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[user not found] wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:48 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:49 pm Question for JP: Marry, fuck, kill?

Camaro
Mustang
Challenger?
This is a good one for the whole :bread:

Marry: Challenger Scat Pack Widebody in F8 Green
Fuck: Mustang GT 2PP
Kill after fucking: Camullet for the terrible :horse: face
that new front end on the Camaro is :disgust: and I they seem to be more rare as I can't recall when's the last time I saw one.
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Marry: Challenger Scatpack with an actual color
Fuck: GT350 with the tremec 6th speed unlike in the GT and ecobust with the Chinese :manuel:
Kill: The new Camaro, previous gen was much better
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:44 pm
4zilch wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:42 pm I am disappointed by the lack of debate in this thread. :popcorn: is getting stale
Soggy?
Moist
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4zilch wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:09 pm
[user not found] wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:44 pm

Soggy?
Moist
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 2:49 pm Question for JP: Marry, fuck, kill?

Camaro
Mustang
Challenger?
I’m going in on this one too.
Marry: Gt350 non R with tech package
Fuck: challenger hellcat or even srt392 widebody only
Kill: camero, does nothing for me
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Shit. I need a V8 in my life.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:53 pm Shit. I need a V8 in my life.
There will always be one at Hertz to rent
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:11 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:53 pm Shit. I need a V8 in my life.
There will always be one at Hertz to rent
Maybe we will get a stang next month
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[user not found] wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:31 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 5:22 pm https://www.yahoo.com/news/mazda-cx-5-d ... 00226.html

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I've got one, too. :dillerman:
You guys still gave that same one? Holy shit.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:26 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:11 pm

There will always be one at Hertz to rent
Maybe we will get a stang next month
Swede had a facelifted GT with performance pack and 10spd a couple years ago as a rental it looked pretty fucking nice.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:31 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:26 pm

Maybe we will get a stang next month
Swede had a facelifted GT with performance pack and 10spd a couple years ago as a rental it looked pretty fucking nice.
All the mustangs they had were 4cyl verts. We only got the USS Mullet because the V6 we jumped into didn’t have any keys inside for some reason so the dude gave us the big dick V8 SS as it was the only one left.

I’d take a Chally RT or SRT if they had one tho.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:27 pm

You guys still gave that same one? Holy shit.
We’ve had maybe two people test drive it. Nobody cares.
Slower than the base model more expensive than the turbo and gas mileage is hardly better than either. Diesel around me is more expensive than 93 so it makes no sense to anyone. I feel bad for Mazda. It’s a nice car but wrong time.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:34 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:31 pm
Swede had a facelifted GT with performance pack and 10spd a couple years ago as a rental it looked pretty fucking nice.
All the mustangs they had were 4cyl verts. We only got the USS Mullet because the V6 we jumped into didn’t have any keys inside for some reason so the dude gave us the big dick V8 SS as it was the only one left.

I’d take a Chally RT or SRT if they had one tho.
Y'all have Hertz Trump circle choice or whatever it's called?
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It’s a bit of a delta 27 mpg vs 24 average. And the turbo diesel has 100 more torque. I bet it drives much nicer actually. And with the cash on the hood there is no premium for it ... why not
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:36 pm
[user not found] wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:34 pm

We’ve had maybe two people test drive it. Nobody cares.
Slower than the base model more expensive than the turbo and gas mileage is hardly better than either. Diesel around me is more expensive than 93 so it makes no sense to anyone. I feel bad for Mazda. It’s a nice car but wrong time.


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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:38 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:34 pm

All the mustangs they had were 4cyl verts. We only got the USS Mullet because the V6 we jumped into didn’t have any keys inside for some reason so the dude gave us the big dick V8 SS as it was the only one left.

I’d take a Chally RT or SRT if they had one tho.
Y'all have Hertz Trump circle choice or whatever it's called?
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max225 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:54 pm It’s a bit of a delta 27 mpg vs 24 average. And the turbo diesel has 100 more torque. I bet it drives much nicer actually. And with the cash on the hood there is no premium for it ... why not
Diesel costs more than premium. It’s damn near a full dollar more than regular. For a car that’s slower than the base engine. It makes no sense at all.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:11 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:54 pm It’s a bit of a delta 27 mpg vs 24 average. And the turbo diesel has 100 more torque. I bet it drives much nicer actually. And with the cash on the hood there is no premium for it ... why not
Diesel costs more than premium. It’s damn near a full dollar more than regular. For a car that’s slower than the base engine. It makes no sense at all.
It’s a completely different power delivery. Just like my tdi was “slower” than a gti. But it wasn’t in daily driving. Because peak power hit at 2400 rpm...
It’s a different type of drive, ironically one you would likely enjoy very much.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:11 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:54 pm It’s a bit of a delta 27 mpg vs 24 average. And the turbo diesel has 100 more torque. I bet it drives much nicer actually. And with the cash on the hood there is no premium for it ... why not
Diesel costs more than premium. It’s damn near a full dollar more than regular. For a car that’s slower than the base engine. It makes no sense at all.
I checked Pittsburgh, you guys are at $2.79 for regular and 3.32 for diesel. 50 cents is nothing to sneeze at but it will average better than the weezy gas motor and it’s
A more premium driving experience. With 6-10k on
The hood it makes all the sense imo
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There’s no premium driving experience with a diesel, especially a 4 cylinder as diesels are still crap in terms of NVH.

Not sure what Mazda was thinking.
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Swedish Chef wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:51 am There’s no premium driving experience with a diesel, especially a 4 cylinder as diesels are still crap in terms of NVH.

Not sure what Mazda was thinking.
I think by premium they mean it makes enough torque down low that it’s hardly ever revving out.

But it’s as slow as a crosstrek. So I dunno. I’m sure it’s nice enough but it’s a hard ask when that costs more than the very good 2.5T engine they already have. The VW TDIs were slower than the 5cyl gassers but around town normal driving they felt pretty strong. When you got on the highway they were turds. But more than that VW paired the turbo Diesel engine with the dual clutch trans that didn’t lose boost between shifts. Without that trans it would have felt a lot slower.
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max225 wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:07 am
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:11 pm

Diesel costs more than premium. It’s damn near a full dollar more than regular. For a car that’s slower than the base engine. It makes no sense at all.
I checked Pittsburgh, you guys are at $2.79 for regular and 3.32 for diesel. 50 cents is nothing to sneeze at but it will average better than the weezy gas motor and it’s
A more premium driving experience. With 6-10k on
The hood it makes all the sense imo
I guess I would just rather get the regular 2.5 natty and enjoy a quicker car that gets similar mileage on cheaper easier to find fuel and has far fewer upkeep requirements and no cat pee tank.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:10 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 8:38 pm

Y'all have Hertz Trump circle choice or whatever it's called?
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My dad had National executive status the last few years that shit was nice except after the Houston flooding when all the nice cars got replaced with Rogues.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:12 am
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 10:10 pm

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My dad had National executive status the last few years that shit was nice except after the Houston flooding when all the nice cars got replaced with Rogues.
Sometimes it’s good sometimes it’s kinda meh. But mostly it’s good. If you get there when a bunch of planes land they are slow to refill the lot and you could end up in a rogue or maxima or some bullshit.
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Jan 17, 2020 7:53 pm Shit. I need a V8 in my life.
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I'd fuck a Hellcat, marry a GT350 non R, kill Camaro... same as Max :sissyfight:
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