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It's absolutely an illusion, a mindset, really. But if it doesn't exist, the same principle applies to misery.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
What if misery is the base human state, and we attempt to fool ourselves into being productive meat popsicles to better quantify our miserable existences on this rock?
Absolutely it is.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
That's exactly what I'm talking about! Find what you value at your core to make you happy. I'm similar, minimal stress and easy schedule. I'm willing to sacrifice material possessions to get there.[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:51 amYep. I'm not about that rat race either anymore.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:38 am
Absolutely it is.
It's why I keep mentioning that life isn't a race and to not compare others. We're all conditioned that working hard, getting promoted, making more money to buy more stuff or live in a fancier areas, or whatever "rat race" is the way to happiness. While it is for many, it's not for all. And those that are truly happy are happy with themselves in their current state, regardless of status/possessions.
Finding happiness in a situation where everything seems miserable is the largest challenge we as humans face. Most just ignore it and work harder to buy things to compensate then measure their accumulation against others to feel better about their "achievements". It's a never ending treadmill that's constantly increasing speed, eventually your legs can't keep up and you fly off. Get off before that happens.
I'm not going tothat "money doesn't buy happiness". It absolutely does, but not to buy stuff, to buy stability to maintain an existing state of happiness/contentment.
This year has made me re-evaluate everything. I'm closer to a hippie now than anything else, so you can tell me to fuck right off and that's cool. But I encourage everyone take a moment for introspection to at least to find what makes you happy without stuff/property/things. It's an interesting challenge.
Scheming ways to run a side business photographing things that go on BAT/Carsandbids/Radforsale, plus do the Momentum Worx stuff. I'm all about separating thefrom their wallets.
I want to be in charge of my schedule and do the things I want to do and keep my stress low. That's happiness for me.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
Apex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:02 pm Y’all get to have your happiness and live your best lives. That’s absolutely phenomenal for you guys, super stoked that you get to enjoy it.
Dplac is bunker in the woods motor boating titties all day, [user not found] get to ride thousands and thousands of miles a year with his friends on bikes. Max is crushing life out in Cali, Troy gets to be Florida man and enjoy 80+ degrees year round. Wap is just itching for travel to open back up so he can hike across Europe again, iTrudy slaying that CorpSec life moving up the ladder looking to buy/build a fresh place in TX. JohnnyP chilling with the kid and they seem to be getting along much better these days. Zilch gets to rip ToTD and surrounding areas on dat fresh KTM on his lunch breaks while his lovely bride has epic IG food pron going on. Irish built a dope AF basement while sponge bathing our waps. We don’t even need to talk about Breh and the Mexican condo oasis.
AND it's important to remember the difference between perceived happiness on the internet and ACTUAL REAL happiness IRL. Some of the most miserable people I've known are "slaying life" in most objective measures.[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:06 pmYour happiness is out there man.Apex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:02 pm Y’all get to have your happiness and live your best lives. That’s absolutely phenomenal for you guys, super stoked that you get to enjoy it.
Dplac is bunker in the woods motor boating titties all day, [user not found] get to ride thousands and thousands of miles a year with his friends on bikes. Max is crushing life out in Cali, Troy gets to be Florida man and enjoy 80+ degrees year round. Wap is just itching for travel to open back up so he can hike across Europe again, iTrudy slaying that CorpSec life moving up the ladder looking to buy/build a fresh place in TX. JohnnyP chilling with the kid and they seem to be getting along much better these days. Zilch gets to rip ToTD and surrounding areas on dat fresh KTM on his lunch breaks while his lovely bride has epic IG food pron going on. Irish built a dope AF basement while sponge bathing our waps. We don’t even need to talk about Breh and the Mexican condo oasis.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
Doubtful. Only thing I can do is try to make sure my daughter looks her best on the stripper pole. Because I have nothing else to offer.[user not found] wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:06 pmYour happiness is out there man.Apex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:02 pm Y’all get to have your happiness and live your best lives. That’s absolutely phenomenal for you guys, super stoked that you get to enjoy it.
Dplac is bunker in the woods motor boating titties all day, [user not found] get to ride thousands and thousands of miles a year with his friends on bikes. Max is crushing life out in Cali, Troy gets to be Florida man and enjoy 80+ degrees year round. Wap is just itching for travel to open back up so he can hike across Europe again, iTrudy slaying that CorpSec life moving up the ladder looking to buy/build a fresh place in TX. JohnnyP chilling with the kid and they seem to be getting along much better these days. Zilch gets to rip ToTD and surrounding areas on dat fresh KTM on his lunch breaks while his lovely bride has epic IG food pron going on. Irish built a dope AF basement while sponge bathing our waps. We don’t even need to talk about Breh and the Mexican condo oasis.
