Car Talk 4: The Richard Hertz Rent-A-Car 500

[D Griff]

actually just called and asked me whether I wanted the front plate frame installed before going ahead and doing it.

THey know what they have...

[coogles]

when i got my I told them im walking if the car shows up with a front plate and poor prep. They had to diller transfer it in.

They laughed and I said NO im serious. If there are holes in the front bumper, I will not buy the car. They called and verified.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's this crazy.

It me to no end that the STi had holes in the front bumper for a JDM license plate right out of the factory. Which of course means in a state that does require a front plate, you'd now have TWO sets of holes.

[CorvetteWaxer]

when i got my I told them im walking if the car shows up with a front plate and poor prep. They had to diller transfer it in.

They laughed and I said NO im serious. If there are holes in the front bumper, I will not buy the car. They called and verified.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's this crazy.

It me to no end that the STi had holes in the front bumper for a JDM license plate right out of the factory. Which of course means in a state that does require a front plate, you'd now have TWO sets of holes.

Recently while shopping for my I walked from 3 dealers because the right car ended up having the bumper drilled. Made it tough to find one, at a dealer willing to move on the price, but I found one.

When I bought the mustang they were literally about to drill the holes when I told the sales guy to go take the plate mount away from them to be sure.. he came back with it and said the prep dude had the drill in his hand.

When I got my MK6 GTI it had the holes and I spent over $1k to get a new bumper cover and have it painted. Never again!

[CaleDeRoo]

I'm still waiting on my painted front plate cover from RPI. They said 6 wk wait time and it's been 8 weeks.

[max225]

(Bloomberg) -- General Motors Co., Toyota Motor Corp. and Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV plan to back President Donald Trump in a contentious battle with California officials over automobile emissions rules, splitting with major rivals including Ford Motor Co.

GM, Toyota and several other automakers plan to intervene on the administration’s behalf in a lawsuit filed by environmental groups challenging the U.S. Department of Transportation’s rule stripping California of its ability to regulate tailpipe greenhouse gas emissions.

Makes perfect sense, not useless overlapping standards set by various states.

“With our industry facing the possibility of multiple overlapping and inconsistent standards that drive up costs and penalize consumers, we had an obligation to intervene,” said Bozzella, who is also chief executive officer of the Association of Global Automakers, an industry trade group. “The decision to intervene in the lawsuit is about how the standard should be applied, not what the standard should be.”

[max225]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-fiat-chrys ... 31337.html

PSA and FCA merging again ?

[CaleDeRoo]

i3 with REX for $124/mo

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... &range=O10

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make= ... radio=true


Too bad I can't afford insurance

[ChrisoftheNorth]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-fiat-chrys ... 31337.html

PSA and FCA merging again ?

It was Renault before. PSA is a new one. Who knows what's real anymore, but I think this would be a merger. WAY better than Renault with all the Nissan baggage.

[3rdgenfan]

i3 with REX for $124/mo

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... &range=O10

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make= ... radio=true


Too bad I can't afford insurance

I saw that last night, unfortunately DE taxes leases differently than other states which add essentially an extra $100/mo to that number from what I've been told. I've been trying to snag an Ioniq EV but haven't had a dealer actually respond do an inquiry.

[max225]

i3 with REX for $124/mo

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... &range=O10

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make= ... radio=true


Too bad I can't afford insurance

How exactly is anyone getting 16,000 off sticker on the i3?

[CaleDeRoo]

i3 with REX for $124/mo

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... &range=O10

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make= ... radio=true


Too bad I can't afford insurance

How exactly is anyone getting 16,000 off sticker on the i3?

Because nobody will pay sticker for one?

[CaleDeRoo]

i3 with REX for $124/mo

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... &range=O10

https://leasehackr.com/calculator?make= ... radio=true


Too bad I can't afford insurance

I saw that last night, unfortunately DE taxes leases differently than other states which add essentially an extra $100/mo to that number from what I've been told. I've been trying to snag an Ioniq EV but haven't had a dealer actually respond do an inquiry.

Yeah I saw the Ionic lease on TCL last week or whenever.

[max225]

How exactly is anyone getting 16,000 off sticker on the i3?

Because nobody will pay sticker for one?

I am I have actually gotten quotes on these before and it was no where near that. Bmw would be completely retarded to do this.

[CaleDeRoo]

Because nobody will pay sticker for one?

I am I have actually gotten quotes on these before and it was no where near that. Bmw would be completely retarded to do this.

I just don't know how they could sell these for $55k when the model 3 exists. Much of these incentives are probably region specific too. That spreadsheet lists the new England area.

[max225]

I am I have actually gotten quotes on these before and it was no where near that. Bmw would be completely retarded to do this.

I just don't know how they could sell these for $55k when the model 3 exists. Much of these incentives are probably region specific too. That spreadsheet lists the new England area.

They are barely moving that said this claims you get a 50k msrp car for 34 and change hence the low monthly.

[max225]

So yesterday we had some folks from out of town and we went to a dinner for work.... my co worker apparently bought a Chevy Traverse. It was interesting....
it comfortably fit 6 full grown adults, I guess it was some kind of odd 2-2-2 seating arrangement. Fully loaded, with leather dual moon roofs etc.
so it was quiet, his average over 450 miles is 21.5mpg , and it was enormous of a vehicle.

I suppose I sort of get it when you have crotchfruit and dogs and are trying to carry that whole unfortunate litter with you on a road trip. But other than that

Start stop was intrusive to me, ac would cut out and smell damp while waiting at light, I fucking hate these systems.

he nailed it on an on ramp and it was a whole lotta nothin. Gm cost cutting everywhere, shit rear view and 360 camera which was essentially so low res it was useless... Car play looked low res from the 2nd row, for a thing that’s 50k as equipped it’s was disappointing. I don’t understand anyone who’d get that as is...

