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It's uncharted territory, IMO. There's never been this much capacity, so it's reaching (if it already hasn't) oversupply. The rest of the year will be really interesting.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 1:57 pm It'll be interesting to see at which level the Wrangler sales will stabilize. I mean it is certainly not a vehicle for everyone, it is a bit shocking that it is moving as many units as it is. There has been a lot of pent up demand from the JK guys trying to switch over, and with super high resale values, the "payment" will be similar for most poor fucks driving SUVs they can't afford.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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This is whats been causing my scratching of head.Detroit wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 2:15 pmIt's uncharted territory, IMO. There's never been this much capacity, so it's reaching (if it already hasn't) oversupply. The rest of the year will be really interesting.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 1:57 pm It'll be interesting to see at which level the Wrangler sales will stabilize. I mean it is certainly not a vehicle for everyone, it is a bit shocking that it is moving as many units as it is. There has been a lot of pent up demand from the JK guys trying to switch over, and with super high resale values, the "payment" will be similar for most poor fucks driving SUVs they can't afford.
It’s also never been such a viable, nice day to day car for life, so maybe they can steal sales from other stuff. Plus if it’s the same money as a 4Runner you’d have to be high off your ass to get that prehistoric Toyota and that’s really the closest competitor?Detroit wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 2:15 pmIt's uncharted territory, IMO. There's never been this much capacity, so it's reaching (if it already hasn't) oversupply. The rest of the year will be really interesting.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 1:57 pm It'll be interesting to see at which level the Wrangler sales will stabilize. I mean it is certainly not a vehicle for everyone, it is a bit shocking that it is moving as many units as it is. There has been a lot of pent up demand from the JK guys trying to switch over, and with super high resale values, the "payment" will be similar for most poor fucks driving SUVs they can't afford.
Yea, true. It's amazing how many people buy 4Runners. Now it's because it's so ancient it's "cool" because it's "simple" or whatever.D Griff wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 8:04 amIt’s also never been such a viable, nice day to day car for life, so maybe they can steal sales from other stuff. Plus if it’s the same money as a 4Runner you’d have to be high off your ass to get that prehistoric Toyota and that’s really the closest competitor?
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
its a jeep thing.max225 wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 6:07 pm https://www.carmax.com/car/17269854
123k mile 2012 2 door for the small price of $20k
https://www.carmax.com/car/17116545
5 year old one for 25k
Just a whole lotta
Brand loyalty can definitely cloud the judgment.D Griff wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 8:04 amIt’s also never been such a viable, nice day to day car for life, so maybe they can steal sales from other stuff. Plus if it’s the same money as a 4Runner you’d have to be high off your ass to get that prehistoric Toyota and that’s really the closest competitor?
If it has no merit, for sure. But buying a Toyota because they have not wronged you due to stellar reliability ... I can get behind thatHuckleberry wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 11:51 amBrand loyalty can definitely cloud the judgment.D Griff wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 8:04 am
It’s also never been such a viable, nice day to day car for life, so maybe they can steal sales from other stuff. Plus if it’s the same money as a 4Runner you’d have to be high off your ass to get that prehistoric Toyota and that’s really the closest competitor?
Solely going to one specific brand without even considering other options is what I'm referring to. My mom does that shit with Lexus/Toyota. She's bought a 2005 Highlander, 2008 RX 350, 2010 RX350, 2014 RX 350, and a 2017 RX 350. When she decided that she needed a truck in addition to her RX 350, she bought a 2018 Tacoma. Not once has she ever looked at anything else.
Most people would cross shop before making a 40k purchase but obviously there are plenty of people like that and others likeHuckleberry wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 12:50 pmSolely going to one specific brand without even considering other options is what I'm referring to. My mom does that shit with Lexus/Toyota. She's bought a 2005 Highlander, 2008 RX 350, 2010 RX350, 2014 RX 350, and a 2017 RX 350. When she decided that she needed a truck in addition to her RX 350, she bought a 2018 Tacoma. Not once has she ever looked at anything else.
She's the type of person who would blindly buy a 4Runner without even considering any other option.
Ray ray has done this. Despite a few gripes and selling/buy a car every 3 years... (refuses to look at lease options) he buys a new honda pilot like clockwork.max225 wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 12:52 pmMost people would cross shop before making a 40k purchase but obviously there are plenty of people like that and others likeHuckleberry wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 12:50 pm
Solely going to one specific brand without even considering other options is what I'm referring to. My mom does that shit with Lexus/Toyota. She's bought a 2005 Highlander, 2008 RX 350, 2010 RX350, 2014 RX 350, and a 2017 RX 350. When she decided that she needed a truck in addition to her RX 350, she bought a 2018 Tacoma. Not once has she ever looked at anything else.
She's the type of person who would blindly buy a 4Runner without even considering any other option.
If you're going to be brand loyal, that's a better way to go than say, Jaguar or Range RoverHuckleberry wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 12:50 pmSolely going to one specific brand without even considering other options is what I'm referring to. My mom does that shit with Lexus/Toyota. She's bought a 2005 Highlander, 2008 RX 350, 2010 RX350, 2014 RX 350, and a 2017 RX 350. When she decided that she needed a truck in addition to her RX 350, she bought a 2018 Tacoma. Not once has she ever looked at anything else.
She's the type of person who would blindly buy a 4Runner without even considering any other option.
A first owner for a Range Rover doesn't usually own it out of warranty so it's not like the give a fk about any repairs unless their newish car starts leaving them stranded next to the Chanel store on Rodeo drive.Desertbreh wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 1:51 pmIf you're going to be brand loyal, that's a better way to go than say, Jaguar or Range RoverHuckleberry wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 12:50 pm
Solely going to one specific brand without even considering other options is what I'm referring to. My mom does that shit with Lexus/Toyota. She's bought a 2005 Highlander, 2008 RX 350, 2010 RX350, 2014 RX 350, and a 2017 RX 350. When she decided that she needed a truck in addition to her RX 350, she bought a 2018 Tacoma. Not once has she ever looked at anything else.
She's the type of person who would blindly buy a 4Runner without even considering any other option.