Starting to dabble in real stocks. Bought some T and SMG this morning. T should be a good dividend stock to hold onto forever, price does nothing, but the dividend is appealing. Plus I think there's some upside in the business with HBO.
SMG is an attempt to get into pot without getting into pot.
I'd like to pick up some tech, but can't pick one. Anyone have some good tech ETFs? QQQ, VGT, etc?
Do you even invest?
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I am mixed on dividends... When you get paid you immediately get taxed. So a 10% dividend is more like 5%. Also dividend stocks like Verizon and ATT tend to be pumped for just that. so they have gone no where over time but they do certainly get depressed more so than others.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:47 pm Starting to dabble in real stocks. Bought some T and SMG this morning. T should be a good dividend stock to hold onto forever, price does nothing, but the dividend is appealing. Plus I think there's some upside in the business with HBO.
SMG is an attempt to get into pot without getting into pot.
I'd like to pick up some tech, but can't pick one. Anyone have some good tech ETFs? QQQ, VGT, etc?
I can't honestly recommend any stock at the moment. Because it all seems like a shit show.
The market has shifted from "tech" to Crypto/NFT
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I'm treating ATT somewhat as an inflation hedge because the price doesn't move and at least I'll get something back. I don't have much in it, but even 4% actual dividend is better than I'd get with any savings account. And I do think there's upside opportunity with T in particular.max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:51 pmI am mixed on dividends... When you get paid you immediately get taxed. So a 10% dividend is more like 5%. Also dividend stocks like Verizon and ATT tend to be pumped for just that. so they have gone no where over time but they do certainly get depressed more so than others.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:47 pm Starting to dabble in real stocks. Bought some T and SMG this morning. T should be a good dividend stock to hold onto forever, price does nothing, but the dividend is appealing. Plus I think there's some upside in the business with HBO.
SMG is an attempt to get into pot without getting into pot.
I'd like to pick up some tech, but can't pick one. Anyone have some good tech ETFs? QQQ, VGT, etc?
I can't honestly recommend any stock at the moment. Because it all seems like a shit show.
The market has shifted from "tech" to Crypto/NFT
I also think the market is a shitshow, so I'm having a lot of difficulty picking stocks. Most of my "investment" money is just in a managed portfolio with Ally where I can mostly forget about it. I'm just trying my hand at picking some to learn and see how it goes.
I don't understand NFT at all. Crypto seems to be something that might be worth getting into, but even that has me still


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If you want good dividends look at MFA as well.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 12:47 pm Starting to dabble in real stocks. Bought some T and SMG this morning. T should be a good dividend stock to hold onto forever, price does nothing, but the dividend is appealing. Plus I think there's some upside in the business with HBO.
SMG is an attempt to get into pot without getting into pot.
I'd like to pick up some tech, but can't pick one. Anyone have some good tech ETFs? QQQ, VGT, etc?

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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I don't understand anything anymore.
Jesus I remember buying and selling millions of doge in my ML bot. I did a friend a favor back in the day and he gave me $2 doge and it was like 500k doge, and literally a joke. Well shit. We still have clamcoin I guess.
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Talking heads... gotta own some bitcoin, dogcoin, leverage and grab more real estate, interest rates vs stock gainzzz, money is cheap... and on and on.
I haven't looked at that stuff seriously for about two years and I'm happier for it. R you still investing is stocks/etc?
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We have all invested in that dood. There may be returns, but its rarely $$
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I didn’t have a too great 2021 with anything I bought... my sole purchase was apple I thought that with pandemic etc everyone glued to phone ... it’ll go up due to people using more and more Apple products for longer periods of time.Tarspin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:23 amTalking heads... gotta own some bitcoin, dogcoin, leverage and grab more real estate, interest rates vs stock gainzzz, money is cheap... and on and on.
I haven't looked at that stuff seriously for about two years and I'm happier for it. R you still investing is stocks/etc?
But I am still down ... 50k put in and I’m at 48k 6 months later. So I’m staying out for now
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:29 amWe have all invested in that dood. There may be returns, but its rarely $$

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Somewhat unscathed,max225 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:57 amI didn’t have a too great 2021 with anything I bought... my sole purchase was apple I thought that with pandemic etc everyone glued to phone ... it’ll go up due to people using more and more Apple products for longer periods of time.Tarspin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:23 am
Talking heads... gotta own some bitcoin, dogcoin, leverage and grab more real estate, interest rates vs stock gainzzz, money is cheap... and on and on.
I haven't looked at that stuff seriously for about two years and I'm happier for it. R you still investing is stocks/etc?
But I am still down ... 50k put in and I’m at 48k 6 months later. So I’m staying out for now

Your point is valid, common sense doesn't yield appropriate returns. There are too many moving pieces, and much if it is rigged to hook derps like me to take my money.
Paying down debt is easiest when rates are low, and not doing so is foolish. I don't think rates will go anywhere, and when they move it will be 1/4 point at a time, with two to four increments. I don't think 1% is a big deal really, but pairing that with stock market losses starts to sting.
If there's a 30% correction, I'll be singing a different tune.
The wildcard will be how the next 2T stimulus package gets dispersed, it could be another decade of stock market grown.

