2020 :plac: life!

[Huckleberry]

and are must-dos in the world of being a car guy.

Hm. I guess I’m not a car guy. We have established that though.

I don’t understand a lot of the hardcore thou shalts of car guy ism. Like...
-Hate all camrys
-Hate all CUVs
-Trucks are the devil
-Manuel all the things
-Love brown diesel manual RWD station wagons

I can have fun in damn near everything I drive. I can appreciate aspects of almost every vehicle. I just enjoy operating the machine. Except the last gen Jeep Compass that thing was a fucking turd.

Those are Jalopnik's commandments, and they don't speak for everyone.

[Johnny_P]

I'd actually go so far as to argue the Camry was (is?) one of the best cars ever made. No, fun is not the objective. Super reliable, durable, easy to use, and very well made is the objective. Which it has excelled at and literally set the bar for the entire industry to catch up to.

As an engineer myself, I find that aspect completely fascinating and respect it.

[goIftdibrad]

I'd actually go so far as to argue the Camry was (is?) one of the best cars ever made. No, fun is not the objective. Super reliable, durable, easy to use, and very well made is the objective. Which it has excelled at and literally set the bar for the entire industry to catch up to.

As an engineer myself, I find that aspect completely fascinating and respect it.

[max225]

I'd actually go so far as to argue the Camry was (is?) one of the best cars ever made. No, fun is not the objective. Super reliable, durable, easy to use, and very well made is the objective. Which it has excelled at and literally set the bar for the entire industry to catch up to.

As an engineer myself, I find that aspect completely fascinating and respect it.

Depends on how you measure “best”

[wap]

I'd actually go so far as to argue the Camry was (is?) one of the best cars ever made. No, fun is not the objective. Super reliable, durable, easy to use, and very well made is the objective. Which it has excelled at and literally set the bar for the entire industry to catch up to.

As an engineer myself, I find that aspect completely fascinating and respect it.

ol:

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[wap]

I'd actually go so far as to argue the Camry was (is?) one of the best cars ever made. No, fun is not the objective. Super reliable, durable, easy to use, and very well made is the objective. Which it has excelled at and literally set the bar for the entire industry to catch up to.

As an engineer myself, I find that aspect completely fascinating and respect it.

You can say pretty much all that about the Accord plus it's also decent to drive and won't make you weep in despair every time you get behind the wheel.

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[MexicanYarisTK]

Last active:Thu Jan 09, 2020 11:43 am Detroit
THERE IS HOPE The man from Detroit Creeped around shortly after NY

Last active:Mon Mar 25, 2019 1:06 pm Dave looks to be lost

RIP:
Dave
6 Speeder
Sanchez

Also, KYJellyGuy has been MIA this year, too.

I miss six speeder and sanchez, he also lives about 30 mins from me


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[Johnny_P]

[Johnny_P]

I'd actually go so far as to argue the Camry was (is?) one of the best cars ever made. No, fun is not the objective. Super reliable, durable, easy to use, and very well made is the objective. Which it has excelled at and literally set the bar for the entire industry to catch up to.

As an engineer myself, I find that aspect completely fascinating and respect it.

You can say pretty much all that about the Accord plus it's also decent to drive and won't make you weep in despair every time you get behind the wheel.

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The Accord is a decent car. Earlier Hondas weren't on the same level as the Camry though, especially anything with an automatic, which is what 90% of the country purchased. I don't really care for Accords. I don't think they're sporty, and they ride pretty poorly. So IMO they solve nothing.

[stripethree]

and are must-dos in the world of being a car guy.

Have NA. Agree there. Rented a Wrangler Unlimited for several days over Xmas 2018. All the I ever needed.

[coogles]

The Accord is a decent car. Earlier Hondas weren't on the same level as the Camry though, especially anything with an automatic, which is what 90% of the country purchased. I don't really care for Accords. I don't think they're sporty, and they ride pretty poorly. So IMO they solve nothing.

Which generations of each have you driven? Because that's the total opposite of my experience.

I've only owned one of those two, it was a pretty base 1996, but it rode beautifully, handled way better than it had any right to on 185/65/15 tires, and was genuinely a joy to own even as it approached 200k miles. Still the best car I've ever owned. Honestly quite a bit nicer than the 90s Camrys I've been in.

