Jeeponomics 101: Eternal tirekicking for the gutless Jeep

[wap]

Fuck man, Dave must be right about you drinking early. I'm agreeing with you that it's better/easier to own a car here, and I also said there are great roads here. But as was said, and is demonstrably true, is that DRIVING there, regardless of how much hp you can afford, is a better experience because of the fact that you're surrounded by generally better drivers, better maintained roads, and pragmatic s. And you can still legally take an 80hp car up to higher legal speeds there than you can here.

Why can't I just love it more here

You can love wherever you want but that doesn't mean that aren't . As would say feelings =/=

[wap]

Why can't I just love it more here

You can, and you're wrong.

[D Griff]

Fuck man, Dave must be right about you drinking early. I'm agreeing with you that it's better/easier to own a car here, and I also said there are great roads here. But as was said, and is demonstrably true, is that DRIVING there, regardless of how much hp you can afford, is a better experience because of the fact that you're surrounded by generally better drivers, better maintained roads, and pragmatic s. And you can still legally take an 80hp car up to higher legal speeds there than you can here.

Why can't I just love it more here

I agree . I drove in England a couple of years ago. Everyone talks about the great English Country Roads, but everything had low limits with speed cams, lanes were narrow and had trees hanging in them, roundabouts were super congested...

Costa Rica had beautiful roads and was more civilized than I expected, but then out of nowhere the pavement would just disappear, or a Detroit spec pothole would come up. We had a blowout our first night.

Canada's roads are OK but limits are lower than the states.

Mexico is just shit to drive in.

I haven't driven in Germany, but I've driven a ton of the US and I think it's the best. I've been 140 in a Challenger in Wyoming with no worries in the world. Many of us have hooned the Dragon at asinine speed. It's pretty great.

[4zilch]

Why can't I just love it more here

You can, and you're wrong.

This is DFD, that's how it works.

Sig updated. Well said.

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[goIftdibrad]

Why can't I just love it more here

Mexico is just shit to drive in unless offroading is your thing

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[Apex]

You can, and you're wrong.

This is DFD, that's how it works.

Sig updated. Well said.

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[Johnny_P]

Fuck man, Dave must be right about you drinking early. I'm agreeing with you that it's better/easier to own a car here, and I also said there are great roads here. But as was said, and is demonstrably true, is that DRIVING there, regardless of how much hp you can afford, is a better experience because of the fact that you're surrounded by generally better drivers, better maintained roads, and pragmatic s. And you can still legally take an 80hp car up to higher legal speeds there than you can here.

Why can't I just love it more here

You gotta that you live in a area that's loaded with some of the best driving roads on the planet. Take a trip to New England some time

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Why can't I just love it more here

You gotta that you live in a area that's loaded with some of the best driving roads on the planet. Take a trip to New England some time

The midwest is far worse. At least you have some twisties in New England.

[D Griff]

You gotta that you live in a area that's loaded with some of the best driving roads on the planet. Take a trip to New England some time

The midwest is far worse. At least you have some twisties in New England.

I think New England is actually pretty decent driving.

Texass is the worst.

[Johnny_P]

You gotta that you live in a area that's loaded with some of the best driving roads on the planet. Take a trip to New England some time

The midwest is far worse. At least you have some twisties in New England.

Tru

Oklahoma was "I wanna kill myself" levels of boring.

[max225]

They are all still part of one country that I call home. Oregon and Washington has some fun roads, Nevada had epic off road areas. But yes all of it is fake news. Kraut Central or bust

[ChrisoftheNorth]

They are all still part of one country that I call home. Oregon and Washington has some fun roads, Nevada had epic off road areas. But yes all of it is fake news. Kraut Central or bust

OFF roading in the USA is rivaled by nobody. We have the most epic offroading of any country. No question about that.

Yet, I'm the only one that off roads on here...

On-roading, Germany is so far superior to 90% of this country.

[Johnny_P]

They are all still part of one country that I call home. Oregon and Washington has some fun roads, Nevada had epic off road areas. But yes all of it is fake news. Kraut Central or bust

OFF roading in the USA is rivaled by nobody. We have the most epic offroading of any country. No question about that.

Yet, I'm the only one that off roads on here...

On-roading, Germany is so far superior to 90% of this country.

I guess? Lots of good off roading around the world. Iceland, Australia, the entire continent of Africa come to mind. We have every type of terrain though which other countries can't say.

We do have good fun roads here too. Cali canyons, the Dragon, lots of fun shit in somewhat remote areas. Thing is many of the good to drive roads in the US are in terrible physical shape and littered with derps that are too busy texting. And the drive to get to many of them is totally barf worthy. My observation of Germany was the roads were kept better and drivers were far more attentive. I also noticed Ireland was decent to drive in, although roads were not in greatest shape the drivers were actually really good and it was rare that you'd get stuck behind someone who was a tard.

