I imagine if you’re carrying around a hard shell RTT that’s insulated and thick mattress it would be a lot more comfy than a tent. So I see the attraction to them. But the setup time advantage argument makes no sense if you have to set up a ground tent with it just to keep your spot lol.Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 9:37 amThat's but also why RTTs areJohnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 8:40 am
Part of me likes the concept of a RTT, the other part of me thinks its ridiculous. My major issue with it is, and I've read a bit about this on forums and such, that if you stay in a regular campground with a RTT, and you take the truck somewhere during hte day, you're packing down your whole campsite to go and then coming back and setting it all back up again. Which maybe isn't a big problem with $4k worth of slide out drawer kitchen and 2 minute tent setup, until someone else has taken your campsite because nobody is home, lol.
So what's the solution? People recommend setting up a ground tent at a campsite to claim it. Not shitting you. And then not use the ground tent.
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If you're going to pitch a tent on the ground, just stay in that.
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Maybe? Still a lot of tent material. We use cots when we camp in the tent, they're 5/7. I highly recommend instead of a mattress. Easier to setup, more compact when stored, and way more comfortable getting yourself off the ground.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:29 amI imagine if you’re carrying around a hard shell RTT that’s insulated and thick mattress it would be a lot more comfy than a tent. So I see the attraction to them. But the setup time advantage argument makes no sense if you have to set up a ground tent with it just to keep your spot lol.
I still think your ideal solution is a large SUV or VAN with some sort of comfortable sleeping accommodation for quick rests, with a tent and cot that you can pitch for longer stays at places.
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I have never cot camped. Explain to me? Larger tent needed I guess, and then what, camp pad on top of the cot, then sleeping bag on top of that?Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:35 amMaybe? Still a lot of tent material. We use cots when we camp in the tent, they're 5/7. I highly recommend instead of a mattress. Easier to setup, more compact when stored, and way more comfortable getting yourself off the ground.Johnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:29 am
I imagine if you’re carrying around a hard shell RTT that’s insulated and thick mattress it would be a lot more comfy than a tent. So I see the attraction to them. But the setup time advantage argument makes no sense if you have to set up a ground tent with it just to keep your spot lol.
I still think your ideal solution is a large SUV or VAN with some sort of comfortable sleeping accommodation for quick rests, with a tent and cot that you can pitch for longer stays at places.
I have a tent already. It's a Big Agnes Jackrabbit SL3 that I bought years ago. Need a footprint for it. I don't think a standard height cot will happen in it though. I think this will be fine for the temperatures I'll be seeing. Anchorage and Jasper will be 30-40F at night, which is probably the coldest camping I'll see. Sequoia likely to be a lot colder, like 20s at night, but I think I'll lodge it for the time I'm in that park.
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https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-765353-T ... oleman+cotJohnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:32 amI have never cot camped. Explain to me? Larger tent needed I guess, and then what, camp pad on top of the cot, then sleeping bag on top of that?Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:35 am
Maybe? Still a lot of tent material. We use cots when we camp in the tent, they're 5/7. I highly recommend instead of a mattress. Easier to setup, more compact when stored, and way more comfortable getting yourself off the ground.
I still think your ideal solution is a large SUV or VAN with some sort of comfortable sleeping accommodation for quick rests, with a tent and cot that you can pitch for longer stays at places.
I have a tent already. It's a Big Agnes Jackrabbit SL3 that I bought years ago. Need a footprint for it. I don't think a standard height cot will happen in it though. I think this will be fine for the temperatures I'll be seeing. Anchorage and Jasper will be 30-40F at night, which is probably the coldest camping I'll see. Sequoia likely to be a lot colder, like 20s at night, but I think I'll lodge it for the time I'm in that park.
https://www.rei.com/product/865398/big- ... t-sl3-tent
It's not very high, and should fit in the tent fine. I've used mine in our small 4 person Coleman tent without issues, it's fine if you're by yourself.
Wife always has to do cot, then sleeping pad, then sleeping bag. I usually just throw the sleeping bag on the cot ZFG, but sometimes the pad is nice for some extra cushion. What's nice about the cot is how easily in sets up and packs away. No blowing up anything, no pressing air out of anything, and it's way more compact than a foam mattress would be.
I spent years with sleeping on the ground with either a pad or a mattress, and it's amazing how cold/hard it can get, regardless of what you have underneath. Even in warm climates, the ground can get surprisingly cold. Getting off the ground in a cot is game changing for camping IMO.
