Kamry XSE impressions and further updates

max225 · Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:09 am

Azn is picking up half the tab. I guess she is a keeper. Only good thing that happened today.

wap · Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:02 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:09 am Azn is picking up half the tab. I guess she is a keeper. Only good thing that happened today.

max225 · Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:43 pm

They do a good job washing the cars tho ... :notbad:

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Apex · Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:51 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:43 pm

They do a good job washing the cars tho ...

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is a nice looking ride.

Irish · Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:07 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:09 am Azn is picking up half the tab. I guess she is a keeper. Only good thing that happened today.

Irish · Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:08 pm

Apex wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:51 pm
max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:43 pm

They do a good job washing the cars tho ...

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is a nice looking ride.

Beautiful car, mang :jelly:

max225 · Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:14 pm

Thanks guys

wap · Wed Apr 17, 2019 3:41 pm

Irish wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:08 pm
Apex wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:51 pm

is a nice looking ride.
Beautiful car, mang

Johnny_P · Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:51 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:43 pm

They do a good job washing the cars tho ...

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Why no hard park tho?

max225 · Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:54 pm

i don't need to show off and pretend like I am "different"

razr390 · Wed Apr 17, 2019 5:17 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:09 am Azn is picking up half the tab. I guess she is a keeper. Only good thing that happened today.

Think of it as a down payment on the ring.

Johnny_P · Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:34 am

max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:54 pm i don't need to show off and pretend like I am "different"

says the guy with the highest spec M3 in a lot full of bland Teslas

max225 · Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:39 am

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 10:34 am
max225 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:54 pm i don't need to show off and pretend like I am "different"
says the guy with the highest spec M3 in a lot full of bland Teslas

They are the superior in more ways than one and I’m highly considering it

max225 · Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:38 am

Filled up yesterday for $4.49 a gallon for a cool $70, and with a tiny ass gas tank. I fill up 5x a month :disgust:

Damn at these prices nearly 1/2 of my expense is fuel. That’s starting to really reign in my :jeep:

desires

Johnny_P · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:36 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:38 am Filled up yesterday for $4.49 a gallon for a cool $70, and with a tiny ass gas tank. I fill up 5x a month
Damn at these prices nearly 1/2 of my expense is fuel. That’s starting to really reign in my desires

How much is plebe spec fuel around you? Under $3 in the blessed lands.

max225 · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:38 pm

Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:36 pm
max225 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:38 am Filled up yesterday for $4.49 a gallon for a cool $70, and with a tiny ass gas tank. I fill up 5x a month
Damn at these prices nearly 1/2 of my expense is fuel. That’s starting to really reign in my desires
How much is plebe spec fuel around you? Under $3 in the blessed lands.

$4.05-4.30 most stations somewhere in the middle

Johnny_P · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:41 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:38 pm
Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:36 pm

How much is plebe spec fuel around you? Under $3 in the blessed lands.
$4.05-4.30 most stations somewhere in the middle

Model 3 looking more and more legit

Desertbreh · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:42 pm

Ok guys I will post my latest BMW service experience here, because this has been the latest spot for discussions about the Ultimate Service. So I change oil in the 440i every 5K or so miles. Recommended service interval is 10Kish, but apparently the car adjusts for given driving conditions and all that jazz. Don't want to start (another) discussion about proper oil change intervals, I drive a turbocharged German car in temperatures reaching 120 degrees, I'm going for 5000 mile changes, I'm a freeman I can piss money down my leg if I like. Or can I? 2017 maintenance plan gives me 3 years/36K miles of Ultimate Service.

1st oil change at 5K miles, I took the oil and filter to the dealer and paid them for the labor, and to have it documented in the sacred BMW log book. They reset the service indicator. At 11K miles, I took it in, told them it was time for my "freebie." They changed the oil and reset the service indicator. At 17K miles, I put the car on the Quik Jack and changed it myself coating my hands in carcinogens. I reset the service indicator. I took it in today at 22K miles, and was told that I could not have a free oil change because the car said it was not needed. I told them I was entitled to 3 free oil changes with my Ultimate Service plan, and that I was here for #2. No dice. Somebody figured out what code to enter to allow them to do my oil change at 11K miles, but today.....no.
If I am asked about my service today, I will get them a 1 out of 10. Gimme a fking break.

