Her logic was my kid needs a sibling to play with.
Makes little sense to me. Plenty of only children grow up fine.
Thanks,Apex wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:08 pmY’all anti-grainers are rowdy AF.Detroit wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 4:01 pm
So much this. Many of us who go against the grain can be vocal, but all that matters is that you and your partner are on the identical page and on the way forward. I've seen too many people just go along with the flow of things and have kids and end up miserable. But I've also known many people that absolutely love it. The key is both people being on the same page.
We still haven't ruled out adoption at some point, but that's the closest we'd ever get and even that has maybe a 5% chance of happening.
But Griff, if ya got any questions just holler. My kiddo just turned 4.
Our Griff is growing up!D Griff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:58 pmThanks,
To be honest I was not about it for many years/most of my life... but things have changed and I look forward to it now. I know it will be really hard and sometimes a huge pain in the ass, but I actually look forward to the day quite a bit, assuming it works out.
Admittedly I kinda dread having a baby and enjoy like 3+ y.o. kids way more but it’s a short period/price to pay over the long haul.Apex wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:06 pmOur Griff is growing up!D Griff wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:58 pm
Thanks,
To be honest I was not about it for many years/most of my life... but things have changed and I look forward to it now. I know it will be really hard and sometimes a huge pain in the ass, but I actually look forward to the day quite a bit, assuming it works out.
People change along with their priorities as time goes on.
Absolutely they do. that's ridiculous. My sister came along 5 years after me, I was pissed because I had it good on my own. can't say she's significantly contributed to my life really.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
My wife straight refuses to be pregnant. says it's gross and painful, not worth it. I warned her that it's a short sighted view, but she's insistent. Cool by me, I really don't like being around kids.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
I'm really happy sharing life with my two boys, worth it 100%. In the end any reality becomes the yardstick you measure with, and it is impossible to visualize in great depth what "life would be like" if things were different... It is a lifestyle change which lasts a lifetime. Some people don't want to give up what they have and are , since there is no right or wrong really.
Shouldn’t be anything too irreversible. I’ll put some weight/fat back on immediately after the show. There will be some lasting effects from the drugs we use, but I do what I can to minimize those side effects and keep my doses as low as I can.
No offense, but I find it pretty crazy what you have to put yourself through to be competitive in these shows. If it's not sustainable or especially not healthy, what's the point overall? I'd be more interested in watching sustainably healthy people compete, instead this almost just becomes a battle of wills.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
All competition is like that in one way or another. Want to be CEO of Stellantis? Dedicate your whole life to it at the expense of everything else, including your physical and mental health.Detroit wrote:No offense, but I find it pretty crazy what you have to put yourself through to be competitive in these shows. If it's not sustainable or especially not healthy, what's the point overall? I'd be more interested in watching sustainably healthy people compete, instead this almost just becomes a battle of wills.
I find it fascinating because of all incredibly hard work you put in for years building up the physique, then forcing yourself gaunt to be competitive just seems silly. I know that's the game, but the game just seems a bit That sucks big time because you absolutely deserve accolades for all the hard work you put in, not your ability to starve yourself. Maybe that's the point? How bad you want it?
Just be healthy, man.
troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:06 amAll competition is like that in one way or another. Want to be CEO of Stellantis? Dedicate your whole life to it at the expense of everything else, including your physical and mental health.Detroit wrote: No offense, but I find it pretty crazy what you have to put yourself through to be competitive in these shows. If it's not sustainable or especially not healthy, what's the point overall? I'd be more interested in watching sustainably healthy people compete, instead this almost just becomes a battle of wills.
I find it fascinating because of all incredibly hard work you put in for years building up the physique, then forcing yourself gaunt to be competitive just seems silly. I know that's the game, but the game just seems a bit That sucks big time because you absolutely deserve accolades for all the hard work you put in, not your ability to starve yourself. Maybe that's the point? How bad you want it?
Just be healthy, man.
Want to win a bike race? Dedicate your whole life to it.
