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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:33 am You guys are Zilspec Felons.
I washed my car Monday :rage:

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Fucking bullshit this snow and salt winter blows
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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:33 am You guys are Zilspec Felons.
:lolol: :ohwell:
Reality is what it is. Ain't nobody washing their car when it's 14F out and the minute you drive it it'll end up looking just like it did before you washed it.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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wap wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:17 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:33 am You guys are Zilspec Felons.
:lolol: :ohwell:
Reality is what it is. Ain't nobody washing their car when it's 14F out and the minute you drive it it'll end up looking just like it did before you washed it.
There was this detailer on the bimmerforums that completely blew my mind. They would spend 12 hrs and presumably $1500 sent to the customer on their car... And it would be dead in the middle of winter, so .. they would roll out this "PAINT CORRECTED" car into the slushy brown snow and I presume the customer would drive it home. Undoing it all within 15 min.

I pointed this out and got nearly banned. I make friends everywhere I go it seems.
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max225 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:31 pm
wap wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:17 pm

:lolol: :ohwell:
Reality is what it is. Ain't nobody washing their car when it's 14F out and the minute you drive it it'll end up looking just like it did before you washed it.
There was this detailer on the bimmerforums that completely blew my mind. They would spend 12 hrs and presumably $1500 sent to the customer on their car... And it would be dead in the middle of winter, so .. they would roll out this "PAINT CORRECTED" car into the slushy brown snow and I presume the customer would drive it home. Undoing it all within 15 min.

I pointed this out and got nearly banned. I make friends everywhere I go it seems.
Yup. It makes zero sense in the snow belt.

And :lolol: on the bolded.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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wap wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:16 am
CaleDeRoo wrote:My car is so disgustingly filthy from snow and salt. Washed it Monday and it's dirtier than it's ever been already.

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Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:33 am You guys are Zilspec Felons.

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4zilch wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:39 pm
wap wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:16 am :bruh:

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wap wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:33 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:31 pm

There was this detailer on the bimmerforums that completely blew my mind. They would spend 12 hrs and presumably $1500 sent to the customer on their car... And it would be dead in the middle of winter, so .. they would roll out this "PAINT CORRECTED" car into the slushy brown snow and I presume the customer would drive it home. Undoing it all within 15 min.

I pointed this out and got nearly banned. I make friends everywhere I go it seems.
Yup. It makes zero sense in the snow belt.

And :lolol: on the bolded.
I get throwing a coat of wax on in the fall to protect it... but then just leave it be until March :lolol:

Washing the paint constantly with all of that grit on it will do more harm than good honestly.
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razr390 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:39 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:33 am You guys are Zilspec Felons.

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D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:56 pm

I get throwing a coat of wax on in the fall to protect it... but then just leave it be until March :lolol:

Washing the paint constantly with all of that grit on it will do more harm than good honestly.
Leaving the salt on it causes more harm than good if it's over 20 degrees.

When it's below 20, leave it. When it warms up to 20+, at least rinse it off, and make sure you do a heavy dousing of the undercarriage. I prefer a self-service car wash with a high pressure sprayer for this, unless you have a pressure washer.

Also, don't park it in a heated garage if it's caked in salt.

But hey, you do you. :ohwell:
There is no salt here so it's not really something I'm expert in. If I ever drive somewhere with it, I always wait to be back home and then do a thorough cleaning + undercarriage clean as well.
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:13 pm
D Griff wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:56 pm

I get throwing a coat of wax on in the fall to protect it... but then just leave it be until March :lolol:

Washing the paint constantly with all of that grit on it will do more harm than good honestly.
Leaving the salt on it causes more harm than good if it's over 20 degrees.

When it's below 20, leave it. When it warms up to 20+, at least rinse it off, and make sure you do a heavy dousing of the undercarriage. I prefer a self-service car wash with a high pressure sprayer for this, unless you have a pressure washer.

Also, don't park it in a heated garage if it's caked in salt.

But hey, you do you. :ohwell:
Rinsing off salt if possible would be an absolute must IMO. I have done it every time after coming down a mountain, rain or shine.
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4zilch wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:39 pm
wap wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:16 am :bruh:

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:wap: Where are these mangos?
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razr390 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:39 pm
Desertbreh wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:33 am You guys are Zilspec Felons.