You still make more than the majority of the country, you own a home which most will never get to claim, you are far wealthier than the common man, you chose poverty truck life to enable boat life and other activities, you enjoy working with your hands so fixing up your bunker isn’t the end of the world, etc.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:13 pmAND it's important to remember the difference between perceived happiness on the internet and ACTUAL REAL happiness IRL. Some of the most miserable people I've known are "slaying life" in most objective measures.
I could pick apart my life choices and make myself miserable if I chose to. I HATE my job/company, my income will be dwindling, my net worth pales in comparison to many, I drive a poverty truck, my wife is depressed with increasing frequency, my house needs a ridiculous amount of work, etc, etc, etc. Those are just elements of life that need to be accepted/improved/ignored, you'll never eliminate all of them. It's how you deal with them that matters, and if you're happy at your core, you will.
And you get to go home every day to an adorableApex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:02 pm Y’all get to have your happiness and live your best lives. That’s absolutely phenomenal for you guys, super stoked that you get to enjoy it.
Dplac is bunker in the woods motor boating titties all day, [user not found] get to ride thousands and thousands of miles a year with his friends on bikes. Max is crushing life out in Cali, Troy gets to be Florida man and enjoy 80+ degrees year round. Wap is just itching for travel to open back up so he can hike across Europe again, iTrudy slaying that CorpSec life moving up the ladder looking to buy/build a fresh place in TX. JohnnyP chilling with the kid and they seem to be getting along much better these days. Zilch gets to rip ToTD and surrounding areas on dat fresh KTM on his lunch breaks while his lovely bride has epic IG food pron going on. Irish built a dope AF basement while sponge bathing our waps. We don’t even need to talk about Breh and the Mexican condo oasis.
But you are comparing yourself to Chris. He’s trying to say that you have specific experiences, skill sets, talents, hobbies that he doesn’t. Finding happiness in those and yourself will help you deal with the shit you aren’t.Apex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:28 pmYou still make more than the majority of the country, you own a home which most will never get to claim, you are far wealthier than the common man, you chose poverty truck life to enable boat life and other activities, you enjoy working with your hands so fixing up your bunker isn’t the end of the world, etc.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:13 pm
AND it's important to remember the difference between perceived happiness on the internet and ACTUAL REAL happiness IRL. Some of the most miserable people I've known are "slaying life" in most objective measures.
I could pick apart my life choices and make myself miserable if I chose to. I HATE my job/company, my income will be dwindling, my net worth pales in comparison to many, I drive a poverty truck, my wife is depressed with increasing frequency, my house needs a ridiculous amount of work, etc, etc, etc. Those are just elements of life that need to be accepted/improved/ignored, you'll never eliminate all of them. It's how you deal with them that matters, and if you're happy at your core, you will.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
I think it's 50/50... it will come crashing down on some people. You, for example, took a pretty big risk, but you took steps to make sure that if the worst happens, you're still covered. Others likely took similar risk but bought homes at stretch pay levels because they "had to" with the crazy prices and stuff. Others spent way too much on toys that will sit and drop off in value once things go back to normal. I can't imagine industry/jobs in Northern MI will be able to keep up with average homes costing $500K though. Either the rich people who bought (second) homes there will move back out at a big loss or the poor locals will be forced to go live in Detroit when the prices thereDetroit wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:20 amSame exact thing where we live. Local jobs pay terribad, yet basic houses are nearly $500k if you don't want to live in a trailer park setting. It's gone nuts, which I'm shocked to see happening in the middle of nowhere northern MI.troyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:11 am Jobs available there look to be 30-60% pay cutsso local work is really a last resort. Dunno how people are paying $500k+ for houses on $50k salaries, even as DINKs...
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The real estate market in more desirable places is running away from local realities, it's wild. There must be THAT much remote work to keep the markets up. Or offices will go back to normal and it will all come crashing down. Which is why we bought WAY below our means so we can make all our living expenses by working retail if it comes down to that. In the short/medium term I plan to find a permanent remote job (very possibly my current one) but ultimately, I'd like to do my own thing, just not sure what that is yet.
razr390 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 11:57 am Most truly wealthy people have their own business and have usually eaten shit for a few years and then hit it big.
Doing the rat race ladder climb only gets you so far. And in doing so you don’t always do it on your terms.
I wish I had some ideas for some small businesses that I could start, but I’m overthinking it at the moment and that means nothing will come of it.
Some days I told myself I wouldn’t mind going back to Florida and joining their Highway Patrol, making decent money and getting the time to learn/study/etc while getting paid to drive. I’d like to be the FHP guy that goes to events, schools, says hi to people at travel stops, etc.
Johnny_P wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:06 pmApex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:02 pm Y’all get to have your happiness and live your best lives. That’s absolutely phenomenal for you guys, super stoked that you get to enjoy it.