[Johnny_P]

The midwest is far worse. At least you have some twisties in New England.

I think New England is actually pretty decent driving.

Texass is the worst.

Where in Texas? There are good roads in the hill country but none near the cities.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

OFF roading in the USA is rivaled by nobody. We have the most epic offroading of any country. No question about that.

Yet, I'm the only one that off roads on here...

On-roading, Germany is so far superior to 90% of this country.

I guess? Lots of good off roading around the world. Iceland, Australia, the entire continent of Africa come to mind. We have every type of terrain though which other countries can't say.

We do have good fun roads here too. Cali canyons, the Dragon, lots of fun shit in somewhat remote areas. Thing is many of the good to drive roads in the US are in terrible physical shape and littered with derps that are too busy texting. And the drive to get to many of them is totally barf worthy. My observation of Germany was the roads were kept better and drivers were far more attentive. I also noticed Ireland was decent to drive in, although roads were not in greatest shape the drivers were actually really good and it was rare that you'd get stuck behind someone who was a tard.

It's the diversity in terrain that makes it for me. Legit 5/7 here.

Roads are only good if you live near them, otherwise

When I was in SoCal, I drove the canyon roads all the time when I lived by them. Then I moved to Orange county, and it was an hour and a half sitting in traffic just to get to a halfway decent road. They might as well not have been there, I could never take advantage.

[D Griff]

I think New England is actually pretty decent driving.

Texass is the worst.

Where in Texas? There are good roads in the hill country but none near the cities.

I've driven in a lot of areas, really all of the cities and the interstates between them. I'm sure there are lots of cool back roads in the western part, but in the cities it's big, flat, straight, and full of in .

[D Griff]

I'm thinking of Turoing a lifted JK in a few weeks, back to the thing.

Really, it will be terrible for what I'm doing, but I'm intrigued to see what living with one for a couple of days is like.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

I'm thinking of Turoing a lifted JK in a few weeks, back to the thing.

Really, it will be terrible for what I'm doing, but I'm intrigued to see what living with one for a couple of days is like.

[max225]

I'm thinking of Turoing a lifted JK in a few weeks, back to the thing.

Really, it will be terrible for what I'm doing, but I'm intrigued to see what living with one for a couple of days is like.

Absolute garbage but it is a Jeep thing breh.

[dubshow]

So Dave is waxer elitist driving aristocracy piloting his dual M2 series unimpeded by peasants and Max is a man of the people as he dodges Abuelita at 100 mph in his M3 on the way to lake Tahoe with his AZN.

Yet BOTH are technically Dbag elitist Roundel Oberleutnants.

The social hierarchy and politics of this forum are challenging at times.

[dubshow]

.1 increase in skidpad, 30 foot reduction in stopping distance, both largely due to tires. That's significant. 90% of Wranglers never go off road we both know this so why not equip them with CUV type tires and make them drive better as a result? The JK's 209 foot 70-0 has got to be the worst braking performance of any modern automobile.

The braking performance is mainly due to caliper size bump for the Sahara and rubicon’s. The skid pad is mall tires however I am not sure what last one they tested. They called it a jku, but didn’t mention submodel.

a fucking skidpad test in a god damn jeep wrangler is fucking irrelevant.

[dubshow]

They are all still part of one country that I call home. Oregon and Washington has some fun roads, Nevada had epic off road areas. But yes all of it is fake news. Kraut Central or bust

OFF roading in the USA is rivaled by nobody. We have the most epic offroading of any country. No question about that.

Yet, I'm the only one that off roads on here...

On-roading, Germany is so far superior to 90% of this country.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

OFF roading in the USA is rivaled by nobody. We have the most epic offroading of any country. No question about that.

Yet, I'm the only one that off roads on here...

On-roading, Germany is so far superior to 90% of this country.

[max225]

They are all still part of one country that I call home. Oregon and Washington has some fun roads, Nevada had epic off road areas. But yes all of it is fake news. Kraut Central or bust

OFF roading in the USA is rivaled by nobody. We have the most epic offroading of any country. No question about that.

Yet, I'm the only one that off roads on here...

On-roading, Germany is so far superior to 90% of this country.

Yea, cobblestone streets, city centers that ban cars. Any a plethora of Europes worst vehicles. On road driving is an absolute joy.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

OFF roading in the USA is rivaled by nobody. We have the most epic offroading of any country. No question about that.

Yet, I'm the only one that off roads on here...

On-roading, Germany is so far superior to 90% of this country.

Yea, cobblestone streets, city centers that ban cars. Any a plethora of Europes worst vehicles. On road driving is an absolute joy.

Better than sitting in traffic constantly because s can't be off facespace long enough to deal with the hassles of operating a motor vehicle.

I also drove in Frankfurt, Freiburg, Munich, Nuremburg (in the city center), and everywhere in between without driving on one cobble stone street. Other than being woefully slow, my rental Polo was a great little car.