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Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:14 am At this stage, I don't know many people that DON'T have the VID. It's :impressive:
:dat: (or have had it in the past 21 days or so). I'm :amaze: that I haven't yet contracted.

Are you fully mended at this point?
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D Griff wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:02 am
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 8:14 am At this stage, I don't know many people that DON'T have the VID. It's :impressive:
:dat: (or have had it in the past 21 days or so). I'm :amaze: that I haven't yet contracted.

Are you fully mended at this point?
I was probably 95% yesterday, and 99% today. A very slight runny nose is all I have now. SO ~10 days from first symptoms to "full" recovery.

Honestly, it wasn't that bad, assuming it was indeed COVID.
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razr390 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 10:01 am Kid is sounding a bit like the start of a cold and I have a stuffy nose. So it begins.

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With all the colds you've been having, there are tonnes of t-cells and shit running through you. You'll all be just fine. My kids shook Omicron off in three days. The older one had a little cough for a week, and the younger one had no lingering side effects. It was just my wife that still has some vertigo ailments, but that is a typical inner ear issue that is characteristic of her past experiences.
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My bb coach has it. Sucks cause he’s prepping for a show right now. Glad I didn’t get it while in prep last year. Would have derailed the whole thing. Fingers crossed that I don’t get it this fall while prepping.
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SAWCE wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:28 pm What’s the new thing the CDC released? Most “covid deaths” have had four or more comorbidities? JFC. How about instead of mandating vaccines that kinda make you not feel as bad when you get it which you still will, we mandate how much processed food people are allowed to eat and how often they have to break a fucking sweat exercising.
5/7 rant. All true.

Besides the kids, everyone I know had a way worse time with covid than I did, and none of them do any real exercise. data point of 1 and all, but still.

Overall mandates are bad. No vax mandates. No soft drink mandates. Leave me alone government.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:09 pm
SAWCE wrote: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:28 pm What’s the new thing the CDC released? Most “covid deaths” have had four or more comorbidities? JFC. How about instead of mandating vaccines that kinda make you not feel as bad when you get it which you still will, we mandate how much processed food people are allowed to eat and how often they have to break a fucking sweat exercising.
5/7 rant. All true.

Besides the kids, everyone I know had a way worse time with covid than I did, and none of them do any real exercise. data point of 1 and all, but still.

Overall mandates are bad. No vax mandates. No soft drink mandates. Leave me alone government.
That’s my actual feel. Don’t mandate shit.

But, if you’re going to mandate shit, mandate shit that is actually beneficial to everybody.. healthier population means better survival odds against the next virus, less money spent on healthcare, that list goes on for miles and miles.
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https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-a ... e-outcomes

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Wonder why they want you to wait two weeks to be 'fully vaxxed' Probably nothing to do with the fact that during that period one is way more likely to catch the bug over the control group. :iono:
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:51 pm https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-a ... e-outcomes

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Wonder why they want you to wait two weeks to be 'fully vaxxed' Probably nothing to do with the fact that during that period one is way more likely to catch the bug over the control group. :iono:
I am by no means a Vaccine defender as it has proven completely worthless as far as fending off infection at this point. Which this chart clearly proves as well as the 1M plus cases a day we can no longer pin on the "unvaccinated trumpers".

However I want a REAL Study by AGE group as far as how much this vaccine actually "prevents death" and "hospitalization". And I'd love to see it by those who have pre existing conditions and don't. because at this point I feel like so many people got the shot that the data is hard to come by. Whoever hasn't... likely had reasons not to get it other than "want" that may sku the data.

REAL DATA not commentary from some random article quoting politicians and fake and sponsored shit by Pfizer
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:59 pm
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:51 pm https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-a ... e-outcomes

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Wonder why they want you to wait two weeks to be 'fully vaxxed' Probably nothing to do with the fact that during that period one is way more likely to catch the bug over the control group. :iono:
I am by no means a Vaccine defender as it has proven completely worthless as far as fending off infection at this point. Which this chart clearly proves as well as the 1M plus cases a day we can no longer pin on the "unvaccinated trumpers".

However I want a REAL Study by AGE group as far as how much this vaccine actually "prevents death" and "hospitalization". And I'd love to see it by those who have pre existing conditions and don't. because at this point I feel like so many people got the shot that the data is hard to come by. Whoever hasn't... likely had reasons not to get it other than "want" that may sku the data.

