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Any updates on your move here? I am vaccinated so we can hang out :hue:
My friend is still requesting tours. The place in Sardis was nice, but we want a 4th bedroom for visitors/home office and that house didn't have that. I believe my friend has a couple more tours scheduled. The tough part is driveway size. I'm getting antsy though and kinda want to go down for a weekend for the hell of it.

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C5 to C6 GS is the perfect :plac: move, 2008 C6 Z51 is second best. :doit: Griffballz!
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I want to own Desertbreh's C6GS. Current exchange rates still bring it to $50k plus travel costs, etc. Too rich for my wallet at this stage in the game.
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Tarspin wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:57 am C5 to C6 GS is the perfect :plac: move, 2008 C6 Z51 is second best. :doit: Griffballz!
Either way Griff needs to strike a balance between cost and mileage. He doesn't need to pay for a garage queen he's going to eff up on track days, but he does need to pay enough that he's making a significant improvement over his current ride.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:16 am
Tarspin wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:57 am C5 to C6 GS is the perfect :plac: move, 2008 C6 Z51 is second best. :doit: Griffballz!
Either way Griff needs to strike a balance between cost and mileage. He doesn't need to pay for a garage queen he's going to eff up on track days, but he does need to pay enough that he's making a significant improvement over his current ride.
The 2008 base/Z51 has significant improvements over my old 2005 and doesn't cost that much more; I'm with you on the idea of upgrading the car in a budget conscious way, as opposed to modding the C5.
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Tarspin wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:29 am
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:16 am

Either way Griff needs to strike a balance between cost and mileage. He doesn't need to pay for a garage queen he's going to eff up on track days, but he does need to pay enough that he's making a significant improvement over his current ride.
The 2008 base/Z51 has significant improvements over my old 2005 and doesn't cost that much more; I'm with you on the idea of upgrading the car in a budget conscious way, as opposed to modding the C5.
LS3, Tremec 6060 are the biggies. The widebody on the GS looks awesome, and was a primary reason for my purchase, but a square setup is probably better for the track and certainly cheaper to feed new tires to/can be rotated. I think Acid has crazy huge front tires for AutoX. but I don't know how that translates to everyday use and track use. The major advantage the GS has over the Z51 are the six piston front/4 piston rear calipers, I suppose those could be swapped. Should probably wait for a few months to see what happens to the used car market once the COVID starts to recede.
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Tarspin wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:59 am I want to own Desertbreh's C6GS. Current exchange rates still bring it to $50k plus travel costs, etc. Too rich for my wallet at this stage in the game.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 pm
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The 2008 base/Z51 has significant improvements over my old 2005 and doesn't cost that much more; I'm with you on the idea of upgrading the car in a budget conscious way, as opposed to modding the C5.
LS3, Tremec 6060 are the biggies. The widebody on the GS looks awesome, and was a primary reason for my purchase, but a square setup is probably better for the track and certainly cheaper to feed new tires to/can be rotated. I think Acid has crazy huge front tires for AutoX. but I don't know how that translates to everyday use and track use. The major advantage the GS has over the Z51 are the six piston front/4 piston rear calipers, I suppose those could be swapped. Should probably wait for a few months to see what happens to the used car market once the COVID starts to recede.
Don't forget that :manuel: GS's got dry sump oiling too. They're built to be track beasts straight from the factory.

Brakes are insane, but they're pretty expensive to service. That's the only downside there.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 pm

LS3, Tremec 6060 are the biggies. The widebody on the GS looks awesome, and was a primary reason for my purchase, but a square setup is probably better for the track and certainly cheaper to feed new tires to/can be rotated. I think Acid has crazy huge front tires for AutoX. but I don't know how that translates to everyday use and track use. The major advantage the GS has over the Z51 are the six piston front/4 piston rear calipers, I suppose those could be swapped. Should probably wait for a few months to see what happens to the used car market once the COVID starts to recede.
Don't forget that :manuel: GS's got dry sump oiling too. They're built to be track beasts straight from the factory.

Brakes are insane, but they're pretty expensive to service. That's the only downside there.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:15 pm
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Don't forget that :manuel: GS's got dry sump oiling too. They're built to be track beasts straight from the factory.

