Northern MI Cucklyfe: Floating Garage Edition

[max225]

What was it?

Fj cruiser that was nice and clean...

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I'd rather just buy a brand new JL for $5k more.

[Desertbreh]

I'd rather just buy a brand new JL for $5k more.

Max is obsessed with overpaying for an FJ. It's all part of the heart of darkness wrestling with his internal beancounter. We're all good and bad bro. Soup.

[D Griff]

IMO

I remember when Toyota discontinued these things...they were still selling, though not in huge volume. Now, that exact same 15 year old truck would be printing them money.

Yep but the reason for that is quite clear ... 0 competition. You gotta go 4 runner to get close to that .. and that’s either 43 or 50k for the full turd bro ... or a taco for 37 hence me cross shopping, yet I haven’t driven a 3.5 powered one, the 4.0 was great.

Once you dip under 30k used the market is total shit, high mile jks 100k+ mile trucks ... just disgusting.

Curious what you think... I find it to be a really uncomfortable tall guy car, the seating position is just heinous from what I recall. I have two pretty tall friends who own them though so

I would much rather a lower spec than a Tacoma all day long, but the 4.0/6-speed certainly was a decent combo in the 'yotas.

[Johnny_P]

Chris how have the JT noise levels been compared to like the Cruze and all?

Which engine do you prefer? IIRC the wife has the turbo and you have the natty sixer?

[D Griff]

Curious what you think... I find it to be a really uncomfortable tall guy car, the seating position is just heinous from what I recall. I have two pretty tall friends who own them though so

I would much rather a lower spec than a Tacoma all day long, but the 4.0/6-speed certainly was a decent combo in the 'yotas.

I reaaaaaaallly wanted to like the Tacoma. But I found the seating position miserable for me in all but the 2020s with the adjustable seat height feature. The 4Runner fit me so much better.

Also, the 4Runner has a yuge backseat that will house a carrier handily.

I’ve never driven a new 4Runner but found it immensely more comfy as a passenger both front seat and back.

[D Griff]

Curious what you think... I find it to be a really uncomfortable tall guy car, the seating position is just heinous from what I recall. I have two pretty tall friends who own them though so

I would much rather a lower spec than a Tacoma all day long, but the 4.0/6-speed certainly was a decent combo in the 'yotas.

I reaaaaaaallly wanted to like the Tacoma. But I found the seating position miserable for me in all but the 2020s with the adjustable seat height feature. The 4Runner fit me so much better.

Also, the 4Runner has a yuge backseat that will house a carrier handily.

I’ve never driven a new 4Runner but found it immensely more comfy as a passenger both front seat and back.

[max225]

Yep but the reason for that is quite clear ... 0 competition. You gotta go 4 runner to get close to that .. and that’s either 43 or 50k for the full turd bro ... or a taco for 37 hence me cross shopping, yet I haven’t driven a 3.5 powered one, the 4.0 was great.

Once you dip under 30k used the market is total shit, high mile jks 100k+ mile trucks ... just disgusting.

Curious what you think... I find it to be a really uncomfortable tall guy car, the seating position is just heinous from what I recall. I have two pretty tall friends who own them though so

I would much rather a lower spec than a Tacoma all day long, but the 4.0/6-speed certainly was a decent combo in the 'yotas.

I will let you know once I get around to it, I am pretty early in my search for it and my main two issues are the 3.5 and the truk bed, I have no use for either. But I may perhaps once get our 7 figure fixer and :Pinterest: kicks in

[D Griff]

Curious what you think... I find it to be a really uncomfortable tall guy car, the seating position is just heinous from what I recall. I have two pretty tall friends who own them though so

I would much rather a lower spec than a Tacoma all day long, but the 4.0/6-speed certainly was a decent combo in the 'yotas.

I will let you know once I get around to it, I am pretty early in my search for it and my main two issues are the 3.5 and the truk bed, I have no use for either. But I may perhaps once get our 7 figure fixer and :Pinterest: kicks in

I bought a storm door yesterday with a sedan, done pavers, rock, mulch, and even my 2’x4’x7’ shed thing with the

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I will let you know once I get around to it, I am pretty early in my search for it and my main two issues are the 3.5 and the truk bed, I have no use for either. But I may perhaps once get our 7 figure fixer and :Pinterest: kicks in

I bought a storm door yesterday with a sedan, done pavers, rock, mulch, and even my 2’x4’x7’ shed thing with the

Sure it can be done...but the truck bed is far more convenient.