Wanna be a baller? Shot caller? 20 inch blades on the impala? Gotta bust your ass for it more than everyone else. Nearly all life achievements require out-competing a bunch of people.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:15 amtroyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:06 am All competition is like that in one way or another. Want to be CEO of Stellantis? Dedicate your whole life to it at the expense of everything else, including your physical and mental health.
Want to win a bike race? Dedicate your whole life to it.
Wanna be a baller? Shot caller? 20 inch blades on the impala? Gotta bust your ass for it more than everyone else. Nearly all life achievements require out-competing a bunch of people.
I'm just not a win at all costs type competitive person. Probably because I'm not devoted to anything enough to win. I'm happy just being happy.
Loser.
It's really just the human competitive nature. It's like anything... there's always just one more step you can take to get that slight competitive edge. With each passing competition, everyone seeks out that next "hit" of the new edge they can get, and it snowballs into "too much". Look at auto racing, it basically comes down to who has the most money and who has the most creative ways to "cheat" without getting caught or bend the rules just so.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:59 amNo offense, but I find it pretty crazy what you have to put yourself through to be competitive in these shows. If it's not sustainable or especially not healthy, what's the point overall? I'd be more interested in watching sustainably healthy people compete, instead this almost just becomes a battle of wills.
I find it fascinating because of all incredibly hard work you put in for years building up the physique, then forcing yourself gaunt to be competitive just seems silly. I know that's the game, but the game just seems a bit That sucks big time because you absolutely deserve accolades for all the hard work you put in, not your ability to starve yourself. Maybe that's the point? How bad you want it?
Just be healthy, man.
I'm not either, but so many people are, it is certainly innate in many humans.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:15 amtroyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:06 am All competition is like that in one way or another. Want to be CEO of Stellantis? Dedicate your whole life to it at the expense of everything else, including your physical and mental health.
Want to win a bike race? Dedicate your whole life to it.
Wanna be a baller? Shot caller? 20 inch blades on the impala? Gotta bust your ass for it more than everyone else. Nearly all life achievements require out-competing a bunch of people.
I'm just not a win at all costs type competitive person. Probably because I'm not devoted to anything enough to win. I'm happy just being happy.
Loser.
Yea, this is all true. But this is why I've never really gotten into competing at all. For me, this level of dedication reduces the fun, and if something isn't fun, I don't want to do it.D Griff wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 10:51 amIt's really just the human competitive nature. It's like anything... there's always just one more step you can take to get that slight competitive edge. With each passing competition, everyone seeks out that next "hit" of the new edge they can get, and it snowballs into "too much". Look at auto racing, it basically comes down to who has the most money and who has the most creative ways to "cheat" without getting caught or bend the rules just so.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:59 am
No offense, but I find it pretty crazy what you have to put yourself through to be competitive in these shows. If it's not sustainable or especially not healthy, what's the point overall? I'd be more interested in watching sustainably healthy people compete, instead this almost just becomes a battle of wills.
I find it fascinating because of all incredibly hard work you put in for years building up the physique, then forcing yourself gaunt to be competitive just seems silly. I know that's the game, but the game just seems a bit That sucks big time because you absolutely deserve accolades for all the hard work you put in, not your ability to starve yourself. Maybe that's the point? How bad you want it?
Just be healthy, man.
If you created a "sustainable" version of body building, people would simply keep adding a tiny bit more and more to what is accepted until it was back to the drugs and whatnot.
I don't really get the body building thing personally but I find 's dedication and physique truly amazing and respect it. We all love things that are dangerous whether it's drinking booze, over eating, racing cars/motorcycles, mountain biking or other adventure sports, body building, you name it. It's just how we're made.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
You and I are very similar in that regard. My goal in life is sustained fun. Work isn't fun, so I'm going to minimize that.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Jun 08, 2021 9:16 amIf you want to be a HAM Viking, that's not a fat and happy look. Time to go plunder the English coastline.
I've said this here before, but for me, being a very good Indian is more important, and a better fit for me, than being a Chief. We have more than enough chiefs here anyway.