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He didn’t own that car for any decent miles, 70k tops. Has no idea if his engine and trans are original either. I have records to day 1.
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:30 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:28 pm
Might as well. :iono:
Problem is, if and when people complain about it, I'm SOL on charging options for regular use, and would have to duke it out at the Whole Foods parking garage and sit around there for an hour or two as my car fast charges...
Do it while grocery shopping once a week? :iono:
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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Apex wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:50 pm
4zilch wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:50 pm

yeaaahhh.

Insurance on the Aprilia was 2x that of the KTM despite the cost and specs being nearly identical between the two machines.
What is insurance like on the ape? Bike insurance always seemed dirt cheap to me.
It's the most I've ever paid for insurance on a bike by far.

KTM was ~$300/yr - Aprilia is $700/yr

I need to take medical payments off of the Aprilia - that'll save me a few bucks, but other than that the overages are identical.

edit: other qualifiers - I do have 1 claim in the last 3 years, so it may drop a tiny bit once that drops off, but it won't be enough to bring it into the neighborhood of the KTM.

I shopped around with other providers and they're all in the same ballpark as State Farm and all generally quote the KTM substantially less than the Aprilia.
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CorvetteWaxer wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:07 pm
Apex wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:57 pm That price delta between the Z06 and 911 insurance rates is insane.

How do people afford crowd-slaying Mustangs in CA then? That has to be $1k/mo...
That's the thing that kills me.

From my recent history:

Prius: $100/mo
Hyundai GenCoupe: $100/mo
Xterra: $110/mo
GTI: $100/mo
MK6R: $105/mo
C6 Grandsport: $95/mo
C7 Z51: $95/mo
Mustang GT: $100/mo
m235i: $105/mo
C7 Z06: $89/mo
Camaro SS 1LE: $95/mo
JKU Rubicon Hard Rock: $105/mo
Colorado ZR2: $99/mo
JLU Rubicon: $95/mo

All of those cars other than the Z06 were listed as "15,000 miles per year" on the insurance too! The Z06 and the 911 were all quoted/paid as no more than 5000 miles per year.
You had a prius? :mindblown:
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Johnny_P wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:21 pm Although there is a dieselbro that threw an extension cord out the basement window of our building and plugs in for his glow plug :rolleyes: in 60 degree weather, so maybe nobody would notice if I parked next to him and plugged in a Model 3? I'd get about 5 miles of charge per hour, so 40 miles charged per work day, only eating about 7-8 for commuting, so net +32 ish miles per work day?
I used to run an extension cord from my 2nd story apartment, down a flight of stairs, to my brodozer.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:56 pm
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No check lights of any kind... passes smog with flying colors.... but it’s going to be dead soon ... it had a good run :doe:
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:05 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:56 pm
:amazing:
No check lights of any kind... passes smog with flying colors.... but it’s going to be dead soon ... it had a good run :doe:
Why is it going to be dead soon?
Desertbreh wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:55 pm He didn’t own that car for any decent miles, 70k tops. Has no idea if his engine and trans are original either. I have records to day 1.
He talks about it somewhere and verified its the original engine and trans.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:55 pm
Johnny_P wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:30 pm

Problem is, if and when people complain about it, I'm SOL on charging options for regular use, and would have to duke it out at the Whole Foods parking garage and sit around there for an hour or two as my car fast charges...
Do it while grocery shopping once a week? :iono:
Thought about that. Not impossible I guess.
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Gberg2119 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:03 pm
CorvetteWaxer wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:07 pm

That's the thing that kills me.

From my recent history:

Prius: $100/mo
Hyundai GenCoupe: $100/mo
Xterra: $110/mo
GTI: $100/mo
MK6R: $105/mo
C6 Grandsport: $95/mo
C7 Z51: $95/mo
Mustang GT: $100/mo
m235i: $105/mo
C7 Z06: $89/mo
Camaro SS 1LE: $95/mo
JKU Rubicon Hard Rock: $105/mo
Colorado ZR2: $99/mo
JLU Rubicon: $95/mo

All of those cars other than the Z06 were listed as "15,000 miles per year" on the insurance too! The Z06 and the 911 were all quoted/paid as no more than 5000 miles per year.
You had a prius? :mindblown:
HOV lane sticker was the reason I had it. Paid for all the frustration getting to shave 45-60 minutes off my afternoon commute at the time.
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Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:07 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:05 pm

No check lights of any kind... passes smog with flying colors.... but it’s going to be dead soon ... it had a good run :doe:
Why is it going to be dead soon?
Dreaded timing chain curse.

To my knowledge there is no timing chain that lasts past 300k miles without "maintenance" this is kind of an exception. Most tend to wear out by 150-250k miles, (see any german timing chain motor). 03+ crown vics don't last that long either.

There are little plastic tabs, that the chain "glides" over, I am sure mine are worn out, but a timing chain refurb cost $2000 and a new engine is about $500, I don't want to tackle a timing chain job on this car... wayy too much work.

I always thought chains>Belts, but now... belts make a shit ton more sense, as you can change em every 120-150k and roll essentially forever if you change the oil.

