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Melon wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:16 am To be fair, a properly setup from the factory car is a nice thing to have.
The new MX-5s with the uprated engines are :megusta:

A well engineered and packaged car is something to cherish and behold.
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Is there such a thing as a car that's perfect from the factory? They're nearly all tuned for fuel economy and understeer.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:22 pm Is there such a thing as a car that's perfect from the factory? They're nearly all tuned for fuel economy and understeer.
Some are perfect enough for 99% of people.

To be clear, I'm not opposed to simple mods, but tearing a car apart to do a ton of crap to it usually means you started with the wrong car. I won't be doing that anymore.

Swaybars, Endlinks, Wheels, Tires, and light, easy to revert mods are okay to me. YMMV.
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dubshow wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:05 am Im buying Swedish's jb1. :troywax:

rip clutch
In4impressions before the clutch slips. :doit:
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dubshow wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:05 am Im buying Swedish's jb1. :troywax:

rip clutch
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If you don't enjoy automobiles the way that I enjoy automobiles, you're doing it wrong, and also of lesser intelligence.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:32 pm I mean... I mod some :iono:

It really depends on what you're doing. It's not that OEMs design poorly, but they do design to fit mass markets, to sell at a certain price, etc. Going to track your car? It's going to need some shit. Going to do serious offroading? Most things will need some shit.

The exhaust made me like my BMW 100% more, it's way less boring with some snap, crackle, pop. Things that majorly sacrifice reliability for a daily are a :nope: though.

Believe it or not, some things can be done for enjoyment rather than just financial gainz and fiscal responsibility.
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Lighter wheels, GOOD tires
Well designed intake and exhaust
Sway bars that are not over the top.
WELL DESIGNED, tested and proven exhaust Mods.
WELL DESIGNED Intake Mods.
Tested and proven damper mods.

I think most factory suspension setups are compromises but on the other hand they are engineered compromises. I managed to put a damper, spring sway bar setup on my GTI that really helped the handling a lot with little ride compromise (I liked it better, really) but that was based on a LOT of reviews and experiments done by others. I do enjoy buying a car with strong aftermarket support.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 12:56 pm
dubshow wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:05 am Im buying Swedish's jb1. :troywax:

rip clutch
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dubshow wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:05 am Im buying Swedish's jb1. :troywax:

rip clutch
In4impressions before the clutch slips. :doit:
low boost mode yo. Im no moran.
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D Griff wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:32 pm I mean... I mod some :iono:

It really depends on what you're doing. It's not that OEMs design poorly, but they do design to fit mass markets, to sell at a certain price, etc. Going to track your car? It's going to need some shit. Going to do serious offroading? Most things will need some shit.

The exhaust made me like my BMW 100% more, it's way less boring with some snap, crackle, pop. Things that majorly sacrifice reliability for a daily are a :nope: though.

Believe it or not, some things can be done for enjoyment rather than just financial gainz and fiscal responsibility.
This an entire forum is proof that we obviously don’t care about financial gainz or fiscal responsibility. :iono:
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Melon wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:07 pm If you don't enjoy automobiles the way that I enjoy automobiles, you're doing it wrong, and also of lesser intelligence.
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Melon wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 1:07 pm If you don't enjoy automobiles the way that I enjoy automobiles, you're doing it wrong, and also of lesser intelligence.
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:wrong: crowd still getting all fired up because there is a disagreement in opinion.
No one cares if you MoD. Do what makes you happy!
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:26 pm :wrong: crowd still getting all fired up because there is a disagreement in opinion.
No one cares if you MoD. Do what makes you happy!
No, fuck you man, you're "cancelled".

Motherfucking snowflakes think it's their way or nothing and if you have another opinion you're life is about to be ruined by the social justice warriors that have been self appointed to do so.
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Remember when America meant everyone could have an opinion?

Now if you don't agree with the illogical masses you get hunted down and your life as you know it is over.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:44 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:26 pm :wrong: crowd still getting all fired up because there is a disagreement in opinion.
No one cares if you MoD. Do what makes you happy!
No, fuck you man, you're "cancelled".

Motherfucking snowflakes think it's their way or nothing and if you have another opinion you're life is about to be ruined by the social justice warriors that have been self appointed to do so.
My OpInIoN mAtTerS how dare you present a different one. IT PERSONALLY OFFENDS ME AND MY ANCESTORS.