BMWs do not have the build quality to match the price of their cars, and their "Ultimate" Service underscores the fact that they are throwaway cars. I will not purchase another one. At one time they were a car for car guys, now they are German Lincolns, M cars excepted.

Desertbreh · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:43 pm

max225 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:38 pm
Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:36 pm

How much is plebe spec fuel around you? Under $3 in the blessed lands.
$4.05-4.30 most stations somewhere in the middle

I paid $4.49 to put 1/2 a tank in the C6 this weekend.

Johnny_P · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:47 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:43 pm
max225 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:38 pm
$4.05-4.30 most stations somewhere in the middle
I paid $4.49 to put 1/2 a tank in the C6 this weekend.

Cheap as fuck. My car is $35 for a half tank.

Apex · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:47 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:42 pm Ok guys I will post my latest BMW service experience here, because this has been the latest spot for discussions about the Ultimate Service. So I change oil in the 440i every 5K or so miles. Recommended service interval is 10Kish, but apparently the car adjusts for given driving conditions and all that jazz. Don't want to start (another) discussion about proper oil change intervals, I drive a turbocharged German car in temperatures reaching 120 degrees, I'm going for 5000 mile changes, I'm a freeman I can piss money down my leg if I like. Or can I? 2017 maintenance plan gives me 3 years/36K miles of Ultimate Service.

1st oil change at 5K miles, I took the oil and filter to the dealer and paid them for the labor, and to have it documented in the sacred BMW log book. They reset the service indicator. At 11K miles, I took it in, told them it was time for my "freebie." They changed the oil and reset the service indicator. At 17K miles, I put the car on the Quik Jack and changed it myself coating my hands in carcinogens. I reset the service indicator. I took it in today at 22K miles, and was told that I could not have a free oil change because the car said it was not needed. I told them I was entitled to 3 free oil changes with my Ultimate Service plan, and that I was here for #2. No dice. Somebody figured out what code to enter to allow them to do my oil change at 11K miles, but today.....no.
If I am asked about my service today, I will get them a 1 out of 10. Gimme a fking break.

BMWs do not have the build quality to match the price of their cars, and their "Ultimate" Service underscores the fact that they are throwaway cars. I will not purchase another one. At one time they were a car for car guys, now they are German Lincolns, M cars excepted.

If you didn't reset the service indicator you would have been fine.

max225 · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:48 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:42 pm Ok guys I will post my latest BMW service experience here, because this has been the latest spot for discussions about the Ultimate Service. So I change oil in the 440i every 5K or so miles. Recommended service interval is 10Kish, but apparently the car adjusts for given driving conditions and all that jazz. Don't want to start (another) discussion about proper oil change intervals, I drive a turbocharged German car in temperatures reaching 120 degrees, I'm going for 5000 mile changes, I'm a freeman I can piss money down my leg if I like. Or can I? 2017 maintenance plan gives me 3 years/36K miles of Ultimate Service.

1st oil change at 5K miles, I took the oil and filter to the dealer and paid them for the labor, and to have it documented in the sacred BMW log book. They reset the service indicator. At 11K miles, I took it in, told them it was time for my "freebie." They changed the oil and reset the service indicator. At 17K miles, I put the car on the Quik Jack and changed it myself coating my hands in carcinogens. I reset the service indicator. I took it in today at 22K miles, and was told that I could not have a free oil change because the car said it was not needed. I told them I was entitled to 3 free oil changes with my Ultimate Service plan, and that I was here for #2. No dice. Somebody figured out what code to enter to allow them to do my oil change at 11K miles, but today.....no.
If I am asked about my service today, I will get them a 1 out of 10. Gimme a fking break.

BMWs do not have the build quality to match the price of their cars, and their "Ultimate" Service underscores the fact that they are throwaway cars. I will not purchase another one. At one time they were a car for car guys, now they are German Lincolns, M cars excepted.

Yep, this is not surprising at all, which is why they didn’t change my brake fluid per my earlier rants. It has nothing to do with “German Lincoln’s” it has everything to do with how expensive they made their services, they refuse to “eat the cost” because car is not telling them it’s due, if the car doesn’t tell em they won’t do it. Next time don’t reset the counter.
This “free maintenance”, is a huge financial burden for BMW and it shows, which is why they are slowly but surely getting rid of it. It must be somewhere around 2-6k Depending on which car you get.

