Car Talk 4: The Richard Hertz Rent-A-Car 500

[max225]

17 service records in 31k miles ...

My dads car has 27k, has been at the dealer 2x for 2x oil changes.

[Johnny_P]

My dads car has 27k, has been at the dealer 2x for 2x oil changes.

That's because that car is a Mercedes Benz

[4zilch]

FWIW, manufacturers build to the CARB standard (with the exception of some small engine manufacturers). 49 state vehicles/engines aren't really a thing anymore.

The annoying thing about CARB is they have their own rules for enforcement - so if I have an emissions defect, the threshold to require a mandatory recall is lower, the acceptable completion rate is different, how recall completion is reported and proven is different, etc.

This article sums up things nicely https://www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/4 ... otorcycle/

IMO, what makes the most sense is a global standard developed and agreed upon by the developed countries.

Spoken like a true industry guy.

I love the smell of emissions in the morning.

[dubshow]

reprogramming?

Check the car fax

Spell it out for me. I don't know what you are getting at.

[CaleDeRoo]

The new outdoor kart track near Watkins Glen puts PVC on the for Fridays.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

The new outdoor kart track near Watkins Glen puts PVC on the for Fridays.

Would be epic fun.

[CaleDeRoo]

The new outdoor kart track near Watkins Glen puts PVC on the for Fridays.

Would be epic fun.

Troy is like 20 min away. I'd go if my bowling league wasn't on Fridays

[Johnny_P]

The 3rd owner hellcats are coming.

https://www.audibatonrouge.com/used/Dod ... bbf186.htm

This is exactly why I have a hard time spending $40k on a new CUV.

[dubshow]

The 3rd owner hellcats are coming.

https://www.audibatonrouge.com/used/Dod ... bbf186.htm

This is exactly why I have a hard time spending $40k on a new CUV.

dude... I went and looked at it last night. It has a few small scuffs and a billion swirls in black from neglect. its not terrible but will nee paint correction. put some new indy firehawk 500s on it.

Clean TRADE is like $48k, retail is $51k. its priced to really move at $44k.

[Johnny_P]

This is exactly why I have a hard time spending $40k on a new CUV.

dude... I went and looked at it last night. It has a few small scuffs and a billion swirls in black from neglect. its not terrible but will need paint correction. put some new indy firehawk 500s on it.

Clean TRADE is like $48k, retail is $51k. its priced to really move at $44k.

that's just a negotiating point I wouldn't give a fuuuuuuuuuh about that. Then again, my car has a line on the front bumper where it got backed into, a gouge out of the rear bumper from a bicycle that ran into it, worn paint on the trunk down to bare metal from an ill fitting license plate frame, and egg damage on the roof.

NFG.

Black car though. Hell naww. I never wash my car so getting a color that continually looks like ass even 15 mins after you wash it is

[Johnny_P]

I'd cornsider a red one tho

[ChrisoftheNorth]

dude... I went and looked at it last night. It has a few small scuffs and a billion swirls in black from neglect. its not terrible but will need paint correction. put some new indy firehawk 500s on it.

Clean TRADE is like $48k, retail is $51k. its priced to really move at $44k.

that's just a negotiating point I wouldn't give a fuuuuuuuuuh about that. Then again, my car has a line on the front bumper where it got backed into, a gouge out of the rear bumper from a bicycle that ran into it, worn paint on the trunk down to bare metal from an ill fitting license plate frame, and egg damage on the roof.

NFG.

Black car though. Hell naww. I never wash my car so getting a color that continually looks like ass even 15 mins after you wash it is

Black car is

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I'd cornsider a red one tho

Purple for me

[Johnny_P]

I'd cornsider a red one tho

Purple for me

Yeah! Or that bright blue is nice too.

I love the chally. Even an RT with a bro exhaust and 8AT would be 100% enough for me.

Bike rack doe. Doggie doe. Kids doe (if I’m lucky).

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Purple for me

Yeah! Or that bright blue is nice too.

I love the chally. Even an RT with a bro exhaust and 8AT would be 100% enough for me.

Bike rack doe. Doggie doe. Kids doe (if I’m lucky).

It's probably the only coupe that kids will fit well in, but the other stuff...yea.

I'm pretty much over sports cars. I love the Challenger, but now all I see is cost (insurance mostly), and frustration with never being able to enjoy the power and the pain over garbage roads and/or construction. Completely over it all.

I love lyfe.

[razr390]

I want to lyfe

[Johnny_P]

Yeah! Or that bright blue is nice too.

I love the chally. Even an RT with a bro exhaust and 8AT would be 100% enough for me.

Bike rack doe. Doggie doe. Kids doe (if I’m lucky).

It's probably the only coupe that kids will fit well in, but the other stuff...yea.

I'm pretty much over sports cars. I love the Challenger, but now all I see is cost (insurance mostly), and frustration with never being able to enjoy the power and the pain over garbage roads and/or construction. Completely over it all.

I love lyfe.

Chally should soak it up ok though, no? The 300 seemed fine over bad roads, same chassis.

[dubshow]

I'd cornsider a red one tho

Purple for me

THEY FETCH A PREMIUM AROUND RACE WARS

but seriously. at $44k, I could make I bought the cheapest hellcat youtube vidya

[ChrisoftheNorth]

It's probably the only coupe that kids will fit well in, but the other stuff...yea.

I'm pretty much over sports cars. I love the Challenger, but now all I see is cost (insurance mostly), and frustration with never being able to enjoy the power and the pain over garbage roads and/or construction. Completely over it all.

I love lyfe.

Chally should soak it up ok though, no? The 300 seemed fine over bad roads, same chassis.

The wheels are massive...and I think need to be to look good. I'm sure it's fine over bad roads except for the high risk of destroying tires/wheels. The same risk would apply to the 300.

[Apex]

I want to lyfe

[troyguitar]

[CaleDeRoo]

It's probably the only coupe that kids will fit well in, but the other stuff...yea.

I'm pretty much over sports cars. I love the Challenger, but now all I see is cost (insurance mostly), and frustration with never being able to enjoy the power and the pain over garbage roads and/or construction. Completely over it all.

I love lyfe.

Chally should soak it up ok though, no? The 300 seemed fine over bad roads, same chassis.

My dad's 300 is on the factory 20's and while they look great the ride isn't.

[max225]

Chally should soak it up ok though, no? The 300 seemed fine over bad roads, same chassis.

My dad's 300 is on the factory 20's and while they look great the ride isn't.

it seems totally fine to me and the 20s on that car have significantly larger sidewalls than any other 20s on cars short of rolls Royce’s. They are completely fine for shit roads

[CaleDeRoo]

My dad's 300 is on the factory 20's and while they look great the ride isn't.

it seems totally fine to me and the 20s on that car have significantly larger sidewalls than any other 20s on cars short of rolls Royce’s. They are completely fine for shit roads

Idk it's very rough over the frost heaves and washboard roads here. Not really much better than my brub. I'm sure the AWD models with 19s are better.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

it seems totally fine to me and the 20s on that car have significantly larger sidewalls than any other 20s on cars short of rolls Royce’s. They are completely fine for shit roads

Idk it's very rough over the frost heaves and washboard roads here. Not really much better than my brub. I'm sure the AWD models with 19s are better.

You are clearly