REAL DATA not commentary from some random article quoting politicians and fake and sponsored shit by Pfizer
I would like to see that too. Too bad the US stopped collecting such data, hence the data driven crazies like us having to go to other countries like Canada, UK, Israel. I suspect that data is not available because it looks very, very bad.

Want to get really triggered? Go read the latest project veritas drop.
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:59 pm sponsored shit by Pfizer
speaking of Pfizer

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/first-o ... today.html
So, what do you think the future holds in terms of when we’ll be getting the next boosters and what those boosters are going to contain?

BOURLA: I wouldn’t say that the future is clearly predictable right now, but what I think it is that we are doing everything we can so that you can stay ahead of the virus. And let me start with I don’t know if there is a need for a fourth booster.......
The CEO of Pfizer is walking back talk on boosters? I WONDER WHY THAT IS.
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Well they already stated that they are releasing the omicron shit in March not sure why … given that 1/2 the country probably had it …

I know of multiple sick people who couldn’t even get tested … who are just waiting that shit out
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:15 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:59 pm sponsored shit by Pfizer
speaking of Pfizer

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/first-o ... today.html
So, what do you think the future holds in terms of when we’ll be getting the next boosters and what those boosters are going to contain?

BOURLA: I wouldn’t say that the future is clearly predictable right now, but what I think it is that we are doing everything we can so that you can stay ahead of the virus. And let me start with I don’t know if there is a need for a fourth booster.......
The CEO of Pfizer is walking back talk on boosters? I WONDER WHY THAT IS.
Do you still think this will be gone by late Feb? They are shutting a lot down to slow the spread, so I can see that becoming an issue.
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:23 pm Well they already stated that they are releasing the omicron shit in March not sure why … given that 1/2 the country probably had it …

I know of multiple sick people who couldn’t even get tested … who are just waiting that shit out
:hai:

I probably had it, no clue if I did or not because testing wasn't an option. Same with the wife. 2 "breakthrough" cases that went unreported.

So the question is...

Isn't your own immune system response to infection more robust than a vaccine...booster or not? And if so, doesn't that make a specific Omicron booster worthless since it seems like anyone that hasn't been infected yet, has been with omicron? Can't prove it because the volume of unreported cases is probably staggering, but pretty sure I'm done with further vaccines from here on out.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:15 pm

speaking of Pfizer

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/first-o ... today.html



The CEO of Pfizer is walking back talk on boosters? I WONDER WHY THAT IS.
Do you still think this will be gone by late Feb? They are shutting a lot down to slow the spread, so I can see that becoming an issue.
Yes I do; it clearly didn't work the first time.
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:23 pm Well they already stated that they are releasing the omicron shit in March not sure why … given that 1/2 the country probably had it …

I know of multiple sick people who couldn’t even get tested … who are just waiting that shit out
:hai:

I probably had it, no clue if I did or not because testing wasn't an option. Same with the wife. 2 "breakthrough" cases that went unreported.

So the question is...

Isn't your own immune system response to infection more robust than a vaccine...booster or not? And if so, doesn't that make a specific Omicron booster worthless since it seems like anyone that hasn't been infected yet, has been with omicron? Can't prove it because the volume of unreported cases is probably staggering, but pretty sure I'm done with further vaccines from here on out.
RE: bolded, science aint in on covid specifically but it sure aint looking good right? Dont need the papers to be published and peer reviewed to see that.
But yes, almost without exception, every virus in human history that we have developed a vaccine for, the natural immunity from survung said infection has proven to be more robust and long lasting than vaccine induced immunity.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:35 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:23 pm Well they already stated that they are releasing the omicron shit in March not sure why … given that 1/2 the country probably had it …

I know of multiple sick people who couldn’t even get tested … who are just waiting that shit out
:hai:

I probably had it, no clue if I did or not because testing wasn't an option. Same with the wife. 2 "breakthrough" cases that went unreported.

So the question is...

