Tire Kicking By Griff

[Irish]

I know I know...... but practically brand new, in your neck of the woods and dat blue.....



https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KmvY4b ... gen-golf-r

[max225]

I know I know...... but practically brand new, in your neck of the woods and dat blue.....



https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KmvY4b ... gen-golf-r

I think the 2018+ update is well worth it. The 2016 felt a generation older than the mk 7.5

[coogles]

I know I know...... but practically brand new, in your neck of the woods and dat blue.....

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/KmvY4b ... gen-golf-r

Stupid Driver Assistance Package. That sensor in the lower grill opening is terribad.

2016 Golf R was the end of an era, when you could get a Golf R without all of the safety bullshit like front assist, BSM, adaptive cruise and the like. Too bad that isn't one.

[D Griff]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

[max225]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

Do you want a JCW cooper with 33k miles and the worlds worst tranny?

[CaleDeRoo]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

Funny that's exactly was Z4 Ms cost. There's a bloo one in Raleigh

[Melon]

Is your Mini manual or Auto (Or DCT, not sure what the auto options are)?

[Tar]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

A large part of me believes that are you on the front. Glad you're a good sport about it!

[coogles]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

Hm. Buying a used car now at the very top of the market and selling in 1-2 years seems to me to be a surefire way to lose your shirt on depreciation, especially with regard to percentage of the purchase price. I genuinely think you'd be better off buying a new Hype R or STi at MSRP than paying $20k for a used whatever right now even in straight dollar terms. That $20k thing will be worth $12k in two years once the supply chain issues are sorted out with regard to new cars.

I get not wanting to buy expensive cars back to back, though. Car payments blow and I'm kind of going down the same decision path on the front. Used Odysseys don't seem like they've had their prices inflate that much, and I do plan to keep it a long time, but if it's $22k for a 6 year old car with 75k miles, versus $37k for a brand new one, to me a $15k difference over 6 years seems like a reasonable amount to spend, especially considering it will need nothing but oil changes and tires over those first 6 years, and the older car will need a timing belt and who knows what else.

[D Griff]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

A large part of me believes that are you on the front. Glad you're a good sport about it!

I think it's like 50/50 but also no VW love? they fit my needs really well but I just don't feel a spark there. It is like the arranged marriage of cars

[D Griff]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

A large part of me believes that are you on the front. Glad you're a good sport about it!

I think it's like 50/50 but also no VW love? they fit my needs really well but I just don't feel a spark there. It is like the arranged marriage of cars

[D Griff]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

Funny that's exactly was Z4 Ms cost. There's a bloo one in Raleigh

Naaaahhhh, that is more headache than the

[Apex]

Is your Mini manual or Auto (Or DCT, not sure what the auto options are)?

Max has the auto, it’s a really damn good tranny.

[D Griff]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

Hm. Buying a used car now at the very top of the market and selling in 1-2 years seems to me to be a surefire way to lose your shirt on depreciation, especially with regard to percentage of the purchase price. I genuinely think you'd be better off buying a new Hype R or STi at MSRP than paying $20k for a used whatever right now even in straight dollar terms. That $20k thing will be worth $12k in two years once the supply chain issues are sorted out with regard to new cars.

I get not wanting to buy expensive cars back to back, though. Car payments blow and I'm kind of going down the same decision path on the front. Used Odysseys don't seem like they've had their prices inflate that much, and I do plan to keep it a long time, but if it's $22k for a 6 year old car with 75k miles, versus $37k for a brand new one, to me a $15k difference over 6 years seems like a reasonable amount to spend, especially considering it will need nothing but oil changes and tires over those first 6 years, and the older car will need a timing belt and who knows what else.

Oh dude, you're 100% correct. Want to fly out here and try to explain that to my wife? I have literally presented that argument at least 10 times at this point.

At least I will have the satisfaction of the "I told you so" moment?

[coogles]

I think it's like 50/50 but also no VW love? they fit my needs really well but I just don't feel a spark there. It is like the arranged marriage of cars

You've driven a PP-equipped MK7, ya?

[D Griff]

So as an update... I talked things over with last night. Basically, my budget is $20K

She wants to pay off the before buying something else expensive, doesn't want to buy two $40K cars a year apart, etc. I pointed out various bits about depreciation, the fact that we could either pay off the now or buy a $40K car in cash, etc. and she's just not really on board. In her defense, I did want the and was onboard with the $40K at that time. We pretty much came to the agreement that I will purchase a less expensive car now, we will pay off the over the next 1-2 years and I will then at that time. She is basically at the suggestion that I would keep a Hype R for 5+ years, so she doesn't want to wind up with me something more expensive in short order and I guess wants to keep a stronger cash position than I care about.

Kind of but

So a Golf R isn't an option and I just don't think I want a Golf,

It is clear that the roots are still strong at this place as I have continually said I don't want one and been continually suggested one

GTIs used are also not that cheap anymore.

