Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!

[max225]

Correct. Fake money that vests at about 25% per year...

I haven't worked at a single company for more than 5 years. Partially because there's no reward for loyalty (this fixes that), but also because every company I work for I end up hating due to terrible culture and (mis)management.

I bet tech is different. Curious to find out, but the risk is just way too high for me. I'd rather stay here miserable in my job than try to establish myself somewhere new spending 5 years in a crowded apt or condo complex not being able to enjoy the weather because there's traffic everywhere and escaping is nearly impossible on the regular.

I don't know that it is this doom and gloom ... a lot of people live happy lives here. Not saying you should do it because you have a good thing in Detroit. But a lot of people like to throw shade out this way, which is odd to me.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I haven't worked at a single company for more than 5 years. Partially because there's no reward for loyalty (this fixes that), but also because every company I work for I end up hating due to terrible culture and (mis)management.

I bet tech is different. Curious to find out, but the risk is just way too high for me. I'd rather stay here miserable in my job than try to establish myself somewhere new spending 5 years in a crowded apt or condo complex not being able to enjoy the weather because there's traffic everywhere and escaping is nearly impossible on the regular.

I don't know that it is this doom and gloom ... a lot of people live happy lives here. Not saying you should do it because you have a good thing in Detroit. But a lot of people like to throw shade out this way, which is odd to me.

I highly value space and time. Both aren't really a thing out that way unless mega rich. Tons of people are clearly happy with it, just not for me at all. I'd rather move to Fairbanks than San Francisco.

I will say, if I could land a good paying gig somehow in central coast ~Santa Barbara area, I'd probably make that happen. I love that area.

[D Griff]

I haven't worked at a single company for more than 5 years. Partially because there's no reward for loyalty (this fixes that), but also because every company I work for I end up hating due to terrible culture and (mis)management.

I bet tech is different. Curious to find out, but the risk is just way too high for me. I'd rather stay here miserable in my job than try to establish myself somewhere new spending 5 years in a crowded apt or condo complex not being able to enjoy the weather because there's traffic everywhere and escaping is nearly impossible on the regular.

I don't know that it is this doom and gloom ... a lot of people live happy lives here. Not saying you should do it because you have a good thing in Detroit. But a lot of people like to throw shade out this way, which is odd to me.

I think it is very nice and there are pros/cons like anything. I'd say the Bay Area or anywhere on the coast of CA has more pros but the major con, cost, is challenging. With plenty of money most of the other issues like traffic don't really matter. If you have enough cash, you can just live close to work and stuff to mitigate it.

[max225]

I don't know that it is this doom and gloom ... a lot of people live happy lives here. Not saying you should do it because you have a good thing in Detroit. But a lot of people like to throw shade out this way, which is odd to me.

I think it is very nice and there are pros/cons like anything. I'd say the Bay Area or anywhere on the coast of CA has more pros but the major con, cost, is challenging. With plenty of money most of the other issues like traffic don't really matter. If you have enough cash, you can just live close to work and stuff to mitigate it.

I haven’t driven to work in 3 months ... neither has the girl. There is a “new normal” here that tends to be ahead of anywhere else in the country. Times are changin’

[D Griff]

I think it is very nice and there are pros/cons like anything. I'd say the Bay Area or anywhere on the coast of CA has more pros but the major con, cost, is challenging. With plenty of money most of the other issues like traffic don't really matter. If you have enough cash, you can just live close to work and stuff to mitigate it.

I haven’t driven to work in 3 months ... neither has the girl. There is a “new normal” here that tends to be ahead of anywhere else in the country. Times are changin’

That is the same everywhere. I think you're right... I feel if anything, that is what could upset housing prices. Now that many aren't tied to a physical office, there is an argument to be made for working remotely and living somewhere cool that previously didn't offer much in the way of employment, like small beach towns, mountain towns and the like. I have tried to convince that we should move to Carolina Beach.

[max225]

I haven’t driven to work in 3 months ... neither has the girl. There is a “new normal” here that tends to be ahead of anywhere else in the country. Times are changin’

That is the same everywhere. I think you're right... I feel if anything, that is what could upset housing prices. Now that many aren't tied to a physical office, there is an argument to be made for working remotely and living somewhere cool that previously didn't offer much in the way of employment, like small beach towns, mountain towns and the like. I have tried to convince that we should move to Carolina Beach.