Brakes are insane, but they're pretty expensive to service. That's the only downside there.
True true. +rear battery, forged crank and dat handbuilt :wub:
Yep, they're actually rather special, and I think deserving of the price premium. I've wanted an inferno orange car for a while now.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 pm
Tarspin wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:29 am

The 2008 base/Z51 has significant improvements over my old 2005 and doesn't cost that much more; I'm with you on the idea of upgrading the car in a budget conscious way, as opposed to modding the C5.
LS3, Tremec 6060 are the biggies. The widebody on the GS looks awesome, and was a primary reason for my purchase, but a square setup is probably better for the track and certainly cheaper to feed new tires to/can be rotated. I think Acid has crazy huge front tires for AutoX. but I don't know how that translates to everyday use and track use. The major advantage the GS has over the Z51 are the six piston front/4 piston rear calipers, I suppose those could be swapped. Should probably wait for a few months to see what happens to the used car market once the COVID starts to recede.
Yeah, the GS does look WAY better, honestly that's a big selling point for me. Better brakes would be :nice: as well, although my current brakes work fine. Square tires certainly are advantageous but that is easy to remedy.

I am :notsure: if I'm willing to pay the premium for one just to beat on it :doe: :iono:

Maybe if I can find one in the low thirties range with a few more miles.

I am thinking all of this over, I need to get out and test drive cars. I actually missed a shift due to the clutch on the highway this AM... which is not great. I thought it was limited to the track (granted I was beating on the car leading up to this moment). I did talk it over with the wife a little bit last night. She was surprisingly chill about it and seems to want me to do what I want to do. I guess she recognizes that I am a cheapass and most of our spending is done by/for her, whereas 2/3+ of the earnings come from me.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:41 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 pm

LS3, Tremec 6060 are the biggies. The widebody on the GS looks awesome, and was a primary reason for my purchase, but a square setup is probably better for the track and certainly cheaper to feed new tires to/can be rotated. I think Acid has crazy huge front tires for AutoX. but I don't know how that translates to everyday use and track use. The major advantage the GS has over the Z51 are the six piston front/4 piston rear calipers, I suppose those could be swapped. Should probably wait for a few months to see what happens to the used car market once the COVID starts to recede.
Yeah, the GS does look WAY better, honestly that's a big selling point for me. Better brakes would be :nice: as well, although my current brakes work fine. Square tires certainly are advantageous but that is easy to remedy.

I am :notsure: if I'm willing to pay the premium for one just to beat on it :doe: :iono:

Maybe if I can find one in the low thirties range with a few more miles.

I am thinking all of this over, I need to get out and test drive cars. I actually missed a shift due to the clutch on the highway this AM... which is not great. I thought it was limited to the track (granted I was beating on the car leading up to this moment). I did talk it over with the wife a little bit last night. She was surprisingly chill about it and seems to want me to do what I want to do. I guess she recognizes that I am a cheapass and most of our spending is done by/for her, whereas 2/3+ of the earnings come from me.
I swore 6 years ago that I'd pick up a C6GS when they dipped into the 20's, and that never happened. I think they're a tremendous value in the low $30k range, and worth keeping an eye out for.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:41 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 pm

LS3, Tremec 6060 are the biggies. The widebody on the GS looks awesome, and was a primary reason for my purchase, but a square setup is probably better for the track and certainly cheaper to feed new tires to/can be rotated. I think Acid has crazy huge front tires for AutoX. but I don't know how that translates to everyday use and track use. The major advantage the GS has over the Z51 are the six piston front/4 piston rear calipers, I suppose those could be swapped. Should probably wait for a few months to see what happens to the used car market once the COVID starts to recede.
Yeah, the GS does look WAY better, honestly that's a big selling point for me. Better brakes would be :nice: as well, although my current brakes work fine. Square tires certainly are advantageous but that is easy to remedy.

I am :notsure: if I'm willing to pay the premium for one just to beat on it :doe: :iono:

Maybe if I can find one in the low thirties range with a few more miles.

I am thinking all of this over, I need to get out and test drive cars. I actually missed a shift due to the clutch on the highway this AM... which is not great. I thought it was limited to the track (granted I was beating on the car leading up to this moment). I did talk it over with the wife a little bit last night. She was surprisingly chill about it and seems to want me to do what I want to do. I guess she recognizes that I am a cheapass and most of our spending is done by/for her, whereas 2/3+ of the earnings come from me.


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There a plenty of VERY NICE C6GS in the MID Thirties, and if you are madbro because the car you want costs 36 grand not 32 grand I don't know what to tell you in an era of $180K Sprinter vans with butcher block interiors.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:51 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:41 pm

Yeah, the GS does look WAY better, honestly that's a big selling point for me. Better brakes would be :nice: as well, although my current brakes work fine. Square tires certainly are advantageous but that is easy to remedy.

I am :notsure: if I'm willing to pay the premium for one just to beat on it :doe: :iono:

Maybe if I can find one in the low thirties range with a few more miles.

I am thinking all of this over, I need to get out and test drive cars. I actually missed a shift due to the clutch on the highway this AM... which is not great. I thought it was limited to the track (granted I was beating on the car leading up to this moment). I did talk it over with the wife a little bit last night. She was surprisingly chill about it and seems to want me to do what I want to do. I guess she recognizes that I am a cheapass and most of our spending is done by/for her, whereas 2/3+ of the earnings come from me.


