Car Talk 5: The Juice is Loose!

[D Griff]

Diesel costs more than premium. It’s damn near a full dollar more than regular. For a car that’s slower than the base engine. It makes no sense at all.

It’s a completely different power delivery. Just like my tdi was “slower” than a gti. But it wasn’t in daily driving. Because peak power hit at 2400 rpm...
It’s a different type of drive, ironically one you would likely enjoy very much.

I owned a GTI for 40k miles and have logged 50ish in two TDIs and... yeah, I disagree with you fully. GTI is AND feels way faster. TDI is a bit of a turd.

[CaleDeRoo]

You guys I was asking about the base models, not the supermodel versions none of us could pull.

[max225]

It’s a completely different power delivery. Just like my tdi was “slower” than a gti. But it wasn’t in daily driving. Because peak power hit at 2400 rpm...
It’s a different type of drive, ironically one you would likely enjoy very much.

I owned a GTI for 40k miles and have logged 50ish in two TDIs and... yeah, I disagree with you fully. GTI is AND feels way faster. TDI is a bit of a turd.

You drove 2 door tdis ? Or the giant wagon. We can agree to disagree.

[Johnny_P]

Shit. I need a V8 in my life.

I'd fuck a Hellcat, marry a GT350 non R, kill Camaro... same as Max

I guess the options are Charger or JGC/Tahoe if a V8 is to happen.

Man, I did very much enjoy that Camaro though. I could drive that daily. But something like that really needs a driveway at least, parallel parking it would be horrific. No space for a kid seat either, so meh.

I probably should have bought one years ago. I mean I ended up doing the winter/summer tire dance anyway. Oh, and I haven't switched out to my winters yet still, despite a snow storm this weekend.

[D Griff]

I owned a GTI for 40k miles and have logged 50ish in two TDIs and... yeah, I disagree with you fully. GTI is AND feels way faster. TDI is a bit of a turd.

You drove 2 door tdis ? Or the giant wagon. We can agree to disagree.

That's fair... a lot of it depends on how you drive, I wind out my cars frequently. I have driven both., they aren't bad but not quick by any means. I guess most never go above 3K RPMs so it makes more sense.

[Johnny_P]

I owned a GTI for 40k miles and have logged 50ish in two TDIs and... yeah, I disagree with you fully. GTI is AND feels way faster. TDI is a bit of a turd.

You drove 2 door tdis ? Or the giant wagon. We can agree to disagree.

0-30 TDIs felt fine. Close to a GTI I guess. After that, naw.

[D Griff]

I'd fuck a Hellcat, marry a GT350 non R, kill Camaro... same as Max

I guess the options are Charger or JGC/Tahoe if a V8 is to happen.

Man, I did very much enjoy that Camaro though. I could drive that daily. But something like that really needs a driveway at least, parallel parking it would be horrific. No space for a kid seat either, so meh.

I probably should have bought one years ago. I mean I ended up doing the winter/summer tire dance anyway. Oh, and I haven't switched out to my winters yet still, despite a snow storm this weekend.

Charger would be epic other than the length for your parking stich. I'm told the AWD variants still feel like a RWD car and can do donuts, which is pretty Also the fuel efficiency of R/Ts is

[max225]

You drove 2 door tdis ? Or the giant wagon. We can agree to disagree.

That's fair... a lot of it depends on how you drive, I wind out my cars frequently. I have driven both., they aren't bad but not quick by any means. I guess most never go above 3K RPMs so it makes more sense.

There is no comparison past 3500rpm def not even close. But that’s sort of my point every day if you’re derping around ... up until that rpm range the tdi feels quicker.

[D Griff]

I go above 5K RPMs every time I drive I understand most don't , so I see your point.

[Gberg2119]

I'd fuck a Hellcat, marry a GT350 non R, kill Camaro... same as Max

I guess the options are Charger or JGC/Tahoe if a V8 is to happen.

Man, I did very much enjoy that Camaro though. I could drive that daily. But something like that really needs a driveway at least, parallel parking it would be horrific. No space for a kid seat either, so meh.

I probably should have bought one years ago. I mean I ended up doing the winter/summer tire dance anyway. Oh, and I haven't switched out to my winters yet still, despite a snow storm this weekend.

Think of the children!

[CaleDeRoo]

I guess the options are Charger or JGC/Tahoe if a V8 is to happen.

Man, I did very much enjoy that Camaro though. I could drive that daily. But something like that really needs a driveway at least, parallel parking it would be horrific. No space for a kid seat either, so meh.

I probably should have bought one years ago. I mean I ended up doing the winter/summer tire dance anyway. Oh, and I haven't switched out to my winters yet still, despite a snow storm this weekend.

Charger would be epic other than the length for your parking stich. I'm told the AWD variants still feel like a RWD car and can do donuts, which is pretty Also the fuel efficiency of R/Ts is

IIRC they were rwd until slip was detected, but there's a reason they don't make AWD/hemi cars anymore. The AWD system was not up to the task. At least that's what the salesman told my dad when he went to look at a hemi AWD 300.

[Johnny_P]

I guess the options are Charger or JGC/Tahoe if a V8 is to happen.

Man, I did very much enjoy that Camaro though. I could drive that daily. But something like that really needs a driveway at least, parallel parking it would be horrific. No space for a kid seat either, so meh.

I probably should have bought one years ago. I mean I ended up doing the winter/summer tire dance anyway. Oh, and I haven't switched out to my winters yet still, despite a snow storm this weekend.

