True, but once she's cruising, the ride is the smoothest you'll ever feel.
List of under-tired "performance/sports" cars :triggered:
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Desertbreh wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:46 pmI am amused that you will not let this go. Maybe I should try a 325 square setup on the GS?maxtdi wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:09 pm
If sporty driving is your thing bear in mind the OEM purposefully FUCKED you with these cars to upsell you to the next level up. JohnnyP gave me the inspiration for this thread.
First and foremost I nominate my own
BMW 335i M sport 225 front 255 rear
BMW 235i M sport 225 front 245 rear (dafuq) even worse than mine
BMW 135is 215 front 245 rear
BMW M3 (E46) 225 front 255 rear
BMW Z4 35is 225 front 245 rear
Audi S4 245s all around (same as a 500lb lighter golf R)
Audi S3 225s all around
Lexus RC350 F sport 235 up front
Lexus IS350 F sport 225 up front
Mercedes C43 amg 225 front 245 rear
Dodge Charger/Challenger R/T 245 all around
Chrysler 300S V8 245 all around
Ford Mustang GT base 235s all around
Alfa Giulia Quadrafuglio 245s front and 285 rear
Chevy SS 245s up front and 275 rear
https://www.edmunds.com/ford/mustang/20 ... money.html
This article perfectly onlines how much decent tires are WORTH... around turns.
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Let me know if I missed any
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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I said anything except the viper. BUT YES....Johnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:29 pmHellcats are under tired af. 707 hp on a 275 tire.NeonJonny wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:53 pm Any fast dodge has ever sold besides the viper, really. The daytona, srt4, neon acr, anyone?
Width isnt everything. Height is just as important. Not pointless 19s or 20s. an actual aspect ratio.
I agree with the thread but manufacturers need to draw a line somewhere. 90% of people buy aftermarket wheels anyway? From what you all tell me i wouldn't want bmw wheels anyway!
Yes cars get heavier. Wider tires are only a bandaid for that.
driving fat tires in the rain is scary. Buy all seasons? No, what's the point if a summer tire will hand an all season its ass even if the all season is Xmm wider?
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A 315 isn't fat on a 4500 lb behemoth. That's like a 210 on a regular 3000 lb car. A stock FRS has less hydroplaning resistance than a Hellcat on 315s.
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Pretty sure I'm going to run 295's square on
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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3,2XX lbs, should have an acceptable tire to weight ratio.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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There was a dude on the gold chainz forum that claimed his car was "undrivable" with 295's up front.
Desertbreh wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:40 pm My guess would be that Chris took some time off because he has read the dialogue on this page 1,345 times and decided to spend some of his free time doing something besides beating a horse to death.
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The speed at which a tire hydroplanes is a function of water depth, vehicle speed, vehicle weight, tire width, tread depth and tread design. It depends on how much water has to be removed, how much weight is pressing down on the tires and how efficient the tread design is at evacuating water. While deeper water, higher speeds, lighter vehicles, wider tires, less tread depth and less efficient tread designs will cause tires to hydroplane at lower speeds; all tires will be forced to hydroplane at some speed.
As a rule, tread design affects hydroplaning resistance at high speeds and in deep water. Tread compound affects wet traction at lower speeds or in shallow water.
https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/te ... ?techid=16
As a rule, tread design affects hydroplaning resistance at high speeds and in deep water. Tread compound affects wet traction at lower speeds or in shallow water.
https://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/te ... ?techid=16
dyslexic wrote:DO YOU FEEL FEAR
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FWIW I'm firmly in the camp that 275 square (or even less, really) is perfect on the for street use. The 275 all seasons offer a great amount of fun and cost $500 a set.
What's even more crazy is that you can get an all-season tire on the Hellcat. 707hp on a 275 rear all-season isJohnny_P wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:29 pmHellcats are under tired af. 707 hp on a 275 tire.NeonJonny wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:53 pm Any fast dodge has ever sold besides the viper, really. The daytona, srt4, neon acr, anyone?
Width isnt everything. Height is just as important. Not pointless 19s or 20s. an actual aspect ratio.
I agree with the thread but manufacturers need to draw a line somewhere. 90% of people buy aftermarket wheels anyway? From what you all tell me i wouldn't want bmw wheels anyway!
Yes cars get heavier. Wider tires are only a bandaid for that.
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275 Re-71R's are a riot.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:55 pm
FWIW I'm firmly in the camp that 275 square (or even less, really) is perfect on the for street use. The 275 all seasons offer a great amount of fun and cost $500 a set.
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Depends on your tolerance and willingness to light money on fire. The ballz seasons keep corner speeds kinda sorta reasonable-ish and are cheap enough that there is no reason not to light them up at will.Melon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:56 pm275 Re-71R's are a riot.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:55 pm
FWIW I'm firmly in the camp that 275 square (or even less, really) is perfect on the for street use. The 275 all seasons offer a great amount of fun and cost $500 a set.
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I need dis for my car handling will be with all that downforce from the wing on those sticky tarsMelon wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:56 pm275 Re-71R's are a riot.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:55 pm
FWIW I'm firmly in the camp that 275 square (or even less, really) is perfect on the for street use. The 275 all seasons offer a great amount of fun and cost $500 a set.
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Talking about AutoX primarily, but I never knew a cop to give a ticket for pulling too many G's in the corner.troyguitar wrote: ↑Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:05 pmDepends on your tolerance and willingness to light money on fire. The ballz seasons keep corner speeds kinda sorta reasonable-ish and are cheap enough that there is no reason not to light them up at will.
The DW's were damn good on the road too, but when the car is pushed, having a square set-up to dial out the understeer, and grippy tires to be able to accelerate through the turns and WOT upon exit is just