Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

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Took the freedom panels off the JL yesterday; it was :neat:

Freedom panels off, front doors off; gonna be a cool way to cruise the beach this summer. :excited:
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:22 pm https://www.fremontcdjr.com/inventory/n ... g7kw645504

Come get yo jeep @Dgriff NO AC!
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AC is the one must have feature though. And a cool color. Good :dill: though.
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D Griff wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:23 pm
max225 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:22 pm https://www.fremontcdjr.com/inventory/n ... g7kw645504

Come get yo jeep @Dgriff NO AC!
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AC is the one must have feature though. And a cool color. Good :dill: though.
I am curious to drive a featureless JL. I wonder if I would hate it ... nothing about the base bothers me ...
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max225 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:27 pm
D Griff wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:23 pm

:nice:

AC is the one must have feature though. And a cool color. Good :dill: though.
I am curious to drive a featureless JL. I wonder if I would hate it ... nothing about the base bothers me ...
Do you need AC in the Bay? I guess it would suck for Death Valley trips without...
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D Griff wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 10:10 pm
max225 wrote: Mon Jan 13, 2020 9:27 pm

I am curious to drive a featureless JL. I wonder if I would hate it ... nothing about the base bothers me ...
Do you need AC in the Bay? I guess it would suck for Death Valley trips without...
I would say yes ... ac is sorta crucial.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:24 pm https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/jeep ... -ces-2020/

Stop the presses :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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where are they hiding batteries at?
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dubshow wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:54 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:24 pm https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/jeep ... -ces-2020/

Stop the presses :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:wat:

where are they hiding batteries at?
Great question.

Maybe the seats are batteries? There's not much more space to hide anything in a Jeep.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:54 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:24 pm https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/jeep ... -ces-2020/

Stop the presses :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:wat:

where are they hiding batteries at?
Plenty of space, they manage to hide a giant 6 gallon tank of piss for the diesel, the underside of a JL is empty.

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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:07 pm
dubshow wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:54 pm

:wat:

where are they hiding batteries at?
Plenty of space, they manage to hide a giant 6 gallon tank of piss for the diesel, the underside of a JL is empty.

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you realize how large the battery bank on a smaller car is, right? even like a prius that is hybrid.
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dubshow wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 3:14 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:07 pm

Plenty of space, they manage to hide a giant 6 gallon tank of piss for the diesel, the underside of a JL is empty.

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you realize how large the battery bank on a smaller car is, right? even like a prius that is hybrid.
Yes Prius battery is quite small Actually. The Jeep will have a tiny range of 35/50 miles tops.
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For those still shopping Jeeps. The willys is a great package.
For 5k you get.
Better wheels and tires
Leds
Power everything
A serious no frills approach to it.
33.9k MSRP on the 2 door
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:17 pm For those still shopping Jeeps. The willys is a great package.
For 5k you get.
Better wheels and tires
Leds
Power everything
A serious no frills approach to it.
33.9k MSRP on the 2 door
JK Willy’s didn’t come with LEDs or power anything, but I’m still happy with it. I’d get a JL Willy’s for sure.
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SAWCE wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:22 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:17 pm For those still shopping Jeeps. The willys is a great package.
For 5k you get.
Better wheels and tires
Leds
Power everything
A serious no frills approach to it.
33.9k MSRP on the 2 door
JK Willy’s didn’t come with LEDs or power anything, but I’m still happy with it. I’d get a JL Willy’s for sure.
How much was the JK upcharge? Because the JL upcharge is quite high...
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SAWCE wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:22 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:17 pm For those still shopping Jeeps. The willys is a great package.
For 5k you get.
Better wheels and tires
Leds
Power everything
A serious no frills approach to it.
33.9k MSRP on the 2 door
JK Willy’s didn’t come with LEDs or power anything, but I’m still happy with it. I’d get a JL Willy’s for sure.
No JK had LEDs, my Rubi Hard Rock had the same bic lighter powered headlights as the base model.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:02 pm
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JK Willy’s didn’t come with LEDs or power anything, but I’m still happy with it. I’d get a JL Willy’s for sure.
No JK had LEDs, my Rubi Hard Rock had the same bic lighter powered headlights as the base model.
JKs got LEDs in 17 and 18, the higher trims got them as standard actually.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/2017 ... 84713.html
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:06 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:02 pm

No JK had LEDs, my Rubi Hard Rock had the same bic lighter powered headlights as the base model.
JKs got LEDs in 17 and 18, the higher trims got them as standard actually.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/2017 ... 84713.html
Ah, I guess they got tired of getting ripped on and started buying the Chinese lights for the assembly line.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:17 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:06 pm

JKs got LEDs in 17 and 18, the higher trims got them as standard actually.

https://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/2017 ... 84713.html
Ah, I guess they got tired of getting ripped on and started buying the Chinese lights for the assembly line.
Yep there were some really wacky 18 models where they literally threw the kitchen sink at the remaining JKs. You had some sports with fucktory LEDs. It was a shit show.