The last Camry I drove was a 2011 or 2012, and it was pretty terrible. The engine was incredibly coarse and the steering was pure videogame. It did ride pretty well, at least, but it wasn't an enjoyable driving experience at all.

[D Griff]

I think Accords and Camrys are both pretty good

[4zilch]

and are must-dos in the world of being a car guy.

Have NA. Agree there. Rented a Wrangler Unlimited for several days over Xmas 2018. All the I ever needed.

Have had several s. I don’t feel like I’m missing anything by not having a and I’ve done off-roading in/on superior vehicles.

[troyguitar]

Would dirtbike 5/7 times over for sure. No doors, roof, or windshield on those either!

[4zilch]

Would dirtbike 5/7 times over for sure. No doors, roof, or windshield on those either!

I'd really love to try a Grom.

Dat gateway drug.

[troyguitar]

I was thinking offroad, but the downside is that I have no idea where you can legally and safely ride - and I definitely wouldn't want to go alone.

[wap]

Dat gateway drug.

I feel like chasing down on the dragon would be an endless source of for me.

I'm not that bad a driver.

[troyguitar]

I was thinking offroad, but the downside is that I have no idea where you can legally and safely ride - and I definitely wouldn't want to go alone.

Adventure bike?

Just a regular little dirtbike or a very small "ADV" thing, like the 300 versys at the biggest. I hated being on public roads with cars and cops, but liked riding the bike. Even an 80cc 2-smoke could be cool.

[troyguitar]

Sometimes it seems like there are more cops than civilian vehicles. I'm still after the summer version of riding snowmobile trails. No cars, no sweet jumps or mud bogs, just fairly smooth fun paths.

[goIftdibrad]

Sometimes it seems like there are more cops than civilian vehicles. I'm still after the summer version of riding snowmobile trails. No cars, no sweet jumps or mud bogs, just fairly smooth fun paths.

crf250l or 300. get off the main roads and live.

honestly on the motorcycle, anywhere other than the dragon or very other few roads like it, you should be looking so far ahead that you can see police before they can get a bead on you. if you get a ticket for speeding on a curvy road, you aren't looking far enough ahead

[troyguitar]

crf250l or 300. get off the main roads and live.

honestly on the motorcycle, anywhere other than the dragon or very other few roads like it, you should be looking so far ahead that you can see police before they can get a bead on you. if you get a ticket for speeding on a curvy road, you aren't looking far enough ahead

Or it's the dragon, where you can't see very far ahead.

...or other places with hills and trees. The hills are the reason that most curvy roads exist. You generally can't look ahead very far unless you are on a straight, FLAT, boring road at which point the only fun speed is

[Huckleberry]

I'd actually go so far as to argue the Camry was (is?) one of the best cars ever made. No, fun is not the objective. Super reliable, durable, easy to use, and very well made is the objective. Which it has excelled at and literally set the bar for the entire industry to catch up to.

As an engineer myself, I find that aspect completely fascinating and respect it.

The 3.0L Camry disagrees with your reliability sentiment.

[Johnny_P]

Sometimes it seems like there are more cops than civilian vehicles. I'm still after the summer version of riding snowmobile trails. No cars, no sweet jumps or mud bogs, just fairly smooth fun paths.

crf250l or 300. get off the main roads and live.

honestly on the motorcycle, anywhere other than the dragon or very other few roads like it, you should be looking so far ahead that you can see police before they can get a bead on you. if you get a ticket for speeding on a curvy road, you aren't looking far enough ahead

I still really want a WR250R or one of the Juan’s you mentioned

[4zilch]

Dat gateway drug.

I feel like chasing down on the dragon would be an endless source of for me.

Until Harley derp gives ya the point by but you can complete the pass until you get to the corn because 9hp.

Regardless, chasing people down is a good time. I can’t resist a good egg chase in my American shirt box.

[4zilch]

Sometimes it seems like there are more cops than civilian vehicles. I'm still after the summer version of riding snowmobile trails. No cars, no sweet jumps or mud bogs, just fairly smooth fun paths.

Sounds like Maryville/Blount County nothing better to do than to write tickets.