US Coalition Airstrikes Against Syrian Chemical Weapons

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Gberg2119 wrote: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:31 am
wap wrote: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:06 am

Indeed.

Can't say I'm surprised, :doe:
Well the cheeto did give the ruskies 48 hours notice...
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Sat Apr 14, 2018 1:53 pm

I actually think he's right to do what he is doing. Its just a shame to see so many change their opinions based on what party the president is. It's disgusting.

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Democrats are pretty consistent on this topic it seems.
And Republicunts are pretty partisan on this topic it seema.
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[user not found] wrote: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:22 am
wap wrote: Sat Apr 14, 2018 11:06 am

Indeed.

Can't say I'm surprised, :doe:
Seems like an opportunity for them to try and find an f-35 BUT you allow mapping of your entire infrastructure.
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wap wrote: Sat Apr 14, 2018 10:41 pm
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Seems like an opportunity for them to try and find an f-35 BUT you allow mapping of your entire infrastructure.
Plus, if the Ruskies tried and failed to bring down a 35, it would be a public humiliation.
If the Russians tried to engage an f35 and didn’t get their SAM system destroyed in the process. We wouldn’t tell the public shit.
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I have a hard time believing that they managed to shoot down 70 of our munitions. I could believe something closer to 10-20.
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French Defense minister just said that Russia was warned in advance again this time.
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I mean Trump did make a tweet two days in advance. Does that count?
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Barnes93cb wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:53 pm
dubshow wrote: Fri Apr 13, 2018 10:52 pm:fuck: :rage:
Whats the issue?
seriously?

We need to stop playing world police and :gtfo: of this civil war/proxy war.
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Barnes93cb wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:00 am I have a hard time believing that they managed to shoot down 70 of our munitions. I could believe something closer to 10-20.
All the Syrian gear is Soviet era stuff right? No chance. And supposedly the Russian air defenses didn't respond so there's no way they knocked down 70 missiles.
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Gberg2119 wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:28 pm
Barnes93cb wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:00 am I have a hard time believing that they managed to shoot down 70 of our munitions. I could believe something closer to 10-20.
All the Syrian gear is Soviet era stuff right? No chance. And supposedly the Russian air defenses didn't respond so there's no way they knocked down 70 missiles.
Russia has a great IA and PSYOPS game. Im sure they will manage to come out ahead of this.
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Barnes93cb wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:54 pm
Gberg2119 wrote: Sun Apr 15, 2018 1:28 pm

All the Syrian gear is Soviet era stuff right? No chance. And supposedly the Russian air defenses didn't respond so there's no way they knocked down 70 missiles.
Russia has a great IA and PSYOPS game. Im sure they will manage to come out ahead of this.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:37 pm Image
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this is hilarious. Its true.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Sat Apr 14, 2018 5:06 pm
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Democrats are pretty consistent on this topic it seems.

True, but to be fair, they also don't have an entire cable news Network devoted to feeding them propaganda to sway their opinions.
This is true: they have at least 3
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:28 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:37 pm Image
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this is hilarious. Its true.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:29 am
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:28 am

:lolol:

this is hilarious. Its true.
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yeaaaaaaa....

but hey, there is good reason to warn civilians of impending strikes before the infrastructure is turned into dust.

But twitter is no the tool to do it with.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:33 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:29 am

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yeaaaaaaa....

but hey, there is good reason to warn civilians of impending strikes before the infrastructure is turned into dust.

But twitter is no the tool to do it with.
An argument can had either way. It's the hypocrisy that bothers me. Also the tendency to back to party over your country.

I think Trump is right to bomb Asad for using chemical weapons. I think Obama was right too.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:37 am
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:33 am

yeaaaaaaa....

but hey, there is good reason to warn civilians of impending strikes before the infrastructure is turned into dust.

But twitter is no the tool to do it with.
An argument can had either way. It's the hypocrisy that bothers me. Also the tendency to back to party over your country.

I think Trump is right to bomb Asad for using chemical weapons. I think Obama was right too.
See, I'm consistent on the fact that we should just leave the sandbox to sandbox things and not be involved.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:41 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:37 am

An argument can had either way. It's the hypocrisy that bothers me. Also the tendency to back to party over your country.

