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Calvinball wrote: Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:55 pm
wap wrote: First and most important, Congratulations on your upcoming year of sobriety. That's awesome. :bravo:

For some reason, I find that when I drink beers in Europe I don't seem to get nearly as :drunk: as I would if I drank as much here at home. :notsure: if it is actually the case, but I drank LITERS of high %age beers in Munich and it didn't affect me like it for sure would here. :iono:
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For real :notsure: ?


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Having this tonight. It is fan-fucking-tastic.

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Calvinball wrote: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:50 pm
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For real :notsure: ?


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Yes. I think it's something more physiological than psychological.
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Yes. I think it's something more physiological than psychological.
You think those two things are mutually exclusive?


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Calvinball wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:37 am
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Yes. I think it's something more physiological than psychological.
You think those two things are mutually exclusive?


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I don’t think this but am curious what science has to say about it?
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You think those two things are mutually exclusive?


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I don’t think this but am curious what science has to say about it?
The old nature vs nurture, medical vs mental school of thought is outdated. Everything is intertwined.


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Calvinball wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:37 pm
Thedude wrote: I don’t think this but am curious what science has to say about it?
The old nature vs nurture, medical vs mental school of thought is outdated. Everything is intertwined.


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What does this mean exactly? It's all nature now? Or vice versa?
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Calvinball wrote: Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:37 am
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Yes. I think it's something more physiological than psychological.
You think those two things are mutually exclusive?


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No, but your initial response seemed to suggest only psychological.
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What does this mean exactly? It's all nature now? Or vice versa?
It’s both.

So nature vs nurture:

Someone becomes an alcoholic. The old argument was; that was hereditary (nature) vs they became that way because of their environment/upbringing/etc (nurture).

Now the understanding is that person’s genetic makeup may have put them at a higher risk range, so like 60-80% likely to develop alcoholism, and then their environment/upbringing/etc determines whether they’re more at the 60% end or the 80%.


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No, but your initial response seemed to suggest only psychological.
I’d say physiological driven by psychological.


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Calvinball wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:26 pm
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No, but your initial response seemed to suggest only psychological.
I’d say physiological driven by psychological.


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Now you're getting closer to the probable truth.
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Calvinball wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:24 pm
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What does this mean exactly? It's all nature now? Or vice versa?
It’s both.

So nature vs nurture:

Someone becomes an alcoholic. The old argument was; that was hereditary (nature) vs they became that way because of their environment/upbringing/etc (nurture).

Now the understanding is that person’s genetic makeup may have put them at a higher risk range, so like 60-80% likely to develop alcoholism, and then their environment/upbringing/etc determines whether they’re more at the 60% end or the 80%.


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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that's what I thought was the current understanding with the advent of epi-genetics... but I thought it was this way for a while now so your post made me wonder if current understanding is being overturned.
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Calvinball wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:24 pm It’s both.

So nature vs nurture:

Someone becomes an alcoholic. The old argument was; that was hereditary (nature) vs they became that way because of their environment/upbringing/etc (nurture).

Now the understanding is that person’s genetic makeup may have put them at a higher risk range, so like 60-80% likely to develop alcoholism, and then their environment/upbringing/etc determines whether they’re more at the 60% end or the 80%.


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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that's what I thought was the current understanding with the advent of epi-genetics... but I thought it was this way for a while now so your post made me wonder if current understanding is being overturned.
Oh no, and yeah I guess it has been a while.
1. I guess wishful thinking on my part that that much time hasn’t gone by :lolol:
2. I’m also used to explaining things to people who have no idea.


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I wish they would distribute here again.


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Wasn’t expecting to get this this year, but being recognizable at local beer places means you get flagged down when there’s something special hiding behind the counter.


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Calvinball wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:31 am
wap wrote:Battle Priest IPA.
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I wish they would distribute here again.


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Why did they stop?
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Why did they stop?
No idea, that was like 15 years ago.


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