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:wap: Where are these mangos?
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I haven't washed the mini since October and the taco since November ... they are still "ok" garaging does wonders, but they are due in for wash after any rain hits em though. :disgust:
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Can't rinse at home because all the hose petcocks need to be kept off in the winter less they freeze. And, AFAIK, car washes are closed during the winter here. But I'm not entirely sure about that. I pass a few on the way home from work. I'll check tonight to see if any of them are open. But the problem is, even if you could rinse off at a self-serve car wash, you can't dry it thoroughly enough so by the time you got a couple miles away you'd be stuck in the car because the doors would be frozen shut. :lol:
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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Also, I did put a coat of wax on in the fall, as I usually do, so there's that. Come early spring, it'll still be cold, but above freezing and often raining, and the rain helps to rinse off the car. When it rains I'll sometimes aim for puddles to help rinse out the wheel wells and undercarriage.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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The north really does require a disposable winter vehicle one is :aintcare: about.
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wap wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:37 pm Also, I did put a coat of wax on in the fall, as I usually do, so there's that. Come early spring, it'll still be cold, but above freezing and often raining, and the rain helps to rinse off the car. When it rains I'll sometimes aim for puddles to help rinse out the wheel wells and undercarriage.
I did a ceramic coating when I bought my Rabbit. I just take it through the automated car wash, which is open year round. When springs rolls around, I'll clean the jambs, interior, and such.
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4zilch wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:39 pm
wap wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:16 am :bruh:

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Every nut and bolt is permanently fused together.
I'm not even sure how the wheels are still turning, to be honest. Cars aren't built for such conditions.
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Huckleberry wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:23 pm
4zilch wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:39 pm

Totaled.

Every nut and bolt is permanently fused together.
I'm not even sure how the wheels are still turning, to be honest. Cars aren't built for such conditions.
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:wap: Where are these mangos?
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max225 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:40 pm The north really does require a disposable winter vehicle one is :aintcare: about.
Then you're also stuck driving a car you don't want to drive for 5mo


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[user not found] wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:46 pm Also, fluid film is your friend for your underbody.
I wanted to do crc anti corrosion but since my :poorvette: was in the shop for 5mo I never got to do the BEATR
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Fluid film is awesome stuff. I'm going to do the JL next fall if it's driven more.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:19 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:40 pm The north really does require a disposable winter vehicle one is :aintcare: about.
Then you're also stuck driving a car you don't want to drive for 5mo


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Yea, :nope:
Hate to pull the :wap: card, but I've been driving cars in Chicago winters for longer than most of you have been alive and they've all done fine for the 9-12 years that I've owned them, and my Mk4 is still being DD'd 12 months/yr and it's going to be 22 years old this year. Admittedly I haven't seen it in a couple of years but it looked fine then. And afaik it's never been impossible to work on underbody stuff or brakes, etc on any of them. They've never been Zilspec underneath, but there's never been any repair that any of them needed that couldn't be done. The only rust-related issue I've had was when my rear sprangs rusted on my Mk6.

I understand that for those who have older cars it makes sense to want to keep the undercarriage decent to facilitate wrenching. Nothing :wrong: with it, for sure.
:wap: Where are these mangos?
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wap wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:45 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:19 pm

Then you're also stuck driving a car you don't want to drive for 5mo


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Yea, :nope:
Hate to pull the :wap: card, but I've been driving cars in Chicago winters for longer than most of you have been alive and they've all done fine for the 9-12 years that I've owned them, and my Mk4 is still being DD'd 12 months/yr and it's going to be 22 years old this year. Admittedly I haven't seen it in a couple of years but it looked fine then. And afaik it's never been impossible to work on underbody stuff or brakes, etc on any of them. They've never been Zilspec underneath, but there's never been any repair that any of them needed that couldn't be done. The only rust-related issue I've had was when my rear sprangs rusted on my Mk6.

I understand that for those who have older cars it makes sense to want to keep the undercarriage decent to facilitate wrenching. Nothing :wrong: with it, for sure.
:wrong: it is totaled. :lol: :yikes:
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