[D Griff]

I bought a storm door yesterday with a sedan, done pavers, rock, mulch, and even my 2’x4’x7’ shed thing with the

Sure it can be done...but the truck bed is far more convenient.

I wanted you to know that this place hasn't changed too much.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Sure it can be done...but the truck bed is far more convenient.

I wanted you to know that this place hasn't changed too much.

I never thought for a moment that it did...

[D Griff]

I wanted you to know that this place hasn't changed too much.

I never thought for a moment that it did...

It was just a little bit worse without you here though

Particularly now that I'm revamping my

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I never thought for a moment that it did...

It was just a little bit worse without you here though

Particularly now that I'm revamping my

In4 revamp. I honestly really enjoyed working on mine.

[dubshow]

I'd rather just buy a brand new JL for $5k more.

x1000

[dubshow]

Curious what you think... I find it to be a really uncomfortable tall guy car, the seating position is just heinous from what I recall. I have two pretty tall friends who own them though so

I would much rather a lower spec than a Tacoma all day long, but the 4.0/6-speed certainly was a decent combo in the 'yotas.

I will let you know once I get around to it, I am pretty early in my search for it and my main two issues are the 3.5 and the truk bed, I have no use for either. But I may perhaps once get our 7 figure fixer and :Pinterest: kicks in

seeks out jeep for YEARS.

Buys a mini.

[dubshow]

It was just a little bit worse without you here though

Particularly now that I'm revamping my

In4 revamp. I honestly really enjoyed working on mine.

[max225]

I will let you know once I get around to it, I am pretty early in my search for it and my main two issues are the 3.5 and the truk bed, I have no use for either. But I may perhaps once get our 7 figure fixer and :Pinterest: kicks in

seeks out jeep for YEARS.

Buys a mini.

May be an fj

[ChrisoftheNorth]

seeks out jeep for YEARS.

Buys a mini.

May be an fj

Would be epic IMO.

[dubshow]

May be an fj

Would be epic IMO.

a newer jeep is better in every way.

[D Griff]

Would be epic IMO.

a newer jeep is better in every way.

I would choose the but for what he wants it makes sense. See his thread where he prefers FJ ride quality, power delivery, sans tent/porta potty interior, etc.

[max225]

Would be epic IMO.

a newer jeep is better in every way.

Link to a comparable Jeep for 16k? Cheapest jk is probably low 20s and it doesn’t quite ride as nice as the FJ, and unless the trim is rubi which brings it to 30k, the FJ performs better off road as well.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I would choose the but for what he wants it makes sense. See his thread where he prefers FJ ride quality, power delivery, sans tent/porta potty interior, etc.

The FJ is in a party of one.

wheelbase with solid off-road performance but better driveability and livability and reliability than the

Pretty ideal for what Max is looking for TBH.

[max225]

I would choose the but for what he wants it makes sense. See his thread where he prefers FJ ride quality, power delivery, sans tent/porta potty interior, etc.

The FJ is in a party of one.

wheelbase with solid off-road performance but better driveability and livability and reliability than the

Yea I think the wheelbase is somewhere in between a 2 door and a 4 door. It has a back seat that is usable and mostly id be using it for 2 people.. the FJ trunk is significantly bigger than the JL even in 4 door trim. Which is all what I’m looking for. I can’t handle a 2 door Jeep, the FJ is perfectly sized in that respect.

Ideally I would get a 2010+ but the price moves to 25k+ which seems stupid.. sub 20k keeps it in disposable “toy” territory. And it can’t possibly drop much further than that.

The question is whether I should wait for the bronco, but that thing is still quite a bit away, solid year I’d say, 6 months for the Defender. And both will be at least double what the older fj will run.

What do y’all think

[Apex]

FJ wheelbase is around 105” IIRC, basically ideal and between 2 and 4 door Jeeps. Minus the LJ which is also around that 105” mark.