Think of the children!

I dunno man. The summers are better in 20F temps dry pavement than the winters could ever hope to be. I hardly drive anyway, I can stay home if its shit weather. Snow in Philly melts in a day, roads are usually dry within 12 hours of a storm.

I still want AWD though

[Johnny_P]

Charger would be epic other than the length for your parking stich. I'm told the AWD variants still feel like a RWD car and can do donuts, which is pretty Also the fuel efficiency of R/Ts is

IIRC they were rwd until slip was detected, but there's a reason they don't make AWD/hemi cars anymore. The AWD system was not up to the task. At least that's what the salesman told my dad when he went to look at a hemi AWD 300.

Yeah the V8's are rear drive only anymore. You want an AWD V8 sledgehammer car you need to go German.

[Gberg2119]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S-rsysqa24

[Johnny_P]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S-rsysqa24

Shame the touch screen kind of blows. They’ll fix that in a year or two. But annoying it’s not correct out the gate.

It would be a perfect car for me really.

[Huckleberry]

Charger would be epic other than the length for your parking stich. I'm told the AWD variants still feel like a RWD car and can do donuts, which is pretty Also the fuel efficiency of R/Ts is

IIRC they were rwd until slip was detected, but there's a reason they don't make AWD/hemi cars anymore. The AWD system was not up to the task. At least that's what the salesman told my dad when he went to look at a hemi AWD 300.

I think a lack of sales killed the option since the Durango comes in AWD in both R/T and SRT trim.

[Melon]

Charger comes in AWD.

[Melon]

IIRC they were rwd until slip was detected, but there's a reason they don't make AWD/hemi cars anymore. The AWD system was not up to the task. At least that's what the salesman told my dad when he went to look at a hemi AWD 300.

Nevermind. I'm

[MrH42]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S-rsysqa24

I'm not a Savage Geese fan, but given I just bought one of these, I guess I'll watch.

[Gberg2119]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S-rsysqa24

I'm not a Savage Geese fan, but given I just bought one of these, I guess I'll watch.

He's okay although he complains way too much about a lot of stuff. Not every car can be his Ariel atom.

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[MrH42]

I'm not a Savage Geese fan, but given I just bought one of these, I guess I'll watch.

He's okay although he complains way too much about a lot of stuff. Not every car can be his Ariel atom.

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He takes himself way too seriously. He acts like he's producing a life changing movie with every review, and that each car is deeply touching his soul. It's all too much.

[MrH42]

So I finished the Savage Geese video. A few points:

- Yeah, seat heater button design is awful. Everyone hates it.
- Never had to wait 30 seconds to use the screen on start up? Not sure why he was struggling here.
- Apparently there's a software update coming in Feburary with tons of minor changes, so hopefully they resolve a couple of the issues.
- Start/stop is as bad as he says. I might make a defeat switch and start selling them
- Ride, NVH, and interior is best in class by a mile. Suspension tuning is perfect. Rides over everything no problem. It rolls a lot, but the dynamics are surprisingly good for how soft the suspension is. This is all due to how rigid the platform is. It feels like a giant luxury rally car.
- Utility is great too. Massive luggage and people space. Lots of really clever design features too.
- CVT is rubber band like, but hey, what do you expect? None of this is a surprise to me.


Overall, great daily vehicle. Would recommend. 8/10.

[CaleDeRoo]

So I finished the Savage Geese video. A few points:

- Yeah, seat heater button design is awful. Everyone hates it.
- Never had to wait 30 seconds to use the screen on start up? Not sure why he was struggling here.
- Apparently there's a software update coming in Feburary with tons of minor changes, so hopefully they resolve a couple of the issues.
- Start/stop is as bad as he says. I might make a defeat switch and start selling them
- Ride, NVH, and interior is best in class by a mile. Suspension tuning is perfect. Rides over everything no problem. It rolls a lot, but the dynamics are surprisingly good for how soft the suspension is. This is all due to how rigid the platform is. It feels like a giant luxury rally car.
- Utility is great too. Massive luggage and people space. Lots of really clever design features too.
- CVT is rubber band like, but hey, what do you expect? None of this is a surprise to me.


Overall, great daily vehicle. Would recommend. 8/10.

In for MrH reviews of car reviews

[MrH42]

So I finished the Savage Geese video. A few points:

- Yeah, seat heater button design is awful. Everyone hates it.
- Never had to wait 30 seconds to use the screen on start up? Not sure why he was struggling here.
- Apparently there's a software update coming in Feburary with tons of minor changes, so hopefully they resolve a couple of the issues.
- Start/stop is as bad as he says. I might make a defeat switch and start selling them
- Ride, NVH, and interior is best in class by a mile. Suspension tuning is perfect. Rides over everything no problem. It rolls a lot, but the dynamics are surprisingly good for how soft the suspension is. This is all due to how rigid the platform is. It feels like a giant luxury rally car.
- Utility is great too. Massive luggage and people space. Lots of really clever design features too.
- CVT is rubber band like, but hey, what do you expect? None of this is a surprise to me.


Overall, great daily vehicle. Would recommend. 8/10.

In for MrH reviews of car reviews

Go test drive an Outback and review how I did.

REVIEW INCEPTION

[CaleDeRoo]

In for MrH reviews of car reviews

Go test drive an Outback and review how I did.

REVIEW INCEPTION

I think Max is the right guy for this job.