Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep
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I've had a 3.6 BSG for the last week and the wife has a 2.0 BSG. The two are remarkably similar. I do think the 2.0T feels "peppier", more torque down low, it's also a lot smoother on start from the ESS than the 3.6 (barely detectable on start).
She also drives like shit in a 70/30 city/highway drive and it's indicating 22mpg. I drive the same commute (literally we work .5 miles apart) and drive gentler than her and mine's indicating 20. Obviously not real world, so who knows what the real difference is, but I do intend on tracking hers just for shits n gigs.
She also drives like shit in a 70/30 city/highway drive and it's indicating 22mpg. I drive the same commute (literally we work .5 miles apart) and drive gentler than her and mine's indicating 20. Obviously not real world, so who knows what the real difference is, but I do intend on tracking hers just for shits n gigs.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Yeah they do feel close. A little more go in the 2.0, a bit of lag, a bit better MPG. I wouldn't personally give a damn which motor it had.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 8:57 am I've had a 3.6 BSG for the last week and the wife has a 2.0 BSG. The two are remarkably similar. I do think the 2.0T feels "peppier", more torque down low, it's also a lot smoother on start from the ESS than the 3.6 (barely detectable on start).
She also drives like shit in a 70/30 city/highway drive and it's indicating 22mpg. I drive the same commute (literally we work .5 miles apart) and drive gentler than her and mine's indicating 20. Obviously not real world, so who knows what the real difference is, but I do intend on tracking hers just for shits n gigs.
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Yeah. Hybrid motors stop running at a stop but all the hotel accessories keep working because they're electric because they were designed correctly.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:41 pmI will, SS systems need to be outlawed, dumbest shit ever, unless it’s an actual hybridJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:30 pm
I need more butt time in the 2.slow. Not sure I'd care which engine it had. The BSG is meh, start/stop still happens, the AC still turns off when that occurs, etc. It's 90F and humid as fuck and this is a black on black jeep so that's not acceptable, ASS system was immediately turned off. 2.0 sounds meh but does make turbo vacuum cleaner noises. V6 sounds rowdy. 2.0 feels faster and better fuel economy but has turbo lag. Flip a coin.
I think maybe lean to the V6 right meow for consistency's sake? Ask me in 2 weeks.
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The one in the fiance's Cherokee is retarded. Whenever she pulls into the driveway, the engine quits, and then fires back up as soon as she shifts the trans out of drive and into park, only to be shut off immediately once the key is turned.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:41 pmI will, SS systems need to be outlawed, dumbest shit ever, unless it’s an actual hybridJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 5:30 pm
I need more butt time in the 2.slow. Not sure I'd care which engine it had. The BSG is meh, start/stop still happens, the AC still turns off when that occurs, etc. It's 90F and humid as fuck and this is a black on black jeep so that's not acceptable, ASS system was immediately turned off. 2.0 sounds meh but does make turbo vacuum cleaner noises. V6 sounds rowdy. 2.0 feels faster and better fuel economy but has turbo lag. Flip a coin.
I think maybe lean to the V6 right meow for consistency's sake? Ask me in 2 weeks.
fuck, i wish i didn't like this thing so much....
https://www.salsburys.com/new/Jeep/2019 ... 18961f.htm
I want that with a cloth top in 2 door for $38k.
https://www.salsburys.com/new/Jeep/2019 ... 18961f.htm
I want that with a cloth top in 2 door for $38k.
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LOVE that color.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:23 pm fuck, i wish i didn't like this thing so much....
https://www.salsburys.com/new/Jeep/2019 ... 18961f.htm
I want that with a cloth top in 2 door for $38k.
A minimally equipped 2 Door Rubicon isn't a ton above $40k IIRC. Problem is it would likely need to be ordered.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
right. And no way to get a on ordering. Im searching a low spec rubi 2 door in bikini and its rare AF.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:33 pmLOVE that color.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:23 pm fuck, i wish i didn't like this thing so much....
https://www.salsburys.com/new/Jeep/2019 ... 18961f.htm
I want that with a cloth top in 2 door for $38k.
