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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:50 pm
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Well, that's the tarted up "Tremor"...............The more stripper versions look atrocious. Plus this forum has, through continual reinforcement, convinced my that all Ford products that are NOT a GT or GT500 are pieces of garbage.
Ford has introduced some interesting products..
Bronco Sport is pretty good..
Bronco is coming... The ranger while boring seems fine as a truck. And yes I am showing a non white contractor longbed 2wd truck because who the fuck gets that in a lifestyle vehicle.
:dat: I think they had a sort of :wtf: decade and are now outgunning GM. Mach-E is allegedly quite good as well and seems like the only electric offering outside of Tesla that wouldn't inspire instant seppuku.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:11 pm
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Ford has introduced some interesting products..
Bronco Sport is pretty good..
Bronco is coming... The ranger while boring seems fine as a truck. And yes I am showing a non white contractor longbed 2wd truck because who the fuck gets that in a lifestyle vehicle.
:dat: I think they had a sort of :wtf: decade and are now outgunning GM. Mach-E is allegedly quite good as well and seems like the only electric offering outside of Tesla that wouldn't inspire instant seppuku.
Yea so far it seems like GM is the one falling behind in the big 3. But who knows...they have been pouring billions into E tech for a decade now it seems... so something is bound to be launched soon.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 4:38 pm
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:dat: I think they had a sort of :wtf: decade and are now outgunning GM. Mach-E is allegedly quite good as well and seems like the only electric offering outside of Tesla that wouldn't inspire instant seppuku.
Yea so far it seems like GM is the one falling behind in the big 3. But who knows...they have been pouring billions into E tech for a decade now it seems... so something is bound to be launched soon.
That is what is so disturbing about it... all of that to come out with the Bolt, essentially a shittier Honda Fit that you can't drive anywhere because it's electric. All of that for 50% more money.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:08 pm
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Yea so far it seems like GM is the one falling behind in the big 3. But who knows...they have been pouring billions into E tech for a decade now it seems... so something is bound to be launched soon.
That is what is so disturbing about it... all of that to come out with the Bolt, essentially a shittier Honda Fit that you can't drive anywhere because it's electric. All of that for 50% more money.
Yea... kind of :disgust: I don't see tesla having any sort of real challengers and it has been a DECADE. No one is even close... :wtf: so perhaps their share price is justified after all.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:24 pm
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That is what is so disturbing about it... all of that to come out with the Bolt, essentially a shittier Honda Fit that you can't drive anywhere because it's electric. All of that for 50% more money.
Yea... kind of :disgust: I don't see tesla having any sort of real challengers and it has been a DECADE. No one is even close... :wtf: so perhaps their share price is justified after all.
The Ford thing seems competitive and offers better build quality IMO. That said, none of these cars are my thing at all, I only pay so much attention.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 5:35 pm
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Yea... kind of :disgust: I don't see tesla having any sort of real challengers and it has been a DECADE. No one is even close... :wtf: so perhaps their share price is justified after all.
The Ford thing seems competitive and offers better build quality IMO. That said, none of these cars are my thing at all, I only pay so much attention.
Sort of yea... Ford got closer but the performance and range is still not comparable.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:41 pm
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Blind brand loyalty is all I can figure. There's zero other reason to buy a Ranger. The powertrain (2.3T and 10-speed) is decent, that's about it.
I think the 2.3/10 speed is fabulous combo. Best in the Biz IMO. If you're anti Toyota because of Pearl Harbor. The Ranger makes a lot of sense. It is a solid 15-20k cheaper than a JT, and unless you want the roof off it'll do everything you want. I don't find it to be more hideous than the Chevy offering..