You should have seen what the water pump looks like, literally brand new (from the water side). Following maintenance intervals is key. People just ruin cars by never maintaining. Only reason I changed it is a $1 O ring failed, I didn't want to take chances and bought a $39.95 water pump... changed it in 30 min. Once again... good luck doing that on any other car.
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4zilch wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:09 am Overall I think touchscreens are getting pretty darn reliable. We're getting them on motorcycles, which are far more exposed to elements than cars and they seem to be holding up well :iono:

So much DFD doom and gloom. Remember when your HVAC knobs would crack and fall off? Or when a button would get stuck? I :member:
honestly i think most people's (and my own) issue with this is the tactile feel of a button. with screens, you HAVE to look to hit the thing you are trying to do. Whit knobs and buttons you can reach out and feel it without taking your eyes off the road. Its a preference / safety thing.
This. I used to be able to text paragraphs while driving without looking at my phone because i knew how many taps of the button. I dont look at the buttons at all in the car to listen to whatever station. Even the seventh station that doesnt fit. Bam! Press button six for KROQ and back off on the tuning knob half a turn. Redneck country!
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:33 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:07 pm
Why is it going to be dead soon?
Dreaded timing chain curse.

To my knowledge there is no timing chain that lasts past 300k miles without "maintenance" this is kind of an exception. Most tend to wear out by 150-250k miles, (see any german timing chain motor). 03+ crown vics don't last that long either.

There are little plastic tabs, that the chain "glides" over, I am sure mine are worn out, but a timing chain refurb cost $2000 and a new engine is about $500, I don't want to tackle a timing chain job on this car... wayy too much work.

I always thought chains>Belts, but now... belts make a shit ton more sense, as you can change em every 120-150k and roll essentially forever if you change the oil.

You should have seen what the water pump looks like, literally brand new (from the water side). Following maintenance intervals is key. People just ruin cars by never maintaining. Only reason I changed it is a $1 O ring failed, I didn't want to take chances and bought a $39.95 water pump... changed it in 30 min. Once again... good luck doing that on any other car.
Timing chains can be better than belts if they're designed to be serviced, but since they're often "lifetime" setups which require crazy amounts of labor to service they are a bad idea for long term ownershit.
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:33 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:07 pm
Why is it going to be dead soon?
Dreaded timing chain curse.

To my knowledge there is no timing chain that lasts past 300k miles without "maintenance" this is kind of an exception. Most tend to wear out by 150-250k miles, (see any german timing chain motor). 03+ crown vics don't last that long either.

There are little plastic tabs, that the chain "glides" over, I am sure mine are worn out, but a timing chain refurb cost $2000 and a new engine is about $500, I don't want to tackle a timing chain job on this car... wayy too much work.

I always thought chains>Belts, but now... belts make a shit ton more sense, as you can change em every 120-150k and roll essentially forever if you change the oil.

You should have seen what the water pump looks like, literally brand new (from the water side). Following maintenance intervals is key. People just ruin cars by never maintaining. Only reason I changed it is a $1 O ring failed, I didn't want to take chances and bought a $39.95 water pump... changed it in 30 min. Once again... good luck doing that on any other car.
Ah, yes. No amount of maintenance will keep those timing chain guides alive. Just how they are. Agreed that it's a stupid design for long term.

That's a shame, but I guess it's good the thing survived this long. Most of the miles have probably been easy on it which helped the chain survive this long. What's the plan? Drive it until it dies?
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max225 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:33 pm
Detroit wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:07 pm
Why is it going to be dead soon?
Dreaded timing chain curse.

To my knowledge there is no timing chain that lasts past 300k miles without "maintenance" this is kind of an exception. Most tend to wear out by 150-250k miles, (see any german timing chain motor). 03+ crown vics don't last that long either.

There are little plastic tabs, that the chain "glides" over, I am sure mine are worn out, but a timing chain refurb cost $2000 and a new engine is about $500, I don't want to tackle a timing chain job on this car... wayy too much work.

I always thought chains>Belts, but now... belts make a shit ton more sense, as you can change em every 120-150k and roll essentially forever if you change the oil.

You should have seen what the water pump looks like, literally brand new (from the water side). Following maintenance intervals is key. People just ruin cars by never maintaining. Only reason I changed it is a $1 O ring failed, I didn't want to take chances and bought a $39.95 water pump... changed it in 30 min. Once again... good luck doing that on any other car.
Agreed on timing chain and belt. Belts are fine.
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troyguitar wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:39 pm
max225 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 4:33 pm

Dreaded timing chain curse.

To my knowledge there is no timing chain that lasts past 300k miles without "maintenance" this is kind of an exception. Most tend to wear out by 150-250k miles, (see any german timing chain motor). 03+ crown vics don't last that long either.

There are little plastic tabs, that the chain "glides" over, I am sure mine are worn out, but a timing chain refurb cost $2000 and a new engine is about $500, I don't want to tackle a timing chain job on this car... wayy too much work.

I always thought chains>Belts, but now... belts make a shit ton more sense, as you can change em every 120-150k and roll essentially forever if you change the oil.

You should have seen what the water pump looks like, literally brand new (from the water side). Following maintenance intervals is key. People just ruin cars by never maintaining. Only reason I changed it is a $1 O ring failed, I didn't want to take chances and bought a $39.95 water pump... changed it in 30 min. Once again... good luck doing that on any other car.
Timing chains can be better than belts if they're designed to be serviced, but since they're often "lifetime" setups which require crazy amounts of labor to service they are a bad idea for long term ownershit.
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Fuck yall. Chains are WAY better. especially on modern interference engines
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CaleDeRoo wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:19 pm $250/mo for :truk: and :poorvette: with no collision on either for the winter.



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