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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:54 pm There a plenty of VERY NICE C6GS in the MID Thirties, and if you are madbro because the car you want costs 36 grand not 32 grand I don't know what to tell you in an era of $180K Sprinter vans with butcher block interiors.
A nice C6GS in the mid 30s sounds like a lot of car for the money to me. Fat fenders, targa top, dry sump LS3 with a TR6060 for $35k? Yeah, sign me up.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:54 pm There a plenty of VERY NICE C6GS in the MID Thirties, and if you are madbro because the car you want costs 36 grand not 32 grand I don't know what to tell you in an era of $180K Sprinter vans with butcher block interiors.
More to think about. It is more like... is it worth a $10K premium over a Z51? In many ways the answer (to me) is yes. BUT, let's say things do change and I sell the car in two years because I'm not a dad and don't want to have two cars or whatever such thing, will tracking destroy that $10K premium.

I am certainly not a 'I'm buying a car as an investment' guy, but I also don't want to lose my ass. 40% loss on my :mk6: in 2.5 years was pretty meh, 40% loss on my :poorvette: in 7 years is :notbad:
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D Griff wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:19 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:54 pm There a plenty of VERY NICE C6GS in the MID Thirties, and if you are madbro because the car you want costs 36 grand not 32 grand I don't know what to tell you in an era of $180K Sprinter vans with butcher block interiors.
More to think about. It is more like... is it worth a $10K premium over a Z51? In many ways the answer (to me) is yes. BUT, let's say things do change and I sell the car in two years because I'm not a dad and don't want to have two cars or whatever such thing, will tracking destroy that $10K premium.

I am certainly not a 'I'm buying a car as an investment' guy, but I also don't want to lose my ass. 40% loss on my :mk6: in 2.5 years was pretty meh, 40% loss on my :poorvette: in 7 years is :notbad:
Brand new one for $40K ask.

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Probably about in the sweet spot. 4LT, Leather encrusted. Offer $33K.

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D Griff wrote: Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:18 pm
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If you go the shop route, have them do gears at the same time. Put the :plac: to rest and have a beast of a vette for track days.
Thing is, the best place to get the gears done "doesn't do clutch work" so it gets a bit more complicated. It is also like $3K. I am :notsure: if the 4.10s actually make it better/more fun on track, they definitely do on the street.

All of that out of the way, I like where your head's at and that is likely the answer. The thing is just so fun and I love it. If I keep it, I will likely wind up in something more like a GTI/Si/Mini/FoST when I need a daily again rather than their big brothers, but probably :poorvette: + FoST > FoRS. Maybe I can just :troywax: on widening the driveway to make three cars less annoying.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:19 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:54 pm There a plenty of VERY NICE C6GS in the MID Thirties, and if you are madbro because the car you want costs 36 grand not 32 grand I don't know what to tell you in an era of $180K Sprinter vans with butcher block interiors.
More to think about. It is more like... is it worth a $10K premium over a Z51? In many ways the answer (to me) is yes. BUT, let's say things do change and I sell the car in two years because I'm not a dad and don't want to have two cars or whatever such thing, will tracking destroy that $10K premium.

I am certainly not a 'I'm buying a car as an investment' guy, but I also don't want to lose my ass. 40% loss on my :mk6: in 2.5 years was pretty meh, 40% loss on my :poorvette: in 7 years is :notbad:
Just don't buy a creampuff. Buy something with ~50k-70k miles on it and maybe not in the prettiest shape. That way the hit from use won't be as bad.

A low $30k example will always be mid $20's at the worst. Especially a GS because of the desirable hardware.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:57 pm Probably about in the sweet spot. 4LT, Leather encrusted. Offer $33K.

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4LT is legit :nice:

I don't see how this car could be worth less than mid $20k in a few years even with some tracking and miles.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:57 pm Probably about in the sweet spot. 4LT, Leather encrusted. Offer $33K.

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wap wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 4:32 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:57 pm Probably about in the sweet spot. 4LT, Leather encrusted. Offer $33K.

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WITH A COMPASS!!
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Detroit wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:00 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:57 pm Probably about in the sweet spot. 4LT, Leather encrusted. Offer $33K.

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4LT is legit :nice:

I don't see how this car could be worth less than mid $20k in a few years even with some tracking and miles.
Gonna lose 10k if you beat a GS to shit, and you're gonna lose 10K if you beat a LS3 Z51 to shit too IMO.

I love that red one since it's nearly the same color so most people won't even realize you did a :waxer: upgrade
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