That’s kind of the way I’m leaning.fledonfoot wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:24 pmTake it.
It’s easier to find a job when you have a job... you’re in demand and hold the cards.
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That’s basically what I’m doing and while the work isn’t that fun I’m learning so much and I think it has opened up more possibilities for my future, at least I hope so.
So yeah, I guess I vote take it.
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Also things to consider....starts ups are often cash strapped and DUMP staff after their major task is done; ie if you are working on the plant as soon as its up they might fire you. Tesla did this after the roadster was in production to their engineering staff.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 3:30 pmLonger hours. It's only temporary, but that'll run until July ish of next year. Theoretically 5 days a week but likely 6. Its not a bad offer just not quite what I was hoping for. It would be a resume builder, but not sure how advantageous even that is, considering the size and scale of projects I've already worked on. Building the whole facility but it's in size compared to any refinery or even chemical plant. Pretty sure even Praxair's nitrogen plant is larger.
10000% fucking this.[user not found] wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:33 pm1) agreed
2) without a retirement plan ask for equity as a replacement. Startups (often) give it away like candy and it is where the real money is.
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I would think your skills are in high demand right now. Chase the money bro.CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:07 am Thinking about taking a pipe welding course just for the certs and looking for a union job down in NC. My current job is nice and no pressure, inside and I have my own luxuries such as my own radio, fan, mini fridge, and microwave, but fuuuuu if Union money isn't really tempting.
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Come out to San Diego and weld on these Navy shipsCaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:07 am Thinking about taking a pipe welding course just for the certs and looking for a union job down in NC. My current job is nice and no pressure, inside and I have my own luxuries such as my own radio, fan, mini fridge, and microwave, but fuuuuu if Union money isn't really tempting.
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Those guys make hardly any more than me but the work environment is garbage. I'd do it for $60-$70/hr maybe.SAWCE wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:21 pmCome out to San Diego and weld on these Navy shipsCaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:07 am Thinking about taking a pipe welding course just for the certs and looking for a union job down in NC. My current job is nice and no pressure, inside and I have my own luxuries such as my own radio, fan, mini fridge, and microwave, but fuuuuu if Union money isn't really tempting.
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I've got to update my resume then it's back on the job websitesDetroit wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 1:05 pmI would think your skills are in high demand right now. Chase the money bro.CaleDeRoo wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:07 am Thinking about taking a pipe welding course just for the certs and looking for a union job down in NC. My current job is nice and no pressure, inside and I have my own luxuries such as my own radio, fan, mini fridge, and microwave, but fuuuuu if Union money isn't really tempting.
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Its a 30 person company so they're still getting things set up but yeah I was a little wtf as well when I heard that. So asking for additional compensation and/or company equity to balance it.
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Equity...if the company takes off...can set you for life.
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me today / this am
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Equity is where it's at with start-ups. It's usually pretty standard for new companies to dole out large amounts of equity for employees to assume the risk of signing on. If the company flourishes, then those employees will receive a very generous payout.
When I was in college, I worked at a pharmaceutical company. The first employees of the company all received insane amounts of equity to entice them to leave their current jobs. Every single one of them became millionaires.
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only 168 hours in a week this is not possible to do and stay conscious.
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2.5 hours of sleep per night, plausible but output will beBig Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:30 pm
only 168 hours in a week this is not possible to do and stay conscious.
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You're not required to tell them shit.
But in my industry, leaving to go to a competitor causes so I was forthcoming about it.
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I hear ya. I went through this exact same issue when I left GM and my boss there went on me "Making a huge mistake" "You'll regret this" etc etc.
Pretty sure I'm blacklisted at GM now, but it is what it is. I actually posted quite a bit about it in this thread back in March. There was some great advice...probably worth looking back for it.
My suggestion to you is that you just make it clear that you're taking the new job for professional advancement and nothing more.
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