

Are you fully mended at this point?
I was probably 95% yesterday, and 99% today. A very slight runny nose is all I have now. SO ~10 days from first symptoms to "full" recovery.
With all the colds you've been having, there are tonnes of t-cells and shit running through you. You'll all be just fine. My kids shook Omicron off in three days. The older one had a little cough for a week, and the younger one had no lingering side effects. It was just my wife that still has some vertigo ailments, but that is a typical inner ear issue that is characteristic of her past experiences.
5/7 rant. All true.SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:28 pm What’s the new thing the CDC released? Most “covid deaths” have had four or more comorbidities? JFC. How about instead of mandating vaccines that kinda make you not feel as bad when you get it which you still will, we mandate how much processed food people are allowed to eat and how often they have to break a fucking sweat exercising.
That’s my actual feel. Don’t mandate shit.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 12:09 pm5/7 rant. All true.SAWCE wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:28 pm What’s the new thing the CDC released? Most “covid deaths” have had four or more comorbidities? JFC. How about instead of mandating vaccines that kinda make you not feel as bad when you get it which you still will, we mandate how much processed food people are allowed to eat and how often they have to break a fucking sweat exercising.
Besides the kids, everyone I know had a way worse time with covid than I did, and none of them do any real exercise. data point of 1 and all, but still.
Overall mandates are bad. No vax mandates. No soft drink mandates. Leave me alone government.
I am by no means a Vaccine defender as it has proven completely worthless as far as fending off infection at this point. Which this chart clearly proves as well as the 1M plus cases a day we can no longer pin on the "unvaccinated trumpers".Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:51 pm https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-a ... e-outcomes
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Wonder why they want you to wait two weeks to be 'fully vaxxed' Probably nothing to do with the fact that during that period one is way more likely to catch the bug over the control group.![]()
I would like to see that too. Too bad the US stopped collecting such data, hence the data driven crazies like us having to go to other countries like Canada, UK, Israel. I suspect that data is not available because it looks very, very bad.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:59 pmI am by no means a Vaccine defender as it has proven completely worthless as far as fending off infection at this point. Which this chart clearly proves as well as the 1M plus cases a day we can no longer pin on the "unvaccinated trumpers".Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:51 pm https://www.alberta.ca/stats/covid-19-a ... e-outcomes
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Wonder why they want you to wait two weeks to be 'fully vaxxed' Probably nothing to do with the fact that during that period one is way more likely to catch the bug over the control group.![]()
However I want a REAL Study by AGE group as far as how much this vaccine actually "prevents death" and "hospitalization". And I'd love to see it by those who have pre existing conditions and don't. because at this point I feel like so many people got the shot that the data is hard to come by. Whoever hasn't... likely had reasons not to get it other than "want" that may sku the data.
REAL DATA not commentary from some random article quoting politicians and fake and sponsored shit by Pfizer
speaking of Pfizer
The CEO of Pfizer is walking back talk on boosters? I WONDER WHY THAT IS.So, what do you think the future holds in terms of when we’ll be getting the next boosters and what those boosters are going to contain?
BOURLA: I wouldn’t say that the future is clearly predictable right now, but what I think it is that we are doing everything we can so that you can stay ahead of the virus. And let me start with I don’t know if there is a need for a fourth booster.......
Do you still think this will be gone by late Feb? They are shutting a lot down to slow the spread, so I can see that becoming an issue.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:15 pmspeaking of Pfizer
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/first-o ... today.html
The CEO of Pfizer is walking back talk on boosters? I WONDER WHY THAT IS.So, what do you think the future holds in terms of when we’ll be getting the next boosters and what those boosters are going to contain?
BOURLA: I wouldn’t say that the future is clearly predictable right now, but what I think it is that we are doing everything we can so that you can stay ahead of the virus. And let me start with I don’t know if there is a need for a fourth booster.......
Yes I do; it clearly didn't work the first time.Tar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:32 pmDo you still think this will be gone by late Feb? They are shutting a lot down to slow the spread, so I can see that becoming an issue.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:15 pm
speaking of Pfizer
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/10/first-o ... today.html
The CEO of Pfizer is walking back talk on boosters? I WONDER WHY THAT IS.