A minimally equipped 2 Door Rubicon isn't a ton above $40k IIRC. Problem is it would likely need to be ordered.
i love the color even more in person on that specific one, is the problem.
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Yea, it was just half 2018 and 2019. It might be done now.
It's truly an epic color. I can't wait to see my dad's.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
If you go deeper into build you can still spec it on a 2019.
my perfect one is $47k.
There is a close match at $54k in texas, with color hardtop and tan leather...
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... 35b507.htm
and a near identical spec which is kinda odd ball
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... bdf424.htm
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I mis typed, it was a 2019/2020 offering, but only a few months in 2020.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:52 pmIf you go deeper into build you can still spec it on a 2019.
my perfect one is $47k.
There is a close match at $54k in texas, with color hardtop and tan leather...
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... 35b507.htm
and a near identical spec which is kinda odd ball
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... bdf424.htm
That second one is but damn is that a loaded up 2 door.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
I found one in Houston listed at $44k down from $51k. Its nearly what I want and heavily discounted. none color hard top doe.Detroit wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:59 pmI mis typed, it was a 2019/2020 offering, but only a few months in 2020.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:52 pm
If you go deeper into build you can still spec it on a 2019.
my perfect one is $47k.
There is a close match at $54k in texas, with color hardtop and tan leather...
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... 35b507.htm
and a near identical spec which is kinda odd ball
https://www.riveroakscars.com/new/Jeep/ ... bdf424.htm
That second one is but damn is that a loaded up 2 door.
https://www.autonationchryslerdodgejeep ... a4c7cf.htm
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Wow, solid discount.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:05 pmI found one in Houston listed at $44k down from $51k. Its nearly what I want and heavily discounted. none color hard top doe.
https://www.autonationchryslerdodgejeep ... a4c7cf.htm
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
it has a small electric motor/generator thing for instant TQ making it feel faster on take off.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:18 pm Rental for the next 2 weeks is a JLU Sport with the 2.blow.
Initial impressions are it rides both better and worse than the Ram Rebel, and wind noise is a hell of a lot less than the rental I had. Haven't had it in a windy situation yet. The turbo does have lag that the V6 didn't, both feel about the same power wise, a bit more ass down low with the boosted motor, V6 sounded better.
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I'll be curious to compare the wife's JL 2.0 with BSG to my dad's 2.0 without. His is a 2-door and will feel faster because of that, but I'm wondering if the lag will be more pronounced in his.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:59 pmit has a small electric motor/generator thing for instant TQ making it feel faster on take off.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:18 pm Rental for the next 2 weeks is a JLU Sport with the 2.blow.
Initial impressions are it rides both better and worse than the Ram Rebel, and wind noise is a hell of a lot less than the rental I had. Haven't had it in a windy situation yet. The turbo does have lag that the V6 didn't, both feel about the same power wise, a bit more ass down low with the boosted motor, V6 sounded better.
The worst is the ESS That electric motor on the BSG starts the engine almost imperceptibly. I spent all week driving the 3.6 with BSG without turning off ESS, it didn't bother me at all.
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My Gladiator would have been that color if it was an option. So epic.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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It feels like a turbo laggy Tiguan at take off.dubshow wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:59 pmit has a small electric motor/generator thing for instant TQ making it feel faster on take off.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Sep 23, 2019 4:18 pm Rental for the next 2 weeks is a JLU Sport with the 2.blow.
Initial impressions are it rides both better and worse than the Ram Rebel, and wind noise is a hell of a lot less than the rental I had. Haven't had it in a windy situation yet. The turbo does have lag that the V6 didn't, both feel about the same power wise, a bit more ass down low with the boosted motor, V6 sounded better.
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Are you sure it has BSG?
If it's a 2020 Sport, it wouldn't.
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I mean the 2 door to 4 door price difference is like 2k. So not like a 2 door will be 40k and 4 door rubi will be 60k.
If you want the toys get ready to pay.
Imo a stripper at 25k is the way to go. (HT and ac only)
If you want the toys get ready to pay.
Imo a stripper at 25k is the way to go. (HT and ac only)
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