I think Trump is right to bomb Asad for using chemical weapons. I think Obama was right too.
See, I'm consistent on the fact that we should just leave the sandbox to sandbox things and not be involved.
Fair enough.

Where do you take a stand? At our border?
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:50 am
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:41 am

See, I'm consistent on the fact that we should just leave the sandbox to sandbox things and not be involved.
Fair enough.

Where do you take a stand? At our border?
Good a line as any. Also if our allies are being attacked directly on their soil and ask for assistance, like WW2.

Or you know a really good reason that gets consensus in congress, you know, like how the constitution (IE literal law of the land) is written.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:52 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:50 am

Fair enough.

Where do you take a stand? At our border?
Good a line as any. Also if our allies are being attacked directly on their soil and ask for assistance, like WW2.

Or you know a really good reason that gets consensus in congress, you know, like how the constitution (IE literal law of the land) is written.
I don't have a real strong opinion on it but I feel like if you let things get so bad that it makes it to your door step, it might be too late.

Obama went to Congress to get approval and was denied. They said if he attacked, they would impeach. Now crickets.

From what I understand, the war powers act gves authorization for 30 or 60 days but I'm not sure.
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:50 am
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:41 am

See, I'm consistent on the fact that we should just leave the sandbox to sandbox things and not be involved.
Fair enough.

Where do you take a stand? At our border?
Assad was never a threat to the US. We jumped into a damn civil war. His civil war spawned in the power vacuum we originally created with terrible sandbox policy. We aid'ed one group of "moderate rebels" WHICH WAS THE SAME FUCKING GROUP OF ASSHATS WE WERE FIGHTING JUST A COUNTRY OVER. We have ruined nearly every country in the sandbox and decreased their quality of life.

Then the arms we gave one group show up being used against us in another war.

Endless wars are what I am against. Either take full military action, taken legally with congressional approval, or stay out of other countries problems.
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dubshow wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:31 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:50 am

Fair enough.

Where do you take a stand? At our border?
Assad was never a threat to the US. We jumped into a damn civil war. His civil war spawned in the power vacuum we originally created with terrible sandbox policy. We aid'ed one group of "moderate rebels" WHICH WAS THE SAME FUCKING GROUP OF ASSHATS WE WERE FIGHTING JUST A COUNTRY OVER. We have ruined nearly every country in the sandbox and decreased their quality of life.

Then the arms we gave one group show up being used against us in another war.

Endless wars are what I am against. Either take full military action, taken legally with congressional approval, or stay out of other countries problems.
I understand all that. The use of chemical weapons complicates or more.

Trump said we were pulling out, then Assad uses weapons he knows will draw is back in at a point he doesn't need to use them. Lot of people suggesting that was intentional to keep us involved and depleting blood and treasure
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:03 am
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 9:52 am

Good a line as any. Also if our allies are being attacked directly on their soil and ask for assistance, like WW2.

Or you know a really good reason that gets consensus in congress, you know, like how the constitution (IE literal law of the land) is written.
I don't have a real strong opinion on it but I feel like if you let things get so bad that it makes it to your door step, it might be too late.

Obama went to Congress to get approval and was denied. They said if he attacked, they would impeach. Now crickets.

From what I understand, the war powers act gves authorization for 30 or 60 days but I'm not sure.
and its a bad law and authorization for war needs to come from congress.
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Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:00 am
KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:03 am

I don't have a real strong opinion on it but I feel like if you let things get so bad that it makes it to your door step, it might be too late.

Obama went to Congress to get approval and was denied. They said if he attacked, they would impeach. Now crickets.

From what I understand, the war powers act gves authorization for 30 or 60 days but I'm not sure.
and its a bad law and authorization for war needs to come from congress.
In this day and age Congress could act in 1 day if necessary. No need for 60 day time frame
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KYGTIGuy wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:03 am
Big Brain Bradley wrote: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:00 am

and its a bad law and authorization for war needs to come from congress.
In this day and age Congress could act in 1 day if necessary. No need for 60 day time frame
exactly.
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