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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:23 pm
D Griff wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:21 pm

I at least righted the ship somewhat in my mid to late 20s, but I would encourage younger dudes to not squander their 20s in a GTI getting water dumped on their heads from a busted sunroof.
Tell me about it :lol: I was happy :doe: , but still 7 years on an egg is enough. I was a little too responsible when I was in mid 20s.
Caymans are far too :waxer: these days.
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D Griff wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:57 pm
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I very much doubt that I could leave the engine alone. My dad's turbo FRS was :stig: :burnout: :impressive: ... until it got totalled by a freak hail storm.
I forgot about that... :sad: !

I do think an FI version would be fun but I think the 228 pure Japanese ponies would do the trick for me :lolol:

Big powah isn't all that useful where I live.
Big powah isn't really useful anywhere in reality.
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RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:28 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:23 pm

Tell me about it :lol: I was happy :doe: , but still 7 years on an egg is enough. I was a little too responsible when I was in mid 20s.
Caymans are far too :waxer: these days.
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One could get a dece Cayman for like $20-25K five years ago, that is certainly not the case now.
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I can't even find a poverty truck worth buying under $10k. The market is jacked beyond belief right now. Best to just strap into whatever you have and wait.
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Detroit wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:53 pm I can't even find a poverty truck worth buying under $10k. The market is jacked beyond belief right now. Best to just strap into whatever you have and wait.
Only exception is if you can sell your used car and get into something new you wanted anyway without paying over MSRP.
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coogles wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:39 pm
Detroit wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:53 pm I can't even find a poverty truck worth buying under $10k. The market is jacked beyond belief right now. Best to just strap into whatever you have and wait.
Only exception is if you can sell your used car and get into something new you wanted anyway without paying over MSRP.
Which is precisely what I’m trying to do now.
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coogles wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 3:39 pm
Detroit wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:53 pm I can't even find a poverty truck worth buying under $10k. The market is jacked beyond belief right now. Best to just strap into whatever you have and wait.
Only exception is if you can sell your used car and get into something new you wanted anyway without paying over MSRP.
Yep, which is how I justified what I did, in essence. And even then, you'd only want something with stellar residuals because in a year, discounts from MSRP will be easy.

Then actually finding something new on the lot you want is near impossible right now.
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RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:28 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:23 pm

Tell me about it :lol: I was happy :doe: , but still 7 years on an egg is enough. I was a little too responsible when I was in mid 20s.
Caymans are far too :waxer: these days.
at the time a 135i, e92 335is, mustang gt was the "this is it" car for me.
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Base audio in the new WRX. This is embarrassing. Downgrade in every way. How the hell a modern car company actually produces something like this is just... wow
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RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:09 pm
D Griff wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 1:57 pm

I forgot about that... :sad: !

I do think an FI version would be fun but I think the 228 pure Japanese ponies would do the trick for me :lolol:

Big powah isn't all that useful where I live.
I do need to drive one... a buddy of mine has a 2020 BRZ so I might ask to drive his to get an idea. I'm annoyed about availability in all of these. Who knows if I could get my hands on one of those or a new GLI in a good spec in any reasonable time frame. I want to minimize time dealing with :dillerman:
If you want to take delivery from [user not found]'s back yard again, I can get you the number 2 spot on the list behind me at MSRP.
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Base audio in the new WRX. This is embarrassing. Downgrade in every way. How the hell a modern car company actually produces something like this is just... wow
I think that’s only on the poverty trim? But yeah it’s terribad.
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fledonfoot wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:14 pm
RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:09 pm

I do need to drive one... a buddy of mine has a 2020 BRZ so I might ask to drive his to get an idea. I'm annoyed about availability in all of these. Who knows if I could get my hands on one of those or a new GLI in a good spec in any reasonable time frame. I want to minimize time dealing with :dillerman:
If you want to take delivery from [user not found]'s back yard again, I can get you the number 2 spot on the list behind me at MSRP.
:wat: ? The :jizz: rocket?
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RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:41 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:14 pm

If you want to take delivery from [user not found]'s back yard again, I can get you the number 2 spot on the list behind me at MSRP.
:wat: ? The :jizz: rocket?
His house is 5 minutes away from my old Toyota store in Lawrenceville NJ.
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fledonfoot wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:57 pm
RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:41 pm

