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Apex wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:57 pm
SaxyJeep wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 12:43 pm

Don't have my rope yet, but I have prime 100% ikea grade string we can use.
Just make sure you have a rear recovery point. Pics show you have hooks up front.

[user not found] and I have straps if we need them.
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I have rear hook
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:03 pm
SaxyJeep wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 1:26 pm

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I have rear hook
You've got a rear limited slip, ja?
Eh, according to google it is not default, therefore I most likely don't have it. According to my mopar site, i have conventional front wheel differential...
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LSD :fuckyeah:
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[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:57 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:32 pm

I thought the AT tires meant you got the LSD.

What's your VIN?
You've got the LSD. Dueler AT tires = LSD.

Looked up your window sticker:

OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT (May Replace Standard Equipment)
Customer Preferred Package 24S $3,200
17–Inch x 7.5–Inch Tech Silver Aluminum Wheels
Air Conditioning
Power Windows with Front One–Touch–Down Feature
Speed Sensitive Power Locks
Power Heated Mirrors
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Sun Visors with Illuminated Vanity Mirrors
Automatic Headlamps
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8–Speed Automatic Transmission $2,000
3rd Generation Dana® Solid Rear Axle
Hill Descent Control
Tip Start
Anti–Spin Differential Rear Axle $595
3rd Generation Dana® 44 HD Rear Axle

SiriusXM® Sat Radio w/ 1–Yr Radio Subscription $295
245/75R17 All–Terrain Tires
AH. Sweet, thanks. I couldn't find the email with the sticker and was going off stock descriptions. good to know i have a slighlty lower chance of getting stuck
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SaxyJeep wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:09 pm
[user not found] wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:57 pm

You've got the LSD. Dueler AT tires = LSD.

Looked up your window sticker:

OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT (May Replace Standard Equipment)
Customer Preferred Package 24S $3,200
17–Inch x 7.5–Inch Tech Silver Aluminum Wheels
Air Conditioning
Power Windows with Front One–Touch–Down Feature
Speed Sensitive Power Locks
Power Heated Mirrors
Remote Keyless Entry
Security Alarm
Sun Visors with Illuminated Vanity Mirrors
Automatic Headlamps
Leather–Wrapped Steering Wheel
Deep Tint Sunscreen Windows
8–Speed Automatic Transmission $2,000
3rd Generation Dana® Solid Rear Axle
Hill Descent Control
Tip Start
Anti–Spin Differential Rear Axle $595
3rd Generation Dana® 44 HD Rear Axle

SiriusXM® Sat Radio w/ 1–Yr Radio Subscription $295
245/75R17 All–Terrain Tires
AH. Sweet, thanks. I couldn't find the email with the sticker and was going off stock descriptions. good to know i have a slighlty lower chance of getting stuck
Rear LSD is solid. You'll be fine for exploring.
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Hype thanks guys, good to have people who know stuff to learn this from. I am excited to enter this world
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Roof top tents don't make sense to me. You set it up, and it takes less time than a tent whatever sure, but it's attached to your vehicle and you've gotta cart it around all the time. So if you want to go somewhere, drive to a trailhead or something, you have to pack down your whole campsite just to go? With a tent or trailer you can leave your whole camp intact and just go, come back at the end of the day, no? What am I missing here?

RTT I guess makes sense if you're just on the move and not going to spend multiple days at one spot?
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Johnny_P wrote: Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:01 pm Roof top tents don't make sense to me. You set it up, and it takes less time than a tent whatever sure, but it's attached to your vehicle and you've gotta cart it around all the time. So if you want to go somewhere, drive to a trailhead or something, you have to pack down your whole campsite just to go? With a tent or trailer you can leave your whole camp intact and just go, come back at the end of the day, no? What am I missing here?

RTT I guess makes sense if you're just on the move and not going to spend multiple days at one spot?
Yeah I really like the idea of them, but just doesn’t seem like it’d ever be the most practical option unless you’re somewhere where it’s impossible to lay out a tent or there’s several feet of snow on the ground that you can clear.
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Johnny_P wrote: Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:01 pm Roof top tents don't make sense to me. You set it up, and it takes less time than a tent whatever sure, but it's attached to your vehicle and you've gotta cart it around all the time. So if you want to go somewhere, drive to a trailhead or something, you have to pack down your whole campsite just to go? With a tent or trailer you can leave your whole camp intact and just go, come back at the end of the day, no? What am I missing here?

