Legit curious how you assess such an issue.[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:09 pmAnd nor is yours. People think they don't have any power. If everyone refused, it wouldn't be an issue. It's a cultural issue at certain work places that is VERY easy to assess before you join somewhere.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:49 pm
Your life is not the beacon of truth. Plenty of others do things differently. 24/7 availability has been key around here based on the vast majority of people that I know around here. "leaving emails at work post 5pm" has not been a thing since the blackberry here.
Car talk tré: Carpocalypse Now!
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:13 pmOr those of us that have seen behind the curtain with our own eyes.
Lots of smoke, mirror and rubber bands holding things together.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Source?Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:23 amThey are absolutely cheap as dog shit. If there was an AWD one I'd have bought it by now. Partly for the trip, partly because they're so fucking usable I can't even. Promaster City, a tiny little dick van, can fit a pallet between the wheel wells! The back is a square, literally anything will fit in it. 30 MPG, NA motor, good handling.... what's not to like aside from the hideous looks?
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I would say that 90% of my meetings are Webex where nobody is in the reserved conference room.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:03 pm Every job is different you 's ... for most of us that made the switch from herding cattle to support a service economy, emails/questions come in 24/7 thanks to advancements in tech that makes you always connected. I can and do talk to people all over the world without having to physically be there... imagine that... Next up... no in person meeting no care.
Every room is almost always booked, but most of the time they are completely empty. I grab a room at random when needed and never get kicked out. I just turn off the video conference system and hold my 1:1.
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It's been hard for me as I assess other companies through glassdoor since a lot of the places I'm applying to have large factory workforces and it's all complaints about stuff that wouldn't apply to what I would do. I can't really find many reviews that pertain to corp office. From my experience, the "never disconnected" mentality can stem from just one or two managers, and not an entire corporate culture.[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:15 pmGlassdoor tells you eevvvverrryyyy thing. Spend an hour on there before you apply for a job and you'll know Tammy in the Topeka office wears too much perfume. It's a gold mine.
In my last job at my current company, nobody cared about weekend responses. But I did anyway (trying to get ahead or whatever), and got noticed by my new boss who's high up in a different department and sent an e-mail to my entire group on a Saturday afternoon and I was the only one to respond. Got me my new job, for better or worse.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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It's just a simple concept of prioritization to break people of their habits of thinking every little bullshit thing they send requires my immediate attention by placing accountability back on them. It's not living in the past or making myself unavailable or difficult to work with. Everybody complains about the incessant emailing that goes on at their job 24/7 and how it infiltrates their personal lives. So much so that New York is the latest in governing bodies to introduce legislature to combat the insanity: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-y ... 2019-01-18
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should have staged a walk out instead vs trying to get aheadDetroit wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:19 pmIt's been hard for me as I assess other companies through glassdoor since a lot of the places I'm applying to have large factory workforces and it's all complaints about stuff that wouldn't apply to what I would do. I can't really find many reviews that pertain to corp office. From my experience, the "never disconnected" mentality can stem from just one or two managers, and not an entire corporate culture.[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:15 pm
Glassdoor tells you eevvvverrryyyy thing. Spend an hour on there before you apply for a job and you'll know Tammy in the Topeka office wears too much perfume. It's a gold mine.
In my last job at my current company, nobody cared about weekend responses. But I did anyway (trying to get ahead or whatever), and got noticed by my new boss who's high up in a different department and sent an e-mail to my entire group on a Saturday afternoon and I was the only one to respond. Got me my new job, for better or worse.
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Everyone can do this. The results of the interaction happen to be diff for various individuals and roles.[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:24 pmOne thing you can do is sort by office and function. I find that very useful. Also, bold is certainly true and second paragraph isDetroit wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:19 pm
It's been hard for me as I assess other companies through glassdoor since a lot of the places I'm applying to have large factory workforces and it's all complaints about stuff that wouldn't apply to what I would do. I can't really find many reviews that pertain to corp office. From my experience, the "never disconnected" mentality can stem from just one or two managers, and not an entire corporate culture.