:wat: ? The :jizz: rocket?
His house is 5 minutes away from my old Toyota store in Lawrenceville NJ.
Ah.
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fledonfoot wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:57 pm
RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 10:41 pm

:wat: ? The :jizz: rocket?
His house is 5 minutes away from my old Toyota store in Lawrenceville NJ.
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fledonfoot wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:14 pm
RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:09 pm

I do need to drive one... a buddy of mine has a 2020 BRZ so I might ask to drive his to get an idea. I'm annoyed about availability in all of these. Who knows if I could get my hands on one of those or a new GLI in a good spec in any reasonable time frame. I want to minimize time dealing with :dillerman:
If you want to take delivery from [user not found]'s back yard again, I can get you the number 2 spot on the list behind me at MSRP.
I'm not ready at the moment, but I may hit you up down the line if you can help get MSRP. I'm assuming they will be 20% over indefinitely for regular people.
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Johnny_P wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:55 pm
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Base audio in the new WRX. This is embarrassing. Downgrade in every way. How the hell a modern car company actually produces something like this is just... wow
I think that’s only on the poverty trim? But yeah it’s terribad.
Yea, but the poverty trim today doesn't feel like poverty like this does. It looks like a prototype thing for UX testing or something.

Replacing knobs with that screen is just :disgust: :butwhy:
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Detroit wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:39 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:55 pm

I think that’s only on the poverty trim? But yeah it’s terribad.
Yea, but the poverty trim today doesn't feel like poverty like this does. It looks like a prototype thing for UX testing or something.

Replacing knobs with that screen is just :disgust: :butwhy:
Yeah at that point, just make the poverty version the outgoing model's tech...
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D Griff wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:46 pm
Detroit wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:39 pm
Yea, but the poverty trim today doesn't feel like poverty like this does. It looks like a prototype thing for UX testing or something.

Replacing knobs with that screen is just :disgust: :butwhy:
Yeah at that point, just make the poverty version the outgoing model's tech...
Exactly!
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I think the massive screen and touch HVAC controls are really going to backfire in the WRX and STi. At least in the Outback it rides smoothly and has safety tech to save your ass if you wander out of your lane or approach another car too quickly, but the manual cars won't be getting any of the Eyesight tech. Take a system that already requires more attention than one with physical controls, then add in a stiffer suspension that makes it more difficult to accurately find the correct spot on a touchscreen and no safety nannies to keep an eye one you, and I think a lot of people are going to realize just how stupid these massive screens with sub-menus for everything really are.
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RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:28 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:23 pm

Tell me about it :lol: I was happy :doe: , but still 7 years on an egg is enough. I was a little too responsible when I was in mid 20s.
Caymans are far too :waxer: these days.
By egg I was referring to Golfs, GTI's :lol: Egg being directed on any car thats a golf is kind of a joke that started when we were together before this forum existed.
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Base audio in the new WRX. This is embarrassing. Downgrade in every way. How the hell a modern car company actually produces something like this is just... wow
I wouldn't be surprised if this came out in a 2008 ish :waxer: car.
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coogles wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:17 pm I think the massive screen and touch HVAC controls are really going to backfire in the WRX and STi. At least in the Outback it rides smoothly and has safety tech to save your ass if you wander out of your lane or approach another car too quickly, but the manual cars won't be getting any of the Eyesight tech. Take a system that already requires more attention than one with physical controls, then add in a stiffer suspension that makes it more difficult to accurately find the correct spot on a touchscreen and no safety nannies to keep an eye one you, and I think a lot of people are going to realize just how stupid these massive screens with sub-menus for everything really are.
It's going to be a usability nightmare.
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:07 pm
RLWake wrote: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:28 pm

Caymans are far too :waxer: these days.
By egg I was referring to Golfs, GTI's :lol: Egg being directed on any car thats a golf is kind of a joke that started when we were together before this forum existed.
I'm 99% sure I meant to quote the message you were quoting :fullretard:
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RLWake wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 3:36 pm
MexicanYarisTK wrote: Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:07 pm

By egg I was referring to Golfs, GTI's :lol: Egg being directed on any car thats a golf is kind of a joke that started when we were together before this forum existed.
I'm 99% sure I meant to quote the message you were quoting :fullretard:
I'm sure I'll feel better tomorrow :eeyore:. To be honest, I don't know where the cayman subject came from as I never really mentioned toying with a used cayman idea.
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