This is why I am pissed at this :wrong: emoji now, everyone is just hiding behind it with a rallying cry of the "INJUSTICE OF DFD".
we're here to talk, we're all different, that's what makes it fun. If you want group think go join a communist country.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:44 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:26 pm :wrong: crowd still getting all fired up because there is a disagreement in opinion.
No one cares if you MoD. Do what makes you happy!
No, fuck you man, you're "cancelled".

Motherfucking snowflakes think it's their way or nothing and if you have another opinion you're life is about to be ruined by the social justice warriors that have been self appointed to do so.


:sad: Where will we get another Soviet handwringer? That shit doesn't grow on trees.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Feb 09, 2023 3:21 pm Earn it and burn it, Val.
max225 wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 5:35 pm Yes it's a cool car. But prepare the lube/sawdust.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:46 pm Remember when America meant everyone could have an opinion?

Now if you don't agree with the illogical masses you get hunted down and your life as you know it is over.
did :waxer:. get cancelled?

if so that's :wrong:
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:47 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:44 pm

No, fuck you man, you're "cancelled".

Motherfucking snowflakes think it's their way or nothing and if you have another opinion you're life is about to be ruined by the social justice warriors that have been self appointed to do so.
My OpInIoN mAtTerS how dare you present a different one. IT PERSONALLY OFFENDS ME AND MY ANCESTORS.

This is why I am pissed at this :wrong: emoji now, everyone is just hiding behind it with a rallying cry of the "INJUSTICE OF DFD".
we're here to talk, we're all different, that's what makes it fun. If you want group think go join a communist country.
:wrong:
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FWIW, I don’t think anyone, ok maybe just me, is hiding behind the :wrong: emoji. Often I just don’t feel like articulating my position in another :deadhorse: discussion
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[user not found] wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:21 am
Huckleberry wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 10:03 am I like turning wrenches, but modding your only car is for 20 year olds. It's a lot more relaxing and enjoyable to be able to do what I want with a secondary vehicle without the mad dash to meet a Monday morning deadline so I can get to work. I'm not adverse to modifying a primary vehicle, but it would be things that don't affect driving manners or comfort. The only stock vehicle I own is the GTI, and I really don't feel like adversely affecting its warranty because it is also the only vehicle where the repairs are not on me.
I've grown out of it.

I now want to buy a car as I want it from the factory.

Plus... since I'm never really tied to a car, modding and demodding a car when it inevitably gets the :plac: is exhausting.
The only time I demodded a vehicle was when I traded in a truck that had headers on it. I left the headers on and the dealer called me the next day asking for the manifolds back. I said, "Sure. Give me the headers, then."

I gave them the stock pieces and they gave me the headers.


Otherwise, I'm not too concerned about pulling parts off and trying to sell them separately. It's a huge pain in the ass weeding out the no-money-having, low-balling cheapskates.
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4zilch wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:57 pm FWIW, I don’t think anyone, ok maybe just me, is hiding behind the :wrong: emoji. Often I just don’t feel like articulating my position in another :deadhorse: discussion
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Huckleberry wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:03 pm
[user not found] wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 11:21 am

I've grown out of it.

I now want to buy a car as I want it from the factory.

Plus... since I'm never really tied to a car, modding and demodding a car when it inevitably gets the :plac: is exhausting.
The only time I demodded a vehicle was when I traded in a truck that had headers on it. I left the headers on and the dealer called me the next day asking for the manifolds back. I said, "Sure. Give me the headers, then."

I gave them the stock pieces and they gave me the headers.


Otherwise, I'm not too concerned about pulling parts off and trying to sell them separately. It's a huge pain in the ass weeding out the no-money-having, low-balling cheapskates.
I tried to re sell a short shifter on a forum once. $150 unit. People offering me $15 shipped. I threw it out.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:09 pm
Huckleberry wrote: Thu Jan 16, 2020 3:03 pm

The only time I demodded a vehicle was when I traded in a truck that had headers on it. I left the headers on and the dealer called me the next day asking for the manifolds back. I said, "Sure. Give me the headers, then."

I gave them the stock pieces and they gave me the headers.


Otherwise, I'm not too concerned about pulling parts off and trying to sell them separately. It's a huge pain in the ass weeding out the no-money-having, low-balling cheapskates.
I tried to re sell a short shifter on a forum once. $150 unit. People offering me $15 shipped. I threw it out.
my grom was the last major demod I'll do. such a fucking pain in the ass.

I'll buy allllll the used things doe. got cheap backbusters for the Kawasaki recently
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