Isn't your own immune system response to infection more robust than a vaccine...booster or not? And if so, doesn't that make a specific Omicron booster worthless since it seems like anyone that hasn't been infected yet, has been with omicron? Can't prove it because the volume of unreported cases is probably staggering, but pretty sure I'm done with further vaccines from here on out.
Can’t ask questions like this :lolgasm:
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:47 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:35 pm
:hai:

I probably had it, no clue if I did or not because testing wasn't an option. Same with the wife. 2 "breakthrough" cases that went unreported.

So the question is...

Isn't your own immune system response to infection more robust than a vaccine...booster or not? And if so, doesn't that make a specific Omicron booster worthless since it seems like anyone that hasn't been infected yet, has been with omicron? Can't prove it because the volume of unreported cases is probably staggering, but pretty sure I'm done with further vaccines from here on out.
Can’t ask questions like this :lolgasm:
I'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?

Just saying that once someone's body has successfully fought it off, how necessary is a follow-up vaccine? I guess that's not allowed to be asked because it calls into question the need for vaccines?
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:47 pm
Can’t ask questions like this :lolgasm:
I'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?

Just saying that once someone's body has successfully fought it off, how necessary is a follow-up vaccine? I guess that's not allowed to be asked because it calls into question the need for vaccines?
It seems fairly obvi that the Omicron circumvents current vaccines, or at least circumvents them to the degree that a reasonable person can walk around maskless standing shoulder to shoulder with complete strangers and somehow be surprised that they picked up the Oma. It also seems that Oma is, on balance, far less severe that Corona Original (tm) and Corona Delta. E.g. by and large if do not have "co-moribidities" or are old AF, or fat AF, it is not going to put you on a ventilator or otherwise land you in in intensive care. I have had Pfizer X3 and unless some new uber Deadly strain arises, AND there is a vaccine developed for that specific strain that defeats it............I have done my duty on the vaccines. That said, I have like ZERO interest in being sick for 5, 10 or 20 days just like I don't want to get the flu and I will in fact NOT being standing shoulder to shoulder with complete strangers, masked or otherwise, until Oma blows through.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:47 pm
Can’t ask questions like this :lolgasm:
I'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?

Just saying that once someone's body has successfully fought it off, how necessary is a follow-up vaccine? I guess that's not allowed to be asked because it calls into question the need for vaccines?
The question is omicron is statistically way milder than the other variants so was it the vaccine or was it the way milder infection.
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 pm
I'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?

Just saying that once someone's body has successfully fought it off, how necessary is a follow-up vaccine? I guess that's not allowed to be asked because it calls into question the need for vaccines?
The question is omicron is statistically way milder than the other variants so was it the vaccine or was it the way milder infection.
Oh? Are you subscribing to the theory a whitehat intentionally released it? Like the eco health and NIAID grant proposed? :caspian: :ban: (just kiddin, obvi)
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 pm
I'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?

Just saying that once someone's body has successfully fought it off, how necessary is a follow-up vaccine? I guess that's not allowed to be asked because it calls into question the need for vaccines?
The question is omicron is statistically way milder than the other variants so was it the vaccine or was it the way milder infection.
Absolutely. No idea the root cause, or if I even had it to begin with. I've never been sick like that ever, and I've certainly never in my life been sick for 10 days straight, but :iono:
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:35 pm
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The question is omicron is statistically way milder than the other variants so was it the vaccine or was it the way milder infection.
Absolutely. No idea the root cause, or if I even had it to begin with. I've never been sick like that ever, and I've certainly never in my life been sick for 10 days straight, but :iono:
I mean you also shoveled snow in the middle :iono:
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:40 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:35 pm
Absolutely. No idea the root cause, or if I even had it to begin with. I've never been sick like that ever, and I've certainly never in my life been sick for 10 days straight, but :iono:
I mean you also shoveled snow in the middle :iono:
Another indicator that it was COVID. I've always continued to live life ZFG when sick with no real impact. Shoveling snow is a workout, but shouldn't have taken me down like it did.
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Michelle’s mom just tested positive and we were with them all weekend in Oregon, so michelle is out getting tested again now too. Fucking LOL
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SAWCE wrote: Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:34 pm Michelle’s mom just tested positive and we were with them all weekend in Oregon, so michelle is out getting tested again now too. Fucking LOL
Spoiler alert it's probably going to be positive, even if she is not because the tests suck. Wish you all a speedy recovery if you do fall ill.
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