I'm going to have a really hard time getting into that grille. Ooof
Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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I guess by making the ICE car hideous, it eases the transition to toasters?
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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I heard it doesn’t have the DCT either
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:05 pm DFD. The forum where everybody makes the same choices and then tells anybody trying to join the club that they are the stupidest motherfucker to ever walk the earth.
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I think mine will hold a little value, but to a niche buyer.
F30's are generally much higher mileage and are ragged.
E30's are on the brink of trash it, or needs almost a full restore to make it nice.
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Agree to disagree. I really didn’t like it. It had a shit Ton of dct downsides.
Low speed clunks that made it sound like it was broken. No parking setting.
really odd quirks around town where the clutch packs would get confused and bob your head as if you didn’t know how to drive stick ... dsg did it too but much gentler.
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FTFYtroyguitar wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:34 amIt's not supposed to be fine. It's the ultimate douchebag machine.max225 wrote:
It has 8 auto and that’s fine. That dct was/is shit for a daily
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Complete 180 from my experience.max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:43 amAgree to disagree. I really didn’t like it. It had a shit Ton of dct downsides.
Low speed clunks that made it sound like it was broken. No parking setting.
really odd quirks around town where the clutch packs would get confused and bob your head as if you didn’t know how to drive stick ... dsg did it too but much gentler.
- max225
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Yea I mean ... I’m in my 5th “bmw” ... I do have to say that the m3 was Def my favorite but it didn’t come without downsides.
I trust the mini a lot more and after all that’s the one I “bought” vs rented. 90% of the fun at 40% of the price and operating cost and 0% douchebag factor
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The 3 series as whole looks way better and aggressive than the new 4 series, and that carries over to the M models.
- max225
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Looks same to me... minus the doors. I prefer the 4 door as it is far more functional, weighs less, is shorter, cheaper and performs the same
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Trust as in anticipate more reliability?max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:48 amYea I mean ... I’m in my 5th “bmw” ... I do have to say that the m3 was Def my favorite but it didn’t come without downsides.
I trust the mini a lot more and after all that’s the one I “bought” vs rented. 90% of the fun at 40% of the price and operating cost and 0% douchebag factor
Also, the stigmas never bothered me, but when I got the 328i and seeing the DIY YouTube videos, and seeing the forum posts, I realize I'm about 10 years too old for the car's average "second owner"
It's hard to find technical information, but I can find 500 YouTube videos of some shit in a flat brim hat "vloging" from the shop while someone installed their brake pads.
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M cars are terribly unreliable and incredibly expensive when it comes to "consumables". The 30k mile service for the M3 was 3k... + 2k in tires... that's 5k in maintenance every 30k miles... yes it is possible to DIY, but everything on the M motors is way more expensive. Plugs/filters etc are all multiples of what a regular one costs.Melon wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:53 amTrust as in anticipate more reliability?max225 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:48 am
Yea I mean ... I’m in my 5th “bmw” ... I do have to say that the m3 was Def my favorite but it didn’t come without downsides.
I trust the mini a lot more and after all that’s the one I “bought” vs rented. 90% of the fun at 40% of the price and operating cost and 0% douchebag factor
Also, the stigmas never bothered me, but when I got the 328i and seeing the DIY YouTube videos, and seeing the forum posts, I realize I'm about 10 years too old for the car's average "second owner"
It's hard to find technical information, but I can find 500 YouTube videos of some shit in a flat brim hat "vloging" from the shop while someone installed their brake pads.
Hell the battery was $1800! $1800!!!!!
https://www.bmwpartsdeal.com/parts-list ... ttery.html
Ima let that sink in...
parts are hard to come by and not really interchangeable which creates a bit of a distrust to the vehicle. The 328 in comparison is super easy because they made a gazillion of those engines and everything is documented and has a solid aftermarket.
I never even went to the bmw forums, they were completely useless. Just rolex bragging... etc.
3 series curve is a steep downward drop over the first 15 years, bottoming out at $3-5K for decent examples, then slowly climbing back up to original MSRP for clean/more unique models.
Maybe I'm but I think these are both pretty good looking cars, I've always loved the look of the 3 series. I could live without the grill, but otherwise it's rather nice to me.
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Yep. It is interesting that E36s were all ragged to shit which is how I got mine for $1900 and then sold for $4100 after fixing it up... nowadays a clean E36s is really starting to climb quick.
I bought my E46s knowing that but I couldn't wait 10 years because the car was just too unreliable to keep for that long. Never again. You also can't drive them... you have to keep miles well under 80k in order to preserve the value...
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1997-bmw-m3-168/
Man some of these are still affordable.