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max225 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:55 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 6:50 pm

That is very true. I like the new Corolla. 169 HP! And the Civic with the tiny turbo gets to 60 as quick as the last Si did.
Tons of safety tech and space as well, and close to 40 on donkey piss.
:dat: there's a lot to like about them.
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I just put my brother in law in a corolla xse hatch for $244/mo with 2500 down, 36 month lease. The car has everything. Street sign recognition, smart nav, leather, laser cruise... more tech than a $120k Panamera. Insane.
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fledonfoot wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:22 pm I just put my brother in law in a corolla xse hatch for $244/mo with 2500 down, 36 month lease. The car has everything. Street sign recognition, smart nav, leather, laser cruise... more tech than a $120k Panamera. Insane.
313 a month for a corolla tho... how many miles a year?
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fledonfoot wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:22 pm I just put my brother in law in a corolla xse hatch for $244/mo with 2500 down, 36 month lease. The car has everything. Street sign recognition, smart nav, leather, laser cruise... more tech than a $120k Panamera. Insane.
I've heard it drives well too. Pics?
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max225 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:55 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:22 pm I just put my brother in law in a corolla xse hatch for $244/mo with 2500 down, 36 month lease. The car has everything. Street sign recognition, smart nav, leather, laser cruise... more tech than a $120k Panamera. Insane.
313 a month for a corolla tho... how many miles a year?
15k, and it includes GAP which isn’t included in TFS leases by default and retails at 950, and a +20k maintenance plan that covers everything to 45k miles.

MSRP was $28,000 and the money factor is .00001, residual 12800
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:57 pm
fledonfoot wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:22 pm I just put my brother in law in a corolla xse hatch for $244/mo with 2500 down, 36 month lease. The car has everything. Street sign recognition, smart nav, leather, laser cruise... more tech than a $120k Panamera. Insane.
I've heard it drives well too. Pics?
https://www.teamtoyotaprinceton.com/aut ... /40011714/

Haven’t driven it yet.
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fledonfoot wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:04 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:57 pm

I've heard it drives well too. Pics?
https://www.teamtoyotaprinceton.com/aut ... /40011714/

Haven’t driven it yet.
That looks really good
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fledonfoot wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:01 pm
max225 wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:55 pm

313 a month for a corolla tho... how many miles a year?
15k, and it includes GAP which isn’t included in TFS leases by default and retails at 950, and a +20k maintenance plan that covers everything to 45k miles.

MSRP was $28,000 and the money factor is .00001, residual 12800
22.8? Otherwise something doesn’t make sense
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fledonfoot wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 8:04 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:57 pm

I've heard it drives well too. Pics?
https://www.teamtoyotaprinceton.com/aut ... /40011714/

Haven’t driven it yet.
I hate to admit how much I like everything about these ....
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Johnny_P wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:42 pm
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:hai: Those LED headlights are :mindblown: and the car overall is really :nice: . It rides great. They may be a bit big for you doe, at about 19x" long. NA motor, too with 185 mighty horses on 87.
I mean I think H/K really nail the cheap car segment. They have the best infotainment out there, excellent connectivity, great fuel mileage, decent performance, and tons of features for the dollar. That stupid Elantra changed my opinion of the brand. Hardly anything about that little car actually sucked. The things that did suck are remedied by higher trims (headlights, mostly).
100% :notwrong: The wife's Sonata changed my mind for sure and made me a believer in H. The thing is well built, quiet, doors close with a nice thunk, there are tons of features, comfy heated and cooled seats, dual zone CC, 2 memory drivers seat adjustments, :amaze: LED headlights, AA and ACP, drivers seat automatically slides back when you shut the car off to make it easy to get out of, etc, etc, etc. All that and more for $24k OTD. (MSRP was $29k).
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:21 pm The roads here are absolutely fucking covered with salt. Fucking :rage:
We also had small snow coming into the forecast last night, but I remember when that usually happens, I usually end up with a 2 tone paint job. This time it didn't :mindblown:
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wap wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:42 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:42 pm