Coupled with epic depreciation, and the fact that they are so heavily skewed towards leases they must be bleeding themselves dry in the US

Desertbreh · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:48 pm

Apex wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:47 pm
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:42 pm Ok guys I will post my latest BMW service experience here, because this has been the latest spot for discussions about the Ultimate Service. So I change oil in the 440i every 5K or so miles. Recommended service interval is 10Kish, but apparently the car adjusts for given driving conditions and all that jazz. Don't want to start (another) discussion about proper oil change intervals, I drive a turbocharged German car in temperatures reaching 120 degrees, I'm going for 5000 mile changes, I'm a freeman I can piss money down my leg if I like. Or can I? 2017 maintenance plan gives me 3 years/36K miles of Ultimate Service.

1st oil change at 5K miles, I took the oil and filter to the dealer and paid them for the labor, and to have it documented in the sacred BMW log book. They reset the service indicator. At 11K miles, I took it in, told them it was time for my "freebie." They changed the oil and reset the service indicator. At 17K miles, I put the car on the Quik Jack and changed it myself coating my hands in carcinogens. I reset the service indicator. I took it in today at 22K miles, and was told that I could not have a free oil change because the car said it was not needed. I told them I was entitled to 3 free oil changes with my Ultimate Service plan, and that I was here for #2. No dice. Somebody figured out what code to enter to allow them to do my oil change at 11K miles, but today.....no.
If I am asked about my service today, I will get them a 1 out of 10. Gimme a fking break.

BMWs do not have the build quality to match the price of their cars, and their "Ultimate" Service underscores the fact that they are throwaway cars. I will not purchase another one. At one time they were a car for car guys, now they are German Lincolns, M cars excepted.
If you didn't reset the service indicator you would have been fine.

But when they reset the service indicator at 5K miles it was fine?

Johnny_P · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:48 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:42 pm Ok guys I will post my latest BMW service experience here, because this has been the latest spot for discussions about the Ultimate Service. So I change oil in the 440i every 5K or so miles. Recommended service interval is 10Kish, but apparently the car adjusts for given driving conditions and all that jazz. Don't want to start (another) discussion about proper oil change intervals, I drive a turbocharged German car in temperatures reaching 120 degrees, I'm going for 5000 mile changes, I'm a freeman I can piss money down my leg if I like. Or can I? 2017 maintenance plan gives me 3 years/36K miles of Ultimate Service.

1st oil change at 5K miles, I took the oil and filter to the dealer and paid them for the labor, and to have it documented in the sacred BMW log book. They reset the service indicator. At 11K miles, I took it in, told them it was time for my "freebie." They changed the oil and reset the service indicator. At 17K miles, I put the car on the Quik Jack and changed it myself coating my hands in carcinogens. I reset the service indicator. I took it in today at 22K miles, and was told that I could not have a free oil change because the car said it was not needed. I told them I was entitled to 3 free oil changes with my Ultimate Service plan, and that I was here for #2. No dice. Somebody figured out what code to enter to allow them to do my oil change at 11K miles, but today.....no.
If I am asked about my service today, I will get them a 1 out of 10. Gimme a fking break.

BMWs do not have the build quality to match the price of their cars, and their "Ultimate" Service underscores the fact that they are throwaway cars. I will not purchase another one. At one time they were a car for car guys, now they are German Lincolns, M cars excepted.

So what's the rec then? Didn't MB also have rather poor service or am I mixing things up? I guess Lexus / Infiniti are still the service icons, features and driving excitement possibly lacking though.

max225 · Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:53 pm

Desertbreh wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:48 pm
Apex wrote: ↑Mon Apr 22, 2019 12:47 pm

If you didn't reset the service indicator you would have been fine.
But when they reset the service indicator at 5K miles it was fine?

That's just in their procedures, you'd have to find someone willing to "over-ride" it which is a huge hassle. Because at that point they are doing you a favor and breaking internal rules. I wouldn't allow it if I was a SA it exposes them to liability.
I get your side completely but you have to keep BMW side in this in mind as well.