probably get something better than whatever the OEM fluid is. RBF600 most likely.
I always use ATE which is quite a bit cheaper than RBF600 and seems to hold up great on track, so I'm sure it would work for autox nicely.
Super DOT 5.1?
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Gberg2119 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:38 pm
D Griff wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:17 pm

I always use ATE which is quite a bit cheaper than RBF600 and seems to hold up great on track, so I'm sure it would work for autox nicely.
Super DOT 5.1?
I've always used Type 200 - https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ate-parts/t ... N0QAvD_BwE

The super DOT 5.1 might be the new hotness though?
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3 years of street driving. The harder you are on the car the more stuff like this it needs. I’d just do it. Can’t hurt. If you’ve boiled the fluid at all before it will help. Like I boiled the STI fluid just from street driving it hard, and it needed a flush pretty bad when I sold it off. With autocross yeah it’s probably time.
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D Griff wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:57 pm
Gberg2119 wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 4:38 pm

Super DOT 5.1?
I've always used Type 200 - https://www.ecstuning.com/b-ate-parts/t ... N0QAvD_BwE

The super DOT 5.1 might be the new hotness though?
Weird. The type 200 wasn’t showing up when I entered my car info on ECS. Only 5.1 and SL6.

At nearly half the price of RBF600 makes it a no brainer.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:21 pm 3 years of street driving. The harder you are on the car the more stuff like this it needs. I’d just do it. Can’t hurt. If you’ve boiled the fluid at all before it will help. Like I boiled the STI fluid just from street driving it hard, and it needed a flush pretty bad when I sold it off. With autocross yeah it’s probably time.
How did you do that ? Legit curious, were you just going 0-50-0 50x because you were angry at the world ? Sti has some serious brakes
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max225 wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 11:09 am
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:21 pm 3 years of street driving. The harder you are on the car the more stuff like this it needs. I’d just do it. Can’t hurt. If you’ve boiled the fluid at all before it will help. Like I boiled the STI fluid just from street driving it hard, and it needed a flush pretty bad when I sold it off. With autocross yeah it’s probably time.
How did you do that ? Legit curious, were you just going 0-50-0 50x because you were angry at the world ? Sti has some serious brakes
It would have to be like back road stuff going pretty hard... 100% impossible to boil brake fluid in a city.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:47 pm
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How did you do that ? Legit curious, were you just going 0-50-0 50x because you were angry at the world ? Sti has some serious brakes
It would have to be like back road stuff going pretty hard... 100% impossible to boil brake fluid in a city.
He said street driving so I’m curious …
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max225 wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:56 pm
D Griff wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:47 pm

It would have to be like back road stuff going pretty hard... 100% impossible to boil brake fluid in a city.
He said street driving so I’m curious …
I am too, if nothing else I was reinforcing your questioning it. I have experienced brake fade going HARD on Tail of the Dragon or Angeles Crest, roads like that. Honestly I don't think I would go that hard on a street anymore. That is dangerous. 7-8/10 is plenty for 'the canyons'.
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D Griff wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:07 pm
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He said street driving so I’m curious …
I am too, if nothing else I was reinforcing your questioning it. I have experienced brake fade going HARD on Tail of the Dragon or Angeles Crest, roads like that. Honestly I don't think I would go that hard on a street anymore. That is dangerous. 7-8/10 is plenty for 'the canyons'.
And the sti has massive brakes for what it is… I have overheated brakes before but it was due to continuous back to back extreme braking … usually 5-10 50-100to 0-20 will do it on most cars … not my m3 though that thing was epic …
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max225 wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 4:10 pm
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I am too, if nothing else I was reinforcing your questioning it. I have experienced brake fade going HARD on Tail of the Dragon or Angeles Crest, roads like that. Honestly I don't think I would go that hard on a street anymore. That is dangerous. 7-8/10 is plenty for 'the canyons'.
And the sti has massive brakes for what it is… I have overheated brakes before but it was due to continuous back to back extreme braking … usually 5-10 50-100to 0-20 will do it on most cars … not my m3 though that thing was epic …
Yeah massive breaks should stay cooler which would help. The biggest thing is tires though, generally stock brakes can overwhelm stock tires so brake upgrades really don't do anything. Start getting big sticky ickies and you will fry the brakes quickly.
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It has big calipers but just like many other cars it needs fluid and pads if you’re going to be doing hard driving with it, especially with all the traction it generates. And the STI has a vectoring system that uses the front brakes so they’re getting worked hard regardless if you’re using the pedal or not.

I drove the car hard on back roads and would slow way down around blind turns or crests because I’m not a moron. So that worked things harder as well.

This was also at year 4 on stock fluid and pads so…
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:08 pm It has big calipers but just like many other cars it needs fluid and pads if you’re going to be doing hard driving with it, especially with all the traction it generates. And the STI has a vectoring system that uses the front brakes so they’re getting worked hard regardless if you’re using the pedal or not.

I drove the car hard on back roads and would slow way down around blind turns or crests because I’m not a moron. So that worked things harder as well.

This was also at year 4 on stock fluid and pads so…
Interesting … did you get the fluid changed ? Or oem baby
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max225 wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:44 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2022 8:08 pm It has big calipers but just like many other cars it needs fluid and pads if you’re going to be doing hard driving with it, especially with all the traction it generates. And the STI has a vectoring system that uses the front brakes so they’re getting worked hard regardless if you’re using the pedal or not.

I drove the car hard on back roads and would slow way down around blind turns or crests because I’m not a moron. So that worked things harder as well.