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nice tips thanks brah. I'll look into it, maybe pick one up. Cheap as shit...Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:43 amhttps://www.amazon.com/Coleman-765353-T ... oleman+cotJohnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:32 am
I have never cot camped. Explain to me? Larger tent needed I guess, and then what, camp pad on top of the cot, then sleeping bag on top of that?
I have a tent already. It's a Big Agnes Jackrabbit SL3 that I bought years ago. Need a footprint for it. I don't think a standard height cot will happen in it though. I think this will be fine for the temperatures I'll be seeing. Anchorage and Jasper will be 30-40F at night, which is probably the coldest camping I'll see. Sequoia likely to be a lot colder, like 20s at night, but I think I'll lodge it for the time I'm in that park.
https://www.rei.com/product/865398/big- ... t-sl3-tent
It's not very high, and should fit in the tent fine. I've used mine in our small 4 person Coleman tent without issues, it's fine if you're by yourself.
Wife always has to do cot, then sleeping pad, then sleeping bag. I usually just throw the sleeping bag on the cot ZFG, but sometimes the pad is nice for some extra cushion. What's nice about the cot is how easily in sets up and packs away. No blowing up anything, no pressing air out of anything, and it's way more compact than a foam mattress would be.
I spent years with sleeping on the ground with either a pad or a mattress, and it's amazing how cold/hard it can get, regardless of what you have underneath. Even in warm climates, the ground can get surprisingly cold. Getting off the ground in a cot is game changing for camping IMO.
The mattress I was thinking would be a 3-piece foldy foam jawn. So fold up to the size of a suitcase or something. Rolling up a pad every night is for the birds.
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The foldy mattresses are still a PITA to me, but you might not find it as much. The biggest thing IMO is getting off the groundJohnny_P wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:51 amnice tips thanks brah. I'll look into it, maybe pick one up. Cheap as shit...Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:43 am
https://www.amazon.com/Coleman-765353-T ... oleman+cot
It's not very high, and should fit in the tent fine. I've used mine in our small 4 person Coleman tent without issues, it's fine if you're by yourself.
Wife always has to do cot, then sleeping pad, then sleeping bag. I usually just throw the sleeping bag on the cot ZFG, but sometimes the pad is nice for some extra cushion. What's nice about the cot is how easily in sets up and packs away. No blowing up anything, no pressing air out of anything, and it's way more compact than a foam mattress would be.
I spent years with sleeping on the ground with either a pad or a mattress, and it's amazing how cold/hard it can get, regardless of what you have underneath. Even in warm climates, the ground can get surprisingly cold. Getting off the ground in a cot is game changing for camping IMO.
The mattress I was thinking would be a 3-piece foldy foam jawn. So fold up to the size of a suitcase or something. Rolling up a pad every night is for the birds.
I would not roll up a pad every night. That would get old. But a cot is super easy. I can set both of ours up and pack them away in under a minute. stupid easy, and they're the size of a folded camping chair when packed.
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Nice!Detroit wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:57 amThe foldy mattresses are still a PITA to me, but you might not find it as much. The biggest thing IMO is getting off the ground
I would not roll up a pad every night. That would get old. But a cot is super easy. I can set both of ours up and pack them away in under a minute. stupid easy, and they're the size of a folded camping chair when packed.
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Dem beans.[user not found] wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:38 pmSo what? It can be as lavish as you want or as cheap as you want.max225 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:57 am
"survive" Over-landing turned into some lavish display of excess, similar to having a 6 bed 6 bath house while having 1 crotchfruit.
Over-landing is synonymous for essentially extreme luxury of buying $1000 off road fridges for $5 worth of soda, $2000 rooftop tents etc. Just sad. Concept is novel execution meh.
I prefer the litebrite crazies tackling insane shit and somehow not totaling their brand new wrangler and the chick is
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If you have to sleep on the ground, An inexpensive closed cell foam sleeping pad will keep you warmer than one of those expensive blown up pads. Those blow up cell pads are only good for softening where you lie down. Using both is best.
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NEVER use tow ball for recovery. That's why hitch mounted shackle mounts are great...even then you want to have a solid one.
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Not really. You could put a combo washer/dryer in the frunk with a tackle box style spice rack and kitchen on top of it that would fold out. Nobody likes the 996 interior so it’s ripe for CB radios, GPS systems, and volt meters. House battery in the back seat. It’s rather ideal.