Dplac is bunker in the woods motor boating titties all day, [user not found] get to ride thousands and thousands of miles a year with his friends on bikes. Max is crushing life out in Cali, Troy gets to be Florida man and enjoy 80+ degrees year round. Wap is just itching for travel to open back up so he can hike across Europe again, iTrudy slaying that CorpSec life moving up the ladder looking to buy/build a fresh place in TX. JohnnyP chilling with the kid and they seem to be getting along much better these days. Zilch gets to rip ToTD and surrounding areas on dat fresh KTM on his lunch breaks while his lovely bride has epic IG food pron going on. Irish built a dope AF basement while sponge bathing our waps. We don’t even need to talk about Breh and the Mexican condo oasis.
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Oh dood. No one is saying that. I, and I think others here, just wanted to highlight the many decent things in your life. Forest for the trees and all. You're one of the
FWIW, we only post the good shit..Apex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:02 pm Y’all get to have your happiness and live your best lives. That’s absolutely phenomenal for you guys, super stoked that you get to enjoy it.
Dplac is bunker in the woods motor boating titties all day, [user not found] get to ride thousands and thousands of miles a year with his friends on bikes. Max is crushing life out in Cali, Troy gets to be Florida man and enjoy 80+ degrees year round. Wap is just itching for travel to open back up so he can hike across Europe again, iTrudy slaying that CorpSec life moving up the ladder looking to buy/build a fresh place in TX. JohnnyP chilling with the kid and they seem to be getting along much better these days. Zilch gets to rip ToTD and surrounding areas on dat fresh KTM on his lunch breaks while his lovely bride has epic IG food pron going on. Irish built a dope AF basement while sponge bathing our waps. We don’t even need to talk about Breh and the Mexican condo oasis.
I haven't been posting much, because I found I was only complaining.4zilch wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:39 pmFWIW, we only post the good shit..Apex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:02 pm Y’all get to have your happiness and live your best lives. That’s absolutely phenomenal for you guys, super stoked that you get to enjoy it.
Dplac is bunker in the woods motor boating titties all day, [user not found] get to ride thousands and thousands of miles a year with his friends on bikes. Max is crushing life out in Cali, Troy gets to be Florida man and enjoy 80+ degrees year round. Wap is just itching for travel to open back up so he can hike across Europe again, iTrudy slaying that CorpSec life moving up the ladder looking to buy/build a fresh place in TX. JohnnyP chilling with the kid and they seem to be getting along much better these days. Zilch gets to rip ToTD and surrounding areas on dat fresh KTM on his lunch breaks while his lovely bride has epic IG food pron going on. Irish built a dope AF basement while sponge bathing our waps. We don’t even need to talk about Breh and the Mexican condo oasis.
4zilch wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 1:39 pmFWIW, we only post the good shit..Apex wrote: ↑Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:02 pm Y’all get to have your happiness and live your best lives. That’s absolutely phenomenal for you guys, super stoked that you get to enjoy it.
Dplac is bunker in the woods motor boating titties all day, [user not found] get to ride thousands and thousands of miles a year with his friends on bikes. Max is crushing life out in Cali, Troy gets to be Florida man and enjoy 80+ degrees year round. Wap is just itching for travel to open back up so he can hike across Europe again, iTrudy slaying that CorpSec life moving up the ladder looking to buy/build a fresh place in TX. JohnnyP chilling with the kid and they seem to be getting along much better these days. Zilch gets to rip ToTD and surrounding areas on dat fresh KTM on his lunch breaks while his lovely bride has epic IG food pron going on. Irish built a dope AF basement while sponge bathing our waps. We don’t even need to talk about Breh and the Mexican condo oasis.
Seriously though, it's not always sunshine and rainbows. I'm very much a person that lives moment to moment, but its not to say that thoughts from things from the past, or concerns about the future don't overwhelm me from time to time. In terms of work, I don't particularly like my company or some of their current direction, but I'm good at what I do, and I feel at least somewhat valued so it's enough for me. Work is simply a means that provides stability. I'm not a ladder climber, nor do I really aspire to have my own fulltime business. And I was happy before moving and before Jill, and quite frankly, I'd still be pretty happy if it were all gone tomorrow.
I know this is all quite easy for me to sit back and say "just be happy" but I have been on a journey similar to yours in my younger days, so if I were to give any piece of advice it's to surround yourself with people who are willing to listen - sometimes commiserating, and sometimes providing a welcome distraction from the everyday suck - even if it's a bunch of fucks like us on the internet. My other piece of advice would be to consider doing some reading on mindfulness and Buddhist practices you might (or might not) find it helpful to get you into a different state of mind. Lastly understand that it's OK to feel the way that you feel, but we're hear to listen, or distract, or help, etc.