$20K gets you very little car in 2021.

Do you want a JCW cooper with 33k miles and the worlds worst tranny?

Naaahhhh no auto for me.

[D Griff]

I think it's like 50/50 but also no VW love? they fit my needs really well but I just don't feel a spark there. It is like the arranged marriage of cars

You've driven a PP-equipped MK7, ya?

Honestly , I've driven two MK7s, I don't know the specs.

FWIW it's not that I don't think they're good, they're just not really my thing. Like, I drove the Si and GTI back to back in 2018, the GTI was clearly the quicker car in basically every way but I just liked the Si more.

[Tar]

A large part of me believes that are you on the front. Glad you're a good sport about it!

I think it's like 50/50 but also no VW love? they fit my needs really well but I just don't feel a spark there. It is like the arranged marriage of cars

Haha! 100% man, they are awesome cars but a totally different animal from the type fun vehicle. They are practical, with a touch of fun, a wallop of superior interior, but after owning a few gens myself, can say that they aren't exactly "special" feeling.

At least you guys have a budget in mind, is $20k the all-in cost, or loan cost after spending the cash?

[coogles]

You've driven a PP-equipped MK7, ya?

Honestly , I've driven two MK7s, I don't know the specs.

FWIW it's not that I don't think they're good, they're just not really my thing. Like, I drove the Si and GTI back to back in 2018, the GTI was clearly the quicker car in basically every way but I just liked the Si more.

And that's all that matters. I love my MK7, but yeah I get they're not the car for everybody.

[D Griff]

I think it's like 50/50 but also no VW love? they fit my needs really well but I just don't feel a spark there. It is like the arranged marriage of cars

Haha! 100% man, they are awesome cars but a totally different animal from the type fun vehicle. They are practical, with a touch of fun, a wallop of superior interior, but after owning a few gens myself, can say that they aren't exactly "special" feeling.

At least you guys have a budget in mind, is $20k the all-in cost, or loan cost after spending the cash?

$20K all in, so basically $9k cash on top of the

If I could do $20K cash on top of it, I'd probably buy that red STI for $28K and call it.

I should buy something dumb just to be a

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Just keep the for the rest of the year. The market is jacked, and I really think buying any vehicle right now should be an absolute last resort. What's the rush?

You've said the clutch is fine when you're gentle on it, take a break from and focus on more environmentally friendly activities for the summer. might even be more understanding in a year. It's one damned year. I'm spending it in a vehicle I pretty much despise, so I'm focusing on other things.

[coogles]

$20K all in, so basically $9k cash on top of the

If I could do $20K cash on top of it, I'd probably buy that red STI for $28K and call it.

I should buy something dumb just to be a

If the deal really is 1-2 years, I might try to buy something that's purely an appliance that hasn't really shot up in value. exactly what that would be, but probably nothing enthusaist-spec and nothing in crossover or land. Or at the very least communicate that with and guilt her into letting you get the Hype R.

[D Griff]

Just keep the for the rest of the year. The market is jacked, and I really think buying any vehicle right now should be an absolute last resort. What's the rush?

You've said the clutch is fine when you're gentle on it, take a break from and focus on more environmentally friendly activities for the summer. might even be more understanding in a year. It's one damned year. I'm spending it in a vehicle I pretty much despise, so I'm focusing on other things.

It's more like I don't really want to the shit that is with the

I suppose I could just continue driving it NFG, but I just don't really want to, I also doubt I'll ever see an opportunity to get $11K for it again either.

I have had this thing for seven years, I think I've done my time, I made it longer than anyone else.

[ChrisoftheNorth]

Just keep the for the rest of the year. The market is jacked, and I really think buying any vehicle right now should be an absolute last resort. What's the rush?

You've said the clutch is fine when you're gentle on it, take a break from and focus on more environmentally friendly activities for the summer. might even be more understanding in a year. It's one damned year. I'm spending it in a vehicle I pretty much despise, so I'm focusing on other things.

It's more like I don't really want to the shit that is with the

I suppose I could just continue driving it NFG, but I just don't really want to, I also doubt I'll ever see an opportunity to get $11K for it again either.

I have had this thing for seven years, I think I've done my time, I made it longer than anyone else.

You might get a few grand more than it's worth but you'll lose your ass on whatever you buy for $20k. The $20k pricepoint seems to be the battleground. No new cars are in that point, and everything there now used to be worth $10-$15k. Unless you find something you love and hold onto (doubtful), this just doesn't make any sense. Patience is key in this market, but whatever.

You seem dead set on lighting money on fire, so I vote MINI all day. You can still get a NICE modern example in your price point. I'll just be worth half of what you pay for it in a year.

[Apex]

Buy the Type R and tell the wife it’s a $20k Civic.
All rook same.