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My friend really wanted a Ranger, but Ford said plow provisions are not possible. He had to go Colorado.
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First flat in the JT. Nail through one of the tread blocks of the right rear MT. :rage: :fshitup:
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Apex wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:40 pm First flat in the JT. Nail through one of the tread blocks of the right rear MT. :rage: :fshitup:
That was fast :disgust:
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DO y'all have Discount Tire? They will normally repair for free.99.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:44 pm DO y'all have Discount Tire? They will normally repair for free.99.
Negative. But there’s a good shop literally around the corner from me so I’ll be stopping by there in the morning.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:44 pm DO y'all have Discount Tire? They will normally repair for free.99.
Decent place. I love their location frequency but I have had consistent balance issues there, through out multiple locations and vehicles. Their prices are free balance is 5/7
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:22 pm
D Griff wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 6:44 pm DO y'all have Discount Tire? They will normally repair for free.99.
Decent place. I love their location frequency but I have had consistent balance issues there, through out multiple locations and vehicles. Their prices are free balance is 5/7
I don't want free tire repair. I want to pay you to fix my tire AND NOT FUCK UP MY SWEET RAMZ BRO.
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:25 pm
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Decent place. I love their location frequency but I have had consistent balance issues there, through out multiple locations and vehicles. Their prices are free balance is 5/7
I don't want free tire repair. I want to pay you to fix my tire AND NOT FUCK UP MY SWEET RAMZ BRO.
They have been decent as far as not scratching shit... but not as far as not making the steering wheel shake or watching the headrest shake
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Desertbreh wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:25 pm
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Decent place. I love their location frequency but I have had consistent balance issues there, through out multiple locations and vehicles. Their prices are free balance is 5/7
I don't want free tire repair. I want to pay you to fix my tire AND NOT FUCK UP MY SWEET RAMZ BRO.
The ones here are all staffed by early 20s car guys who always ask me if I want to pull my own car on the lift and stuff because it’s a Corvette OMG! Never had an issue.
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max225 wrote: Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:56 pm
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I don't want free tire repair. I want to pay you to fix my tire AND NOT FUCK UP MY SWEET RAMZ BRO.
They have been decent as far as not scratching shit... but not as far as not making the steering wheel shake or watching the headrest shake
It depends on the balance machine used. Most of the cars they do a regular balance even though they have the Hunter RoadForce machine. Next time you go, ask for a road force balance. It tells them exactly where to put the weights because they have a roller that simulates road confound (hence the name road force)
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JT is surprisingly stable at 90+. :notbad:
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Apex wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:31 am JT is surprisingly stable at 90+. :notbad:
Whats the top end limiter?
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max225 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:27 pm
Apex wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:31 am JT is surprisingly stable at 90+. :notbad:
Whats the top end limiter?
Didn’t find it, but IIRC from the window sticker it’s 115?
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Apex wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:48 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:27 pm

Whats the top end limiter?
Didn’t find it, but IIRC from the window sticker it’s 115?
:yikes: push the right pedal all the way to the floor!

I am such a pussy, I haven't taken my taco above 85. :gaydance:
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max225 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:49 pm
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Didn’t find it, but IIRC from the window sticker it’s 115?
:yikes: push the right pedal all the way to the floor!

I am such a pussy, I haven't taken my taco above 85. :gaydance:
I looked down and saw 92 and thought this might not be the best idea and slowed down to 80. :lol:
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The long wheelbase makes the JT remarkably stable at high speeds. Never had mine over 85 :doe: and the wind is deafening in mine.
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Apex wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:48 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:27 pm

Whats the top end limiter?
Didn’t find it, but IIRC from the window sticker it’s 115?
The RAMs are 104mph, and I'd be much happier doing that in a RAM than 115 in a JT :lol:
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:45 pm
Apex wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:48 pm

Didn’t find it, but IIRC from the window sticker it’s 115?
The RAMs are 104mph, and I'd be much happier doing that in a RAM than 115 in a JT :lol:
It's really more stable than you'd expect it to be. Still, I'm not sure it's capable of triple digit speeds even without a limiter.
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I went 110 in a rental JKU sport once on a back road in Upstate NY (RIP Troy).

I was curious what it could do... it got there easily enough but wasn’t something I’d ever choose to do for more than 30 seconds.

I’ve hit about 90 in our Beep Beep passing and it was fine.
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