RE: bolded, science aint in on covid specifically but it sure aint looking good right? Dont need the papers to be published and peer reviewed to see that.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:35 pm
I probably had it, no clue if I did or not because testing wasn't an option. Same with the wife. 2 "breakthrough" cases that went unreported.
So the question is...
Isn't your own immune system response to infection more robust than a vaccine...booster or not? And if so, doesn't that make a specific Omicron booster worthless since it seems like anyone that hasn't been infected yet, has been with omicron? Can't prove it because the volume of unreported cases is probably staggering, but pretty sure I'm done with further vaccines from here on out.
Can’t ask questions like thisDetroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:35 pm
I probably had it, no clue if I did or not because testing wasn't an option. Same with the wife. 2 "breakthrough" cases that went unreported.
So the question is...
Isn't your own immune system response to infection more robust than a vaccine...booster or not? And if so, doesn't that make a specific Omicron booster worthless since it seems like anyone that hasn't been infected yet, has been with omicron? Can't prove it because the volume of unreported cases is probably staggering, but pretty sure I'm done with further vaccines from here on out.
I'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:47 pmCan’t ask questions like thisDetroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:35 pm
I probably had it, no clue if I did or not because testing wasn't an option. Same with the wife. 2 "breakthrough" cases that went unreported.
So the question is...
Isn't your own immune system response to infection more robust than a vaccine...booster or not? And if so, doesn't that make a specific Omicron booster worthless since it seems like anyone that hasn't been infected yet, has been with omicron? Can't prove it because the volume of unreported cases is probably staggering, but pretty sure I'm done with further vaccines from here on out.![]()
It seems fairly obvi that the Omicron circumvents current vaccines, or at least circumvents them to the degree that a reasonable person can walk around maskless standing shoulder to shoulder with complete strangers and somehow be surprised that they picked up the Oma. It also seems that Oma is, on balance, far less severe that Corona Original (tm) and Corona Delta. E.g. by and large if do not have "co-moribidities" or are old AF, or fat AF, it is not going to put you on a ventilator or otherwise land you in in intensive care. I have had Pfizer X3 and unless some new uber Deadly strain arises, AND there is a vaccine developed for that specific strain that defeats it............I have done my duty on the vaccines. That said, I have like ZERO interest in being sick for 5, 10 or 20 days just like I don't want to get the flu and I will in fact NOT being standing shoulder to shoulder with complete strangers, masked or otherwise, until Oma blows through.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 pmI'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?
Just saying that once someone's body has successfully fought it off, how necessary is a follow-up vaccine? I guess that's not allowed to be asked because it calls into question the need for vaccines?
The question is omicron is statistically way milder than the other variants so was it the vaccine or was it the way milder infection.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 pmI'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?
Just saying that once someone's body has successfully fought it off, how necessary is a follow-up vaccine? I guess that's not allowed to be asked because it calls into question the need for vaccines?
Oh? Are you subscribing to the theory a whitehat intentionally released it? Like the eco health and NIAID grant proposed?max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 pmThe question is omicron is statistically way milder than the other variants so was it the vaccine or was it the way milder infection.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 pm
I'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?
Just saying that once someone's body has successfully fought it off, how necessary is a follow-up vaccine? I guess that's not allowed to be asked because it calls into question the need for vaccines?
Absolutely. No idea the root cause, or if I even had it to begin with. I've never been sick like that ever, and I've certainly never in my life been sick for 10 days straight, butmax225 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:23 pmThe question is omicron is statistically way milder than the other variants so was it the vaccine or was it the way milder infection.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 13, 2022 2:58 pm
I'm not saying vaccines are worthless. If I did indeed have COVID, it was rather easy...can't conclude that the vaccines I got in April and May had nothing to do with that. I also got a flu shot this year at my annual dr. visit, which may have done something to lessen my case?
Just saying that once someone's body has successfully fought it off, how necessary is a follow-up vaccine? I guess that's not allowed to be asked because it calls into question the need for vaccines?
Spoiler alert it's probably going to be positive, even if she is not because the tests suck. Wish you all a speedy recovery if you do fall ill.