In my last job at my current company, nobody cared about weekend responses. But I did anyway (trying to get ahead or whatever), and got noticed by my new boss who's high up in a different department and sent an e-mail to my entire group on a Saturday afternoon and I was the only one to respond. Got me my new job, for better or worse.
I also do have to admit I'm at the level where I can basically tell people to fuck off. Which changes things substantially.
A ceo of a multi national corp telling someone to fuck off has a different implication, vs Joe Shmoe at the local compost center
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go back a few pages so you can tell me how I am about exploring the option of getting rid of the minivan for a cheaper used CUV
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Interesting. I need to play with the site a bit more.[user not found] wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:24 pmOne thing you can do is sort by office and function. I find that very useful. Also, bold is certainly true and second paragraph isDetroit wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:19 pm
It's been hard for me as I assess other companies through glassdoor since a lot of the places I'm applying to have large factory workforces and it's all complaints about stuff that wouldn't apply to what I would do. I can't really find many reviews that pertain to corp office. From my experience, the "never disconnected" mentality can stem from just one or two managers, and not an entire corporate culture.
In my last job at my current company, nobody cared about weekend responses. But I did anyway (trying to get ahead or whatever), and got noticed by my new boss who's high up in a different department and sent an e-mail to my entire group on a Saturday afternoon and I was the only one to respond. Got me my new job, for better or worse.
I also do have to admit I'm at the level where I can basically tell people to fuck off. Which changes things substantially.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Joke's on me because new job sucks and has gotten me nowhere other than great experience on my resume to take elsewhere.max225 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:25 pmshould have staged a walk out instead vs trying to get aheadDetroit wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:19 pm
It's been hard for me as I assess other companies through glassdoor since a lot of the places I'm applying to have large factory workforces and it's all complaints about stuff that wouldn't apply to what I would do. I can't really find many reviews that pertain to corp office. From my experience, the "never disconnected" mentality can stem from just one or two managers, and not an entire corporate culture.
In my last job at my current company, nobody cared about weekend responses. But I did anyway (trying to get ahead or whatever), and got noticed by my new boss who's high up in a different department and sent an e-mail to my entire group on a Saturday afternoon and I was the only one to respond. Got me my new job, for better or worse.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Its getting more complex for Tesla. A ton of new cars on the road and they need to be supported for some years for warranty. The bills are going to come due.
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Warranty and service will be the end for sure.
But I'm sure there's a rich Chinese trillionaire who will swoop in and scoop up the pieces.
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max225 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:12 amWell my dude has anyone told you about the joy and beauty of Corp life where you get emails literally 24/7 and are expected to work weekends. Your contract doesn’t even have overtimeJohnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:08 am
Typical conversation here is:
"Did Bobby come in last weekend?"
"Yeah he was here for like 2-3 hours."
"Ok, don't have him submit overtime, it wasn't long enough to qualify."
Or,
"What hours are Jake working?"
"He's doing 10 hour days"
"OK no overtime, that's within the expected work hours for the position."
That is my life, at least I don't have a company cell phone at this place. I'm still expected to have Outlook/Skype for biz on my personal phone, but I keep notifications off and ignore on weekends mostly.
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I'm personally excited for your new Rav4.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:37 pmgo back a few pages so you can tell me how I am about exploring the option of getting rid of the minivan for a cheaper used CUV
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My phone goes into "do not disturb" at 5PM, kicks off it at 6AM. Because my boss has no life, and will send out meeting notifications and follow up requests at 8PM routinely. I got sick of seeing that shit while I was at home so now.
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no 3rd row,Johnny_P wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:46 pmI'm personally excited for your new Rav4.Big Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:37 pm
go back a few pages so you can tell me how I am about exploring the option of getting rid of the minivan for a cheaper used CUV
brain go brrrrrr
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Naw bruv it's a camry/avalonBig Brain Bradley wrote: ↑Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:04 pm
highlander is truck chassis suv doe, so
crumple zones are the new hotness, dat 1980's technology yo.