Calvinball wrote: ↑Sun Oct 21, 2018 7:55 pm:psychology:wap wrote: First and most important, Congratulations on your upcoming year of sobriety. That's awesome.
For some reason, I find that when I drink beers in Europe I don't seem to get nearly as as I would if I drank as much here at home. if it is actually the case, but I drank LITERS of high %age beers in Munich and it didn't affect me like it for sure would here.
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For real ?wap wrote:
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Having this tonight. It is fan-fucking-tastic.
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You think those two things are mutually exclusive?wap wrote:Yes. I think it's something more physiological than psychological.
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I don’t think this but am curious what science has to say about it?Calvinball wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:37 amYou think those two things are mutually exclusive?wap wrote:
Yes. I think it's something more physiological than psychological.
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The old nature vs nurture, medical vs mental school of thought is outdated. Everything is intertwined.Thedude wrote:I don’t think this but am curious what science has to say about it?Calvinball wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:37 am
You think those two things are mutually exclusive?
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What does this mean exactly? It's all nature now? Or vice versa?Calvinball wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:37 pmThe old nature vs nurture, medical vs mental school of thought is outdated. Everything is intertwined.Thedude wrote: I don’t think this but am curious what science has to say about it?
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No, but your initial response seemed to suggest only psychological.Calvinball wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:37 amYou think those two things are mutually exclusive?wap wrote:
Yes. I think it's something more physiological than psychological.
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Agreed, this is good shit.
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It’s both.Thedude wrote:What does this mean exactly? It's all nature now? Or vice versa?Calvinball wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:37 pm The old nature vs nurture, medical vs mental school of thought is outdated. Everything is intertwined.
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So nature vs nurture:
Someone becomes an alcoholic. The old argument was; that was hereditary (nature) vs they became that way because of their environment/upbringing/etc (nurture).
Now the understanding is that person’s genetic makeup may have put them at a higher risk range, so like 60-80% likely to develop alcoholism, and then their environment/upbringing/etc determines whether they’re more at the 60% end or the 80%.
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I’d say physiological driven by psychological.wap wrote:No, but your initial response seemed to suggest only psychological.Calvinball wrote: ↑Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:37 am You think those two things are mutually exclusive?
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Quite tasty.
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Oh now this is right up my alley.
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Now you're getting closer to the probable truth.Calvinball wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:26 pmI’d say physiological driven by psychological.wap wrote:
No, but your initial response seemed to suggest only psychological.
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that's what I thought was the current understanding with the advent of epi-genetics... but I thought it was this way for a while now so your post made me wonder if current understanding is being overturned.Calvinball wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:24 pmIt’s both.Thedude wrote:
What does this mean exactly? It's all nature now? Or vice versa?
So nature vs nurture:
Someone becomes an alcoholic. The old argument was; that was hereditary (nature) vs they became that way because of their environment/upbringing/etc (nurture).
Now the understanding is that person’s genetic makeup may have put them at a higher risk range, so like 60-80% likely to develop alcoholism, and then their environment/upbringing/etc determines whether they’re more at the 60% end or the 80%.
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Oh no, and yeah I guess it has been a while.Thedude wrote:Ah, gotcha. Yeah, that's what I thought was the current understanding with the advent of epi-genetics... but I thought it was this way for a while now so your post made me wonder if current understanding is being overturned.Calvinball wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 8:24 pm It’s both.
So nature vs nurture:
Someone becomes an alcoholic. The old argument was; that was hereditary (nature) vs they became that way because of their environment/upbringing/etc (nurture).
Now the understanding is that person’s genetic makeup may have put them at a higher risk range, so like 60-80% likely to develop alcoholism, and then their environment/upbringing/etc determines whether they’re more at the 60% end or the 80%.
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1. I guess wishful thinking on my part that that much time hasn’t gone by
2. I’m also used to explaining things to people who have no idea.
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I wish they would distribute here again.wap wrote:Battle Priest IPA.
VERY happy, duh.
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Wasn’t expecting to get this this year, but being recognizable at local beer places means you get flagged down when there’s something special hiding behind the counter.
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Why did they stop?Calvinball wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:31 amI wish they would distribute here again.wap wrote:Battle Priest IPA.
VERY hoppy, duh.
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No idea, that was like 15 years ago.wap wrote:Why did they stop?Calvinball wrote: ↑Sun Nov 04, 2018 7:31 am I wish they would distribute here again.
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