RTT I guess makes sense if you're just on the move and not going to spend multiple days at one spot?
If you're overlanding, you're setting up camp for the night then breaking it down to head off to the next location in the morning. They don't make sense if you need your rig and camp is staying in the same spot for multiple days.
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Overlanding being different from wheeling which is different from driving, right? :wat: :dafuq:

English is a fucked up language.
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troyguitar wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:24 am Overlanding being different from wheeling which is different from driving, right? :wat: :dafuq:

English is a fucked up language.
I wouldn't call that a language thing, it's just people making up terms to define their hobbies and try to set themselves apart from others.
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SAWCE wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:11 pm
troyguitar wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:24 am Overlanding being different from wheeling which is different from driving, right? :wat: :dafuq:

English is a fucked up language.
I wouldn't call that a language thing, it's just people making up terms to define their hobbies and try to set themselves apart from others.
It's such a bizarre set of terms :doe:

Overlanding - Am I not going over land when I walk to my mailbox or drive to McDonald's?

Wheeling - Am I not wheeling when I ride my Big Wheel or roll down the street on my rollerblades or pilot my yacht?

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Off-roading or mudcamping at least make a bit more sense. :iono:
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Apex wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:14 am

If you're overlanding, you're setting up camp for the night then breaking it down to head off to the next location in the morning. They don't make sense if you need your rig and camp is staying in the same spot for multiple days.
:dat:

Also gets you off the ground and away from predators. We don't have wild beasts of the mauling type on the east coast, really.
Guess it depends what you plan on doing with it. Just one person, I can't see how this is any better than just sleeping inthe back of an SUV.
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I just find it funny that the terms don't mean anything without an explanation. Overlanding could be any kind of non-aquatic travel. Even a helicopter goes over land.

Same thing as driving on a parkway and parking on a driveway. No wonder so many motherfuckers don't speak English.
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I don't understand RTTs at all. Even for a quick setup, I'd just pitch a tent. My tent goes up in 5 minutes.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:46 pm Imagevia Imgflip Meme Generator
:fuckyeah: Accurate.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:46 pm Imagevia Imgflip Meme Generator
Smokey isn't hiding in the bushes to punish you for having fun on the trails.
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:20 pm :mahtroy: 's here to argue on semantics, naturally.

But overlanding implies travel over multiple surfaces over a distance, sometimes over multiple days, at a slower speed, and typically camping is involved. Sustainablity and responsibility is also important.

It can be the same, but is generally not the same as wheeling or off-roading, which is done by goons in :jeep: and the goal is just to make a mess of everything. Their vehicles, the trails, and their pants.
I'm down to overland,

I am down to overland, per this definition. Been meaning to plan a multi-day hiking trip w/ tenting, don't see why not throw in a :jeep: for meme's sake.

But yea, English is hard. Then you have German with its compound words. Apfelstrudelverkehrslandeswagen.
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troyguitar wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:31 pm I just find it funny that the terms don't mean anything without an explanation. Overlanding could be any kind of non-aquatic travel. Even a helicopter goes over land.

Same thing as driving on a parkway and parking on a driveway. No wonder so many motherfuckers don't speak English.
So, then speak deportese.
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troyguitar wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:59 pm
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:46 pm Imagevia Imgflip Meme Generator
Smokey isn't hiding in the bushes to punish you for having fun on the trails.
This is so true. So much fun to be had on trails.
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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[user not found] wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 3:00 pm
Detroit wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:56 pm
This is so true. So much fun to be had on trails.
:dat:

There are places to do stupid things and places to not.

Bottom line is, keep your ass on the doubletrack, don't go mowing down saplings and cutting new trail, and don't fucking litter.

And don't start forest fires.
:dat:
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Where you wanna go? Got dat van.
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rockchops wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:15 pm Where you wanna go? Got dat van.
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For anyone looking for an overlanding rig.... KL Cherokees are probably the best value out there. Newer vehicle, NA V6, low range gearing, should be able to scramble up most passes, and $8k cheaper and half the miles and 4 years newer than most 4Runners out there. A loaded 2015 Trailhawk V6 with adaptive cruise, leather, mondo sized sunroof, and navi is like $22k with 45k miles...
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