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Yep. Lots and lots of variables but most stock essentially doubled in the last 12 months. Which leads me to believe that the dollar proportionally devalued. The next 12 months however seem to be a complete S show. It could keep climbing .... or it could correct. But I don’t see why it would correct with this much capital floating in the marketTarspin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:32 pmSomewhat unscathed,max225 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:57 am
I didn’t have a too great 2021 with anything I bought... my sole purchase was apple I thought that with pandemic etc everyone glued to phone ... it’ll go up due to people using more and more Apple products for longer periods of time.
But I am still down ... 50k put in and I’m at 48k 6 months later. So I’m staying out for now![]()
Your point is valid, common sense doesn't yield appropriate returns. There are too many moving pieces, and much if it is rigged to hook derps like me to take my money.
Paying down debt is easiest when rates are low, and not doing so is foolish. I don't think rates will go anywhere, and when they move it will be 1/4 point at a time, with two to four increments. I don't think 1% is a big deal really, but pairing that with stock market losses starts to sting.
If there's a 30% correction, I'll be singing a different tune.
The wildcard will be how the next 2T stimulus package gets dispersed, it could be another decade of stock market grown., it's just feels too much like gambling and I'm too dumb to predict trends.
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I got my clamcoin return.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 12:29 amWe have all invested in that dood. There may be returns, but its rarely $$

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A correction doesn't make sense to me either, but I'm also not seeing how there can be big upsides in the next year. Who knows, this is why I can't play that game.max225 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:49 pmYep. Lots and lots of variables but most stock essentially doubled in the last 12 months. Which leads me to believe that the dollar proportionally devalued. The next 12 months however seem to be a complete S show. It could keep climbing .... or it could correct. But I don’t see why it would correct with this much capital floating in the marketTarspin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:32 pm
Somewhat unscathed,![]()
Your point is valid, common sense doesn't yield appropriate returns. There are too many moving pieces, and much if it is rigged to hook derps like me to take my money.
Paying down debt is easiest when rates are low, and not doing so is foolish. I don't think rates will go anywhere, and when they move it will be 1/4 point at a time, with two to four increments. I don't think 1% is a big deal really, but pairing that with stock market losses starts to sting.
If there's a 30% correction, I'll be singing a different tune.
The wildcard will be how the next 2T stimulus package gets dispersed, it could be another decade of stock market grown., it's just feels too much like gambling and I'm too dumb to predict trends.
Covid cases in highly vaxxed societies are seeing resurrection of outbreaks thanks to variants. If that lands here I guess new lock-downs could fuck things up.
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Which highly vaxxed countries ?Tarspin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:15 pmA correction doesn't make sense to me either, but I'm also not seeing how there can be big upsides in the next year. Who knows, this is why I can't play that game.max225 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:49 pm
Yep. Lots and lots of variables but most stock essentially doubled in the last 12 months. Which leads me to believe that the dollar proportionally devalued. The next 12 months however seem to be a complete S show. It could keep climbing .... or it could correct. But I don’t see why it would correct with this much capital floating in the market
Covid cases in highly vaxxed societies are seeing resurrection of outbreaks thanks to variants. If that lands here I guess new lock-downs could fuck things up.
The only one I can think of is Israel that is comparable to the US. Their case counts are fairly low
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Yeah, Isreal is the world leader. UK and Chile both nearing 50%, but they are using A-Z in the UK, and something lesser known in Chile. I don't think that those products are able to protect against variants.max225 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:37 pmWhich highly vaxxed countries ?Tarspin wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:15 pm
A correction doesn't make sense to me either, but I'm also not seeing how there can be big upsides in the next year. Who knows, this is why I can't play that game.
Covid cases in highly vaxxed societies are seeing resurrection of outbreaks thanks to variants. If that lands here I guess new lock-downs could fuck things up.
The only one I can think of is Israel that is comparable to the US. Their case counts are fairly low
I need to look into what's going on there.