This was also at year 4 on stock fluid and pads so…
Interesting … did you get the fluid changed ? Or oem baby
No I never changed the fluid, and the pads got butchered by a hack job shop that lied to me saying it was needed to pass inspection. But I offed the car shortly after that.
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Johnny_P wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 7:19 am
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Interesting … did you get the fluid changed ? Or oem baby
No I never changed the fluid, and the pads got butchered by a hack job shop that lied to me saying it was needed to pass inspection. But I offed the car shortly after that.
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max225 wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:40 am
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No I never changed the fluid, and the pads got butchered by a hack job shop that lied to me saying it was needed to pass inspection. But I offed the car shortly after that.
the true impersonation of city miles :mahtroy:
I don’t have time to deal with dealerships. Took it to a 5 star yelp repair shop like 5 blocks from me. Turned out to be a mistake.
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Johnny_P wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 9:01 am
max225 wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:40 am the true impersonation of city miles :mahtroy:
I don’t have time to deal with dealerships. Took it to a 5 star yelp repair shop like 5 blocks from me. Turned out to be a mistake.
I have an appointment for a brake bleed at a five star shop for the BMW, Euro specialist even. Curious to see how shitty it is. I think I'm BYOfluid and paying $159, which seems like a pretty reasonable price at least.
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D Griff wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 12:04 pm
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I don’t have time to deal with dealerships. Took it to a 5 star yelp repair shop like 5 blocks from me. Turned out to be a mistake.
I have an appointment for a brake bleed at a five star shop for the BMW, Euro specialist even. Curious to see how shitty it is. I think I'm BYOfluid and paying $159, which seems like a pretty reasonable price at least.
You saw how my 5 star Yelp brake fluid job turned out.
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max225 wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 5:26 pm
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I have an appointment for a brake bleed at a five star shop for the BMW, Euro specialist even. Curious to see how shitty it is. I think I'm BYOfluid and paying $159, which seems like a pretty reasonable price at least.
You saw how my 5 star Yelp brake fluid job turned out.
You heard how my driveway brake fluid job worked out… :lolol:
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D Griff wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:08 pm
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You saw how my 5 star Yelp brake fluid job turned out.
You heard how my driveway brake fluid job worked out… :lolol:
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So I think I need to do a cable adjustment on the dieselgeek. Occasionally going into third it'll kind of miss? I don't know if it's me or the car but I'll try the adjustment based on dieselgeek's instructions. Great job by the dealer. I did have the car up in the poconos last weekend and it was very :nice: . :tits: was with me so it's not like I could go crazy but the shifter was very enjoyable through the mountains.

Also did my own investigation of the rattle by the rear right passenger seat. I put the crap they blamed it on in the front of the car and what do you know? It was still making the noise. Wow. :mindblown: Expert investigative work by the dealer. I'm glad they were soooo nice and didn't charge me for that. :rolleyes: . I ended up folding the right side seat down and that "fixed" it. No more rattles over the same roads. The weight from the seat folded must be stopping it right? My next step is pulling the rear bench out to see if something is loose under there but what could it be? It's just the fuel pump under the seat. :notsure: what I'll find.

Sometime next week I'll call the indy shop for alignment/brake flush.
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Correct. Nothing under there is loose that I can see. :iono:


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Gberg2119 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:49 pm So I think I need to do a cable adjustment on the dieselgeek. Occasionally going into third it'll kind of miss? I don't know if it's me or the car but I'll try the adjustment based on dieselgeek's instructions. Great job by the dealer. I did have the car up in the poconos last weekend and it was very :nice: . :tits: was with me so it's not like I could go crazy but the shifter was very enjoyable through the mountains.

Also did my own investigation of the rattle by the rear right passenger seat. I put the crap they blamed it on in the front of the car and what do you know? It was still making the noise. Wow. :mindblown: Expert investigative work by the dealer. I'm glad they were soooo nice and didn't charge me for that. :rolleyes: . I ended up folding the right side seat down and that "fixed" it. No more rattles over the same roads. The weight from the seat folded must be stopping it right? My next step is pulling the rear bench out to see if something is loose under there but what could it be? It's just the fuel pump under the seat. :notsure: what I'll find.

Sometime next week I'll call the indy shop for alignment/brake flush.
It could be the seat back latch. I had small microfiber towels shoved between the seat back and the frame to put pressure on the latch and keep it from rattling.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:37 pm
Gberg2119 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:49 pm So I think I need to do a cable adjustment on the dieselgeek. Occasionally going into third it'll kind of miss? I don't know if it's me or the car but I'll try the adjustment based on dieselgeek's instructions. Great job by the dealer. I did have the car up in the poconos last weekend and it was very :nice: . :tits: was with me so it's not like I could go crazy but the shifter was very enjoyable through the mountains.

Also did my own investigation of the rattle by the rear right passenger seat. I put the crap they blamed it on in the front of the car and what do you know? It was still making the noise. Wow. :mindblown: Expert investigative work by the dealer. I'm glad they were soooo nice and didn't charge me for that. :rolleyes: . I ended up folding the right side seat down and that "fixed" it. No more rattles over the same roads. The weight from the seat folded must be stopping it right? My next step is pulling the rear bench out to see if something is loose under there but what could it be? It's just the fuel pump under the seat. :notsure: what I'll find.

Sometime next week I'll call the indy shop for alignment/brake flush.
It could be the seat back latch. I had small microfiber towels shoved between the seat back and the frame to put pressure on the latch and keep it from rattling.
Do you mean stuffed in between here? Or on the latch itself that you see when the seat is folded?

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Gberg2119 wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:38 am
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:37 pm

It could be the seat back latch. I had small microfiber towels shoved between the seat back and the frame to put pressure on the latch and keep it from rattling.
Do you mean stuffed in between here? Or on the latch itself that you see when the seat is folded?

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Like fold the seat back down a bit, shove a rag there, and slam the seat back and latch it. So mine ended up near the latch itself. Like right under it or something.
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