Yep... it’s going to create a bit of mobility. Physical office presence is still necessary occasionally though. And many companies states that reloc would come with pay cuts... should be interesting to see how it all plays out

[Apex]

I think it is very nice and there are pros/cons like anything. I'd say the Bay Area or anywhere on the coast of CA has more pros but the major con, cost, is challenging. With plenty of money most of the other issues like traffic don't really matter. If you have enough cash, you can just live close to work and stuff to mitigate it.

I haven’t driven to work in 3 months ... neither has the girl. There is a “new normal” here that tends to be ahead of anywhere else in the country. Times are changin’

Tell that to my exec team. “We can’t wait to all be back together again.” “Looking forward to getting back to normal.”

[max225]

I haven’t driven to work in 3 months ... neither has the girl. There is a “new normal” here that tends to be ahead of anywhere else in the country. Times are changin’

Tell that to my exec team. “We can’t wait to all be back together again.” “Looking forward to getting back to normal.”

We’re not asked to return yet... most of my company has adopted to wfh... but we were a lot more used to it than the average company. As I mentioned before my boss lives in Spain, and one of my main business partners is in Sweden. It has its ups and downs

[troyguitar]

That is the same everywhere. I think you're right... I feel if anything, that is what could upset housing prices. Now that many aren't tied to a physical office, there is an argument to be made for working remotely and living somewhere cool that previously didn't offer much in the way of employment, like small beach towns, mountain towns and the like. I have tried to convince that we should move to Carolina Beach.

Yep... it’s going to create a bit of mobility. Physical office presence is still necessary occasionally though. And many companies states that reloc would come with pay cuts... should be interesting to see how it all plays out

The pay cuts already happened. Next we get to put everyone back in their cubes without giving them their paychecks back.

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[max225]

Yep... it’s going to create a bit of mobility. Physical office presence is still necessary occasionally though. And many companies states that reloc would come with pay cuts... should be interesting to see how it all plays out

The pay cuts already happened. Next we get to put everyone back in their cubes without giving them their paychecks back.

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No cubes here. #openoffice

[D Griff]

Tell that to my exec team. “We can’t wait to all be back together again.” “Looking forward to getting back to normal.”

We’re not asked to return yet... most of my company has adopted to wfh... but we were a lot more used to it than the average company. As I mentioned before my boss lives in Spain, and one of my main business partners is in Sweden. It has its ups and downs

Our offices were opened on 6/1 but on an optional basis. In person meetings are prohibited and a mask must be worn whenever leaving your desk. Given all that I don't see the point and don't plan to return. My boss lives in the Bay Area so he's pretty NFG about where we're working if we get our shit done.

[D Griff]

Yep... it’s going to create a bit of mobility. Physical office presence is still necessary occasionally though. And many companies states that reloc would come with pay cuts... should be interesting to see how it all plays out

The pay cuts already happened. Next we get to put everyone back in their cubes without giving them their paychecks back.

miltonredstapler.gif

They already restored pay cuts here but of course since I'm in sales and I have to grow the business over the same month last year to make commission, I'm still making way less.

[MexicanYarisTK]

I haven’t driven to work in 3 months ... neither has the girl. There is a “new normal” here that tends to be ahead of anywhere else in the country. Times are changin’

That is the same everywhere. I think you're right... I feel if anything, that is what could upset housing prices. Now that many aren't tied to a physical office, there is an argument to be made for working remotely and living somewhere cool that previously didn't offer much in the way of employment, like small beach towns, mountain towns and the like. I have tried to convince that we should move to Carolina Beach.

Honestly, if you occasionally have to go to the office, perhaps 2 times a week. A night at the airbnb probably wouldn't hurt. Drive back to the beach and blast Luke Bryan on the way back.

[wap]

I thought you liked the C ?

[MexicanYarisTK]

I thought you liked the C ?

Aside from being a piece of shit fraud sure. Being what it is it has a lot of issues.