I mean I think H/K really nail the cheap car segment. They have the best infotainment out there, excellent connectivity, great fuel mileage, decent performance, and tons of features for the dollar. That stupid Elantra changed my opinion of the brand. Hardly anything about that little car actually sucked. The things that did suck are remedied by higher trims (headlights, mostly).
100% :notwrong: The wife's Sonata changed my mind for sure and made me a believer in H. The thing is well built, quiet, doors close with a nice thunk, there are tons of features, comfy heated and cooled seats, dual zone CC, 2 memory drivers seat adjustments, :amaze: LED headlights, AA and ACP, drivers seat automatically slides back when you shut the car off to make it easy to get out of, etc, etc, etc. All that and more for $24k OTD. (MSRP was $29k).
:dat: the only Hyundai's that still live up to the reputation of shitty cars are Accent's. But after having a rental in Turkey a 2015 i20, being in multiple Ubers/lyft like Ioniq, Elantra, and the new Santa Fe, they came a long way, in fact slightly better than Honda's and Toyota's imo.
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MexicanYarisTK wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:10 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:21 pm The roads here are absolutely fucking covered with salt. Fucking :rage:
We also had small snow coming into the forecast last night, but I remember when that usually happens, I usually end up with a 2 tone paint job. This time it didn't :mindblown:
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 11:56 am
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We also had small snow coming into the forecast last night, but I remember when that usually happens, I usually end up with a 2 tone paint job. This time it didn't :mindblown:
Like so:

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So my dad is looking at winter beaters, and found some 2007 Jeep Liberty for sale that he for some reason thinks is basically the only good option. It's a base model with 150k miles and the dude is asking $4k. Meanwhile my friend is selling a 2007 Legacy Limited with 120k miles on it and said for my dad it would be $3k. My dad is worried the Legacy is too "old lady" and isn't sure if he wants to be getting in and out of a car? I should just let him buy the fucking Heep shouldn't I?
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:06 pm So my dad is looking at winter beaters, and found some 2007 Jeep Liberty for sale that he for some reason thinks is basically the only good option. It's a base model with 150k miles and the dude is asking $4k. Meanwhile my friend is selling a 2007 Legacy Limited with 120k miles on it and said for my dad it would be $3k. My dad is worried the Legacy is too "old lady" and isn't sure if he wants to be getting in and out of a car? I should just let him buy the fucking Heep shouldn't I?
Both are horrific choices
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max225 wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:11 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:06 pm So my dad is looking at winter beaters, and found some 2007 Jeep Liberty for sale that he for some reason thinks is basically the only good option. It's a base model with 150k miles and the dude is asking $4k. Meanwhile my friend is selling a 2007 Legacy Limited with 120k miles on it and said for my dad it would be $3k. My dad is worried the Legacy is too "old lady" and isn't sure if he wants to be getting in and out of a car? I should just let him buy the fucking Heep shouldn't I?
Both are horrific choices
I don't see what's wrong with the Legacy. My mom had an '07 and my dad always had good things to say about it. It's had all services done. There's not many good choices in the $3-4k range
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:32 pm
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Both are horrific choices
I don't see what's wrong with the Legacy. My mom had an '07 and my dad always had good things to say about it. It's had all services done. There's not many good choices in the $3-4k range
Does it have the head gaskets replaced ? Subaru’s that old aren’t the pinnacle of reliability.

Also what’s the reasoning behind a 3/4K “beater” ? Is your dad capable of working on cars
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max225 wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:37 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:32 pm

I don't see what's wrong with the Legacy. My mom had an '07 and my dad always had good things to say about it. It's had all services done. There's not many good choices in the $3-4k range
Does it have the head gaskets replaced ? Subaru’s that old aren’t the pinnacle of reliability.

Also what’s the reasoning behind a 3/4K “beater” ? Is your dad capable of working on cars
Yes HG and Timing belt were done at 105k. My dad doesn't want to drive his 300 in the salt so he's looking for a car to drive in case he doesn't move to FL for work. He's 100% Capable of working on cars and has done so his entire life, but doesn't want to work on a car he might only own for a couple of months.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:41 pm
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Does it have the head gaskets replaced ? Subaru’s that old aren’t the pinnacle of reliability.

Also what’s the reasoning behind a 3/4K “beater” ? Is your dad capable of working on cars
Yes HG and Timing belt were done at 105k. My dad doesn't want to drive his 300 in the salt so he's looking for a car to drive in case he doesn't move to FL for work. He's 100% Capable of working on cars and has done so his entire life, but doesn't want to work on a car he might only own for a couple of months.
If the Subaru has that done I’d def go that route
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max225 wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:52 pm
CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:41 pm
Yes HG and Timing belt were done at 105k. My dad doesn't want to drive his 300 in the salt so he's looking for a car to drive in case he doesn't move to FL for work. He's 100% Capable of working on cars and has done so his entire life, but doesn't want to work on a car he might only own for a couple of months.
If the Subaru has that done I’d def go that route
I agree he just has something against it for some reason. Are there any "hidden gem" cars I'm maybe not thinking of? Heated seats and satellite radio capability would be a plus.
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:55 pm
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If the Subaru has that done I’d def go that route
I agree he just has something against it for some reason. Are there any "hidden gem" cars I'm maybe not thinking of? Heated seats and satellite radio capability would be a plus.
At that price point it’s maintenance history first rest later
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WJ jeeps Are ok... but mostly beat to shit by their 7th owner
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