[D Griff]

The i3 is apretty cool car, IMO. I like it a lot more than a Model 3 as it looks cool/quirky, I prefer the interior, has actual /non company behind it... but man, I'd still have to go Model 3 because the range is , what is the point of a car that can only go 80 miles?

[ChrisoftheNorth]

So yesterday we had some folks from out of town and we went to a dinner for work.... my co worker apparently bought a Chevy Traverse. It was interesting....
it comfortably fit 6 full grown adults, I guess it was some kind of odd 2-2-2 seating arrangement. Fully loaded, with leather dual moon roofs etc.
so it was quiet, his average over 450 miles is 21.5mpg , and it was enormous of a vehicle.

I suppose I sort of get it when you have crotchfruit and dogs and are trying to carry that whole unfortunate litter with you on a road trip. But other than that
Start stop was intrusive to me and I fucking hate these systems, he nailed it on an on ramp and it was a whole lotta nothin. Gm cost cutting everywhere, shit rear view and 360 camera which was essentially so low res it was useless... Car play looked low res from the 2nd row, for a thing that’s 50k as equipped it’s was disappointing. I don’t understand anyone who’d get that as is...

Traverse is the new minivan, only worse than a minivan in nearly every way. GM infotainment sucks, and all they care about is cost cutting as you noted.

[max225]

So yesterday we had some folks from out of town and we went to a dinner for work.... my co worker apparently bought a Chevy Traverse. It was interesting....
it comfortably fit 6 full grown adults, I guess it was some kind of odd 2-2-2 seating arrangement. Fully loaded, with leather dual moon roofs etc.
so it was quiet, his average over 450 miles is 21.5mpg , and it was enormous of a vehicle.

I suppose I sort of get it when you have crotchfruit and dogs and are trying to carry that whole unfortunate litter with you on a road trip. But other than that
Start stop was intrusive to me and I fucking hate these systems, he nailed it on an on ramp and it was a whole lotta nothin. Gm cost cutting everywhere, shit rear view and 360 camera which was essentially so low res it was useless... Car play looked low res from the 2nd row, for a thing that’s 50k as equipped it’s was disappointing. I don’t understand anyone who’d get that as is...

Traverse is the new minivan, only worse than a minivan in nearly every way. GM infotainment sucks, and all they care about is cost cutting as you noted.

Well I suppose I just don’t understand spending that kind of money on something this boring, style less and with that many corners cut. It perplexed me.

Also Jeep really needs to get in on a 7 seater. I’m sure there is one in the works ... just use the gladiator chassis and add another row back there.

“First ever convertible 7 seater”

Shut up and take my money.

[max225]

The i3 is apretty cool car, IMO. I like it a lot more than a Model 3 as it looks cool/quirky, I prefer the interior, has actual /non company behind it... but man, I'd still have to go Model 3 because the range is , what is the point of a car that can only go 80 miles?

The new i3 goes like 140-180 miles I think... and with the gas motor it would be over 200.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Traverse is the new minivan, only worse than a minivan in nearly every way. GM infotainment sucks, and all they care about is cost cutting as you noted.

Well I suppose I just don’t understand spending that kind of money on something this boring, style less and with that many corners cut. It perplexed me.

Also Jeep really needs to get in on a 7 seater. I’m sure there is one in the works ... just use the gladiator chassis and add another row back there.

“First ever convertible 7 seater”

Shut up and take my money.

When you reproduce I guess you'll understand? I don't get it either. Fortunately, I never will.

Things are expensive now days That's the way of the world. Bigger = more expensive even if it sucks.

I'd get a Durango SRT. At least it's still somewhat "fun" as it makes noises.

[D Griff]

Traverse is the new minivan, only worse than a minivan in nearly every way. GM infotainment sucks, and all they care about is cost cutting as you noted.

Well I suppose I just don’t understand spending that kind of money on something this boring, style less and with that many corners cut. It perplexed me.

Also Jeep really needs to get in on a 7 seater. I’m sure there is one in the works ... just use the gladiator chassis and add another row back there.

“First ever convertible 7 seater”

Shut up and take my money.

I agree... it's weird to blow $40-50K on a of sorts... the will just ruin it anyway, why not go used?

[D Griff]

Well I suppose I just don’t understand spending that kind of money on something this boring, style less and with that many corners cut. It perplexed me.

Also Jeep really needs to get in on a 7 seater. I’m sure there is one in the works ... just use the gladiator chassis and add another row back there.

“First ever convertible 7 seater”

Shut up and take my money.

When you reproduce I guess you'll understand? I don't get it either. Fortunately, I never will.

Things are expensive now days That's the way of the world. Bigger = more expensive even if it sucks.

I'd get a Durango SRT. At least it's still somewhat "fun" as it makes noises.

Yeah the Durango also is at least attractive. So many of these vehicles are just hideous, they put no effort into design it seems. My dad has a Durango and it is a very nice vehicle, way more refined than my BMW (granted it was like 80% more expensive at the same mileage).

[ChrisoftheNorth]

AND it has a 6.4L Hemi. Everything else in the segment is irrelevant IMO.

[max225]

AND it has a 6.4L Hemi. Everything else in the segment is irrelevant IMO.

This would be great in Texas, 12 mpg ? gas is $2 a gallon. On the coasts this thing would suck balls. It’s literally $120 to fill up out here.
$400 a month for the payment shoppers is quite a burden. Which is why I suppose you never see these around here.