Normally I'm anti-hybrid, but when I had the rental corolla hybrid with the shitVT (one of the reasons why I hated it), it's pretty 5/7 in 0-30 sprints with the electric torque. I honestly kind of liked it and probably would see myself as a daily if I live deep into the city. Maybe a test drive the new corolla hybrid wouldn't hurt as a replacement and I think the hatch has that too. The sport mode certainly firms up the steering where it's not feather light, but easy to turn of course.

[Johnny_P]

Aside from being a piece of shit fraud sure. Being what it is it has a lot of issues.

Normally I'm anti-hybrid, but when I had the rental corolla hybrid with the shitVT (one of the reasons why I hated it), it's pretty 5/7 in 0-30 sprints with the electric torque. I honestly kind of liked it and probably would see myself as a daily if I live deep into the city. Maybe a test drive the new corolla hybrid wouldn't hurt as a replacement and I think the hatch has that too. The sport mode certainly firms up the steering where it's not feather light, but easy to turn of course.

Bro in law just bought one. He said it gets 50 something MPG and drives like a normal car. He had a Prius before and didn’t like the spaceship drive experience.

[MexicanYarisTK]

Normally I'm anti-hybrid, but when I had the rental corolla hybrid with the shitVT (one of the reasons why I hated it), it's pretty 5/7 in 0-30 sprints with the electric torque. I honestly kind of liked it and probably would see myself as a daily if I live deep into the city. Maybe a test drive the new corolla hybrid wouldn't hurt as a replacement and I think the hatch has that too. The sport mode certainly firms up the steering where it's not feather light, but easy to turn of course.

Bro in law just bought one. He said it gets 50 something MPG and drives like a normal car. He had a Prius before and didn’t like the spaceship drive experience.

interesting, and yes it really does feels like a regular car but does not feel like your gutless corolla at lower speeds. Highway passing on the other hand....

[goIftdibrad]

Aside from being a piece of shit fraud sure. Being what it is it has a lot of issues.

Normally I'm anti-hybrid, but when I had the rental corolla hybrid with the shitVT (one of the reasons why I hated it), it's pretty 5/7 in 0-30 sprints with the electric torque. I honestly kind of liked it and probably would see myself as a daily if I live deep into the city. Maybe a test drive the new corolla hybrid wouldn't hurt as a replacement and I think the hatch has that too. The sport mode certainly firms up the steering where it's not feather light, but easy to turn of course.

I'm listening...50mpg Corolla.

[CaleDeRoo]

Normally I'm anti-hybrid, but when I had the rental corolla hybrid with the shitVT (one of the reasons why I hated it), it's pretty 5/7 in 0-30 sprints with the electric torque. I honestly kind of liked it and probably would see myself as a daily if I live deep into the city. Maybe a test drive the new corolla hybrid wouldn't hurt as a replacement and I think the hatch has that too. The sport mode certainly firms up the steering where it's not feather light, but easy to turn of course.

I'm listening...50mpg Corolla.

[goIftdibrad]

I'm listening...50mpg Corolla.

does it come in hatchback


yes. yes it does. only 37 mpg doe. eh.

[CaleDeRoo]

No hybrid hatch, but the job hybrid hatch and sedan look so much better

[Johnny_P]

does it come in hatchback


yes. yes it does. only 37 mpg doe. eh.

Hyundai ioniq. Supposedly drives like a normal car. 6 speed auto. Hatch like the prius. Normal interior.

I like the hybrid corolla though. I think it looks good. Only real knock is it’s slow. I’d gladly trade 5 MPG for a bit more balls.

[goIftdibrad]

does it come in hatchback


yes. yes it does. only 37 mpg doe. eh.

Hyundai ioniq. Supposedly drives like a normal car. 6 speed auto. Hatch like the prius. Normal interior.

I like the hybrid corolla though. I think it looks good. Only real knock is it’s slow. I’d gladly trade 5 MPG for a bit more balls.

I either want a double clutch or a manual

[troyguitar]

Hyundai ioniq. Supposedly drives like a normal car. 6 speed auto. Hatch like the prius. Normal interior.

I like the hybrid corolla though. I think it looks good. Only real knock is it’s slow. I’d gladly trade 5 MPG for a bit more balls.

I either want a double clutch or a manual

Ioniq has a DCT.

[Johnny_P]

I either want a double clutch or a manual

Ioniq has a DCT.

Yeah I think it actually is a 6-DCT