I am pissed that Jeeps are still so damn expensive... a decent nearly stripped 2 door is 35k... pretty fucking insane.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:18 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:17 pm

Ah, I guess they got tired of getting ripped on and started buying the Chinese lights for the assembly line.
Yep there were some really wacky 18 models where they literally threw the kitchen sink at the remaining JKs. You had some sports with fucktory LEDs. It was a shit show.

I am pissed that Jeeps are still so damn expensive... a decent nearly stripped 2 door is 35k... pretty fucking insane.
I don't mind it.

If I decide to off my JLUR in the next 12-18 months I'm still going to do well enough. ;)

When you buy in, you appreciate the price hikes and used Jeep price support. Best trade ever was the JK for the JL. I barely lost the tax I paid.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:22 pm
max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:18 pm

Yep there were some really wacky 18 models where they literally threw the kitchen sink at the remaining JKs. You had some sports with fucktory LEDs. It was a shit show.

I am pissed that Jeeps are still so damn expensive... a decent nearly stripped 2 door is 35k... pretty fucking insane.
I don't mind it.

If I decide to off my JLUR in the next 12-18 months I'm still going to do well enough. ;)

When you buy in, you appreciate the price hikes and used Jeep price support. Best trade ever was the JK for the JL. I barely lost the tax I paid.
Yea but you got quite an epic :dill: up-front due to the Cherokee fiasco. Most aren't as "lucky".

I am trying to see the best way to "buy in" at the moment... For some reason South county is down to 35 JLs which is insane... others in the area carry nearly 100... they must have blown their entire load right before NY was over...

Hard to gauge current market pricing without that. Also there are 400 JLs for sale within 15 miles of my house... there are 0 base, 2 door willys.... :unicorn: life.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:26 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:22 pm

I don't mind it.

If I decide to off my JLUR in the next 12-18 months I'm still going to do well enough. ;)

When you buy in, you appreciate the price hikes and used Jeep price support. Best trade ever was the JK for the JL. I barely lost the tax I paid.
Yea but you got quite an epic :dill: up-front due to the Cherokee fiasco. Most aren't as "lucky".

I am trying to see the best way to "buy in" at the moment... For some reason South county is down to 35 JLs which is insane... others in the area carry nearly 100... they must have blown their entire load right before NY was over...

Hard to gauge current market pricing without that. Also there are 400 JLs for sale within 15 miles of my house... there are 0 base, 2 door willys.... :unicorn: life.
I'd call and try to get ahold of Adam at SC and see what he can do to move another unit. They probably were doing some very aggressive deals to get that low on inventory.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:25 pm
SAWCE wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:22 pm

JK Willy’s didn’t come with LEDs or power anything, but I’m still happy with it. I’d get a JL Willy’s for sure.
How much was the JK upcharge? Because the JL upcharge is quite high...
I’ll have to find my window sticker and then the actual paper work to see what :dill: I got.
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max225 wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:17 pm For those still shopping Jeeps. The willys is a great package.
For 5k you get.
Better wheels and tires
Leds
Power everything
A serious no frills approach to it.
33.9k MSRP on the 2 door
JL Willys gets larger brakes all around too.
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[user not found] wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 10:27 pm
SAWCE wrote: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:22 pm

JK Willy’s didn’t come with LEDs or power anything, but I’m still happy with it. I’d get a JL Willy’s for sure.
Reminds me, I’ve got a pile of :jeep: stuff for you.
Oh yeah!! Did you find something to ship them in?

I remembered about this a few weeks ago, but figured you’d started parting them out locally.
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SAWCE wrote: Wed Jan 15, 2020 10:46 am

Oh yeah!! Did you find something to ship them in?

I remembered about this a few weeks ago, but figured you’d started parting them out locally.
Nah, holidays hit, and I know you've been going through stuff with your mom - so I just put them on the backburner for the time being.

I was able to find a box for the rear cargo mat, and I think everything else has a box. I'll check on my way out